Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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maclaw21 said:
Yesterday I was at an Apple Store for an issue with my iPhone. The Genius Bar guy said that a colleague just got back from a 6-month career immersion thing at Apple in Cupertino and said he was under an NDA but he said that everyone is going to be "really, really happy" with the new MBPs.
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Not if MagSafe is gone I wont :(
 
KirekkusuPT said:
You are not getting the full picture here. Clock speed isn't the only thing that affects your computers speed. Ram quantity, ram speed, cpu clock speed, cpu IPC, architecture, and so on and so forth contribute to the overall performance.

0.1Ghz will not be noticable, not when the architecture is the same, the IPC is the same, the ram is the same. On a 4K video export, what diference would it make? Instead of taking 1 minute and 52 seconds to render, it would take 1 minute and 50 seconds to render. Is that 2 seconds a 200$ worth upgrade?

Also, the more clock speed you have, the more heat you have. The more heat you have, the more the fans will go up. If they can't go higher, the cpu will automaticaly clock down until temperatures are within reasonable values. In a desktop, this rarely happens (this "phenomenon" is known as throttling), but on a laptop, specialy a thin one like the Mac, this happens a lot.

That's why the other user told you that the 2.7Ghz Haswell cpu wasn't worth compared to the 2.5 Ghz one, because due to throttling both would go down and end up performing the same.

Skylakes produce less heat and thus throttle less, but still a 0.1 Ghz upgrade is not worth. Consider investing your money in more RAM or a dGPU if you are not alreaddy thinking on that.

Personaly I indend to code on my laptop. Use virtual machines. And game ocasionaly. So whatever succeeds the current 15'' with 512 gb of storage, 16 of ram, and a dGPU, I will buy. If I have spare money, I will put it on RAM, not cpu.
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I greatly appreciate you sharing your knowledge, but perhaps my post that you were replying to was misleading because I'm with you on all of these points. I don't think it will be worth it either and that was the statement I was making when I said that someone needed to show me it was actually worth it before I would ever pull out the additional $200 for that particular upgrade. Sometimes other factors come into consideration for an upgrade, but on the merits of the clock speed alone, it is definitely not worth it.

As for RAM and dGPU, I'm absolutely max'ing those out. Actually, better put, if Apple does not offer 32 GB of RAM as an option, I will not buy one.

So I'm with ya on all accounts and couldn't agree more!
 
Any news on how much these badboys are going to weigh? Hopefully soon we start getting the packaging leaks which confirm the specs, dimensions and weight.
 
Mkondrak said:
I know this is off topic but since your a full time photographer, I have to ask. when do you think will the iphone and other smartphones get 60fps 4K video recording? does it require a lot of more processing power to do something like that? I know the footage from an iPhone won't be comparable to a DSLR.
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It will be twice the data to process, but processing power (for the recording of the video) is not as much of a challenge as is space to store it on the phone. It eats up a lot of room.

I know you are already aware that the footage doesn't compare to a DSLR, but as a side note, the storage requirements for the video I'm occasionally shooting are huge. I use a Canon 1D X Mark II and when filming in 4K 60 fps it requires approximately 5.7 GBs of space for each minute of video. So I am only shooting/keeping clips that are very worthwhile and any extra fluff gets the razor pretty quickly. BTW, you should see the quality on a 5K iMac. It is absolutely stunning!

Obviously, the storage requirements for iPhone video are less, but the same challenges still apply. Apple could easily add 4K 60 FPS as early as the next iPhone, but folks are going to need a lot of storage room.
 
Lollo said:
Seems that Ming Chi Kuo has added a new mag safe to MBP features.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/22/kuo-october-2016-mac-predictions/

However, few questions:

· how long will it be the keynote? I'll finish working just when it starts and I hope I won't lose to much time coming back home...
· is there a way to watch it on Android?
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As long as you can get home in 20 minutes, you'll probably be fine. Before they get to MacBook Pros they'll probably cover Apple Store updates, iPhone sales, AirPod release details, etc. If they actually announce an all-new Mac lineup they might skip the company updates, but the MBP will be the highlight and they'll save it for last.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5ma...wwdc-apple-windows-android/amp/?client=safari
 
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Xhakaology said:
How many of you with AppleCare have had to use it? Wondering whether to get it or not
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That's a tough call and is a very personal decision.

I never ever buy extended warranties, except for my iMac and MBP. For these two particular items, I feel that the extra protection is worth it, especially since I pour so much money into these two items. I also appreciate the speed and ease of getting them replaced is something were to go wrong. Apple's replacements are blazing fast and that gives me peace of mind since I rely on these machines for my job.

With that being said though, there are just as many good arguments as to why it is probably a waste of money...and those reasons are right too. The decision really is based on your comfort level and available funds.
 
