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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Almost correct. In the whole EU the burden of proof shifts after the 6th month. But you don't have to proof it was defect when you received it. You have to proof it's defect due to a manufacturing failure. For example: your Macbook is 1,5 years old, and suddenly your RAM memory is not working anymore. You didn't throw a cup of coffee over it or something. It just stopped working. They will repair this for free, because they have to according to the European law.
One thing to keep in mind: the first year warranty is from Apple AND the retailer. The second year warranty is only from the retailer. So, if you want two years warranty from Apple itself, buy your Macbook at an official Apple store.
That's another discovery. I thought that it was the same in all EU. In Italy the 2 mandatory years are divided into a first year guaranteed by the producer and a second one from the retailer, so if you buy from Apple Store you should technically have 2 years from Apple.
And that's the problem, because you should anyhow have technical repairs granted, whether you have Apple Care or not, but seems that reality is slightly different and you have to "fight" to receive support without their expensive optional warranty. That's why I think that is better to avoid any problem and get AC, also if it should be "useless".
I think that they will actually retain their current battery life, but who knows- The thinness of the leaked chassis we have seen worries me.
http://ark.intel.com/compare/93341,93340,93336
Compare all 3 models and you will notice that the cache size differs. So I think I go for the i7-6870HQ , because 100 Mhz aren't noticeable. Back to your question : You won't notice the 2 mb cache either , but if you ask me go for the i7-6870HQ, too.
Yes, you're right. I got that wrong.
It's funny that you bring up the example of defective RAM, though. I had a laptop a few years back that had defective RAM after about 1.5 years (manufacturer's warranty covered 1 year). I sent it in and they didn't repair it, because they claimed that I dropped the laptop and that this caused the defect (I did not). It wasn't a big deal, because the RAM wasn't soledered on, so I could just put in a new DIMM for a few bucks and that's it, but you'll have to prove that it's actually a manufacturing failure, which can be hard, because the retailer can claim that you "abused" the product.
I don't know how accomodating Apple is when you bought it directly from Apple, but buying it from another retailer might cause problems after the first year.
Locally running HEVC is not a big deal, streaming is where the computer heats up, mine gets really hot.
I think you don't have to prove anything if you bought your laptop after March 18 2016 because the law changed (at least in France). This website ( https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F11094 ) says it's to the seller to prove that the defect appeared AFTER you bought the laptop.
EDIT: English version : https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F11094&edit-text=&act=url
And the relevant part : "
If you notice a lack of conformity within 2 years of purchase, the product is covered by the warranty. This fault is considered from before purchasing the device. You do not have to provide any evidence on the default appearance date. If the seller contests the application of the guarantee and considers that the error occurred after the purchase, it is for him to prove it. You have 2 years after purchasing the property to play this guarantee."
will there ever be a post made from a skyline MBP in this thread or will we all just take our brand new skyline MBP's and forget about this thread and post in the "waiting for kaby lake" thread? It feels like abandoning your pet.............
Not a big deal. At least not for the HDMI 2.0 thing.
We will probably have no HDMI port anyway and USB 3.1 / TB3 can handle 4k@60Hz.
This makes me seriously consoder the dGPU version as the only option for me. At some point I was ready to go with iGPU only (I have had too MBPs die with Nvidias overheating GPUs and Apple covered neither of them). I guess I'll just get AC and hope that it will die in the first three years if its going to.
I really hope that you're right... If not, then we know that apple give a peace of sh*t on their Mac customers :'(
This is not an European law. Apparently French consumers have an extra warranty law. Enjoy it ;-)
But it's not very cool if you spend 2.000€/$ on a notebook that can't run the newest sh*t without get crazy fan and consum the whole battery because the cpu work at 80% or something like that... I really hope that Apple built the Kabylake in the 13''...
Oh, I though this was the name of the European warranty in France. Because when you look at the website, the way the warranty applied before March 18 2016 was as you said. Sorry for the misunderstanding then
True on a Windows system as well. Playing locally isn't a big deal. Streaming it over the network to an ethernet connected port over a local service like Plex requires on the fly transcoding. Thankfully Plex does this rather well compared to the clunky XBMC/Kodi.
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I think Australia has similar consumer laws? Or some of the major states.Oh, I though this was the name of the European warranty in France. Because when you look at the website, the way the warranty applied before March 18 2016 was as you said. Sorry for the misunderstanding then
it should be obvious that everyone has to present his shiny new rMBP to us with some pics and stuff.. that's how it works when you're in a family!
Hey all, I have been watching this thread for quite some time, so when I made a trip to Best Buy the other day, I asked an employee about the new MBPs. He said that he was under an NDA but he did tell me a few things.
1. He had a hands-on demo of one in around March
2. When asked about ports he seemed to affirm that they were most, if not all usb-c
3. when asked about the dGPU, he said that at the time that he used it the dGPU had not been announced
4. He said that the BTO options were going to be expanded
5. He said that we would be pretty happy with what they came up with.
You should probably take this with a grain of salt, but, for me, the part that stood out the most was that the configs were being expanded, which is very exciting. That could mean different/more storage options, higher ram options, possibly multiple video card options (tho I find that unlikely). All that being said, I am very excited for the new MBPs
1. He had a hands-on demo of one in around March
2. When asked about ports he seemed to affirm that they were most, if not all usb-c
3. when asked about the dGPU, he said that at the time that he used it the dGPU had not been announced
4. He said that the BTO options were going to be expanded
5. He said that we would be pretty happy with what they came up with.
You should probably take this with a grain of salt, but, for me, the part that stood out the most was that the configs were being expanded, which is very exciting. That could mean different/more storage options, higher ram options, possibly multiple video card options (tho I find that unlikely). All that being said, I am very excited for the new MBPs
I'm thinking Apple intentionally kept the battery life the same (~9 hours) and tried to do whatever they could to make it lighter / thinner, etc.
But...More RAM / SSD options meaning higher configurations for the top-end model could also mean that the base model remains the same...Therefore we would have more options, because there's simply newer tech: bigger SSDs and Skylake supports more RAM.
The article says its not the supplier port's job to regulate how much power it can supply. i disagree with this and think the supplier port must regulate how much power it can supply.
Beside that point, the article is from Feb, and i have not seen any mass report of USB C devices getting fried.
idk if this is true but I've read somewhere that all current 15in MacBook pros are designed with dedicated graphics in mind. the $2000 one just has its dgpu removed so basically there is wasted space. as a result the integrated 15in has problems since it wasn't designed with no dgpu in the first place. I may be wrong. does anyone know about this?
oh yeah I just asked my grandma if she was under NDA from Apple. She said "What are you talking about?". damn she's secretive. I don't think I'll be able to extract any information from her. sorry guys.
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