Yeah I'm expecting better speakers, otherwise don't see the reason for grilles. I hope the 15" has improved speakers too 
uncertainBets on Magic Toolbar having / not having haptic feedback? I say definitely
Kind of surprised that they're not smaller. Hopefully they're keeping the footprint so they can crank insane battery life out of these...So, the Bezels seem a little smaller