Xhakaology said:
How many of you with AppleCare have had to use it? Wondering whether to get it or not
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I did once, to replace the motherboard that failed (it was near the end of the 3 years). Pretty glad I did because the cost on the invoice for the part was around 500 euros ... I also had to change my charger twice because the cord was torn, from what i understand normally Apple exchange it one times only for free but Apple Care (tacitly) helped me have a second one free of charge.
Also, if you are one of these people that don't keep their equipment very long in case of resale it sells to a higher price and more easily.
 
powertoold said:
I think 3.94 pounds for the 15".
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Not bad, roughly 200g lighter than the current model. Any news on the 13"?

If it follows the same law as the 15", then we could see a 13" weighing around 1.38KG, still a bit more I'd hoped for as I'm hoping it's lighter than the current 13" Air.

One can dream....
 
ShadovvMoon said:
I hope that this new rMBP is like the rMB but with the 4 ports depicted and significantly better performance :D I don't care about needing adaptors since they're pretty lightweight and I already need adaptors for my current rMB. The lack of MagSafe is a bit of a bummer but maybe it's still included (invisible port or wireless charging?)

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Notice the large space in the photo where the magsafe used to be? It seems odd that the ports on one side go almost up to the hinge whereas the other side doesn't. I recon there is an invisible MagSafe...
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I'm expecting a smart connector of sorts.
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TechZeke said:
So basically:
High end 2011 27" iMac or greater
2012 15" MacBook Pro r/non-r Or High end Late 2012 21.5" iMac
2013-2015 base 15" rMBP

Boy, does gaming on Mac look bleak. You need a $1500-$2000 Mac just get by on a new Civ game.
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Wreckus said:
Unless you get the 15 inch with the dGPU option (hopefully there is one), you won't be able to.

On a side note civ 6 needs a min 6gb of RAM for mac. (https://www.aspyr.com/games/sid-meier-s-civilization-vi)
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Westbrook0 said:
So how powerful is the typical dual core on past Macbook Pros? I ask since there are a few games that I'd like to play (nothing too CPU or GPU intensive) like Civ 6. I just hope it can handle it.
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Cougarcat said:
Might have to play in windows. The Mac version "requires" a quad core.
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Hey Good News Everyone!!
I have been playing Civilization 6 on my desktop PC and loving it.
And just for complete ***** and gigs I decided to install it on my old 2013 13" MBP
So that's Haswell Dual-core - intel graphics.

And it just played a full game of Civ 6 flawlessly, it was definitely and enjoyable experience. I did not have fraps running but did not notice any loss in framerates or slow wait times. I was on low settings of course. I am going to try a game on medium settings now. I'll report back later with actual frame-rates by different settings.

This is bodes really well for the performance of the skylake Macbooks Pros for Civ 6. The Broadwell iGPU was significantly faster than the haswell iGPU. And the skylake iGPU was 60-70% faster than the broadwell iGPU, and in some games 100% faster.

So the 13" 2016 MBP will be a great laptop for playing Civ 6 on medium and maybe even high settings.

And then of course those getting the 15", I am sure will be able to play Civ 6 at high or even very high/ultra settings.
But we'll see! I will be buying the 15" right away and then testing out Civ.
 
maclaw21 said:
Yesterday I was at an Apple Store for an issue with my iPhone. The Genius Bar guy said that a colleague just got back from a 6-month career immersion thing at Apple in Cupertino and said he was under an NDA but he said that everyone is going to be "really, really happy" with the new MBPs.
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That sounds sick! Hopefully it really does make us all "really, really happy".

It also seems like everyone's Apple Store workers are so chill and informative and resourceful, and are OK with giving out some information like this. The Apple Store where I live, they have no clue what they're talking about and are kinda cold and unfriendly...
 
Bryan Bowler said:
That's a tough call and is a very personal decision.

I never ever buy extended warranties, except for my iMac and MBP. For these two particular items, I feel that the extra protection is worth it, especially since I pour so much money into these two items. I also appreciate the speed and ease of getting them replaced is something were to go wrong. Apple's replacements are blazing fast and that gives me peace of mind since I rely on these machines for my job.

With that being said though, there are just as many good arguments as to why it is probably a waste of money...and those reasons are right too. The decision really is based on your comfort level and available funds.
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I mean i can see why people get it but if I get 1 year warranty in the UK anyway is there any restriction to getting Apple Care once my 1 year is nearly up?
 
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Xhakaology said:
I mean i can see why people get it but if I get 1 year warranty in the UK anyway is there any restriction to getting Apple Care once my 1 year is nearly up?
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That's actually the smartest way to do it. (Buying AppleCare 360 days after you placed your order.)

I'm based in the U.S., so forgive me if I'm not up to speed on this, but doesn't Europe have some kind of mandatory warranty extension period for consumer protection? Perhaps our European friends can chime in on this...
 
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