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And MBP with a decent keyboard.

Maybe the butterfly keyboard v2.0 is better than the one in Macbook. It may also have slightly more travel room and possible as good or better than the current keyboard. Lets reserve judgement on that after we play with it.

but those bezels .... Feel like i am moving back in time.

Oh, sure. I just thought there would be no way they'd add it at all, since they redesigned the desktop keyboard with the Magic Keyboard.

If it doesn't have more key travel than the 12 inch MacBook its a no buy from me. That keyboard would be ridiculous on a machine that is supposedly for professional users.
 
This probably has been discussed at length already, but how do you think will the replacement of the FN keys with the 'magic toolbar' work?

I constantly use this key row to change brightness, volume and key-backlight.
If the 'magic toolbar' is now app-sensitive, does that mean I cannot change my volume, brightness etc. anymore when I have a program open that uses the 'magic toolbar' space for app-specific options?

I'd say it'll likely be either customisable (the ability to lock certain actions/shortcuts on it) or you can swipe it left or right to access other 'default' menus. I've little doubt we'll hear more about this in particular on Thursday.
 
The width of the 'macbook' keyboard is less than the current width of the 13" MBP right? So the total foot print of this laptop is slightly less wide?
 
If it doesn't have more key travel than the 12 inch MacBook its a no buy from me. That keyboard would be ridiculous on a machine that is supposedly for professional users.

Traditional keyboards use a scissor mechanism, which tends to wobble around the edges. This creates a lack of precision when you strike anywhere except the center of the key. We needed to reduce key wobbling for a keyboard this thin; otherwise, striking a key off-center could result in the keycap hitting bottom before a keystroke registers. So we designed a unique butterfly mechanism, which is wider than the scissor mechanism and has a single assembly made from a stiffer material — allowing for a more stable, responsive key that takes up less vertical space. This innovative design improves stability, uniformity, and control — no matter where you press on the key.
 
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Damn, the trackpad is HUGE!!
 

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Traditional keyboards use a scissor mechanism, which tends to wobble around the edges. This creates a lack of precision when you strike anywhere except the center of the key. We needed to reduce key wobbling for a keyboard this thin; otherwise, striking a key off-center could result in the keycap hitting bottom before a keystroke registers. So we designed a unique butterfly mechanism, which is wider than the scissor mechanism and has a single assembly made from a stiffer material — allowing for a more stable, responsive key that takes up less vertical space. This innovative design improves stability, uniformity, and control — no matter where you press on the key.

Have you copy and pasted that from some Apple PR material? What absolute nonsense.
 
I'll be ok with the Magic thingy if I can set it to remain in classic mode, regardless of app. I would like Escape, brightness controls,and volume controls available at all times.
 
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I fully understand that but there's no point in simply increasing the price to maintain the exactly the same profit margin if it means that no one will buy it because it's priced way too high. Sometimes companies have to compromise a little in the short term because it's no use having a 40% profit margin if sales are going to drop by 80% because the product is considered too expensive.

I agree those are the risks that they'll hasten the demise of the Mac in an important overseas market. I honestly hope I'm wrong and Apple does go for increases at the lower end of the scale. But the way they have handled prices in other markets leads me to believe they will be unafraid of fully upping the prices to absorb the entire cost of brexit.
 
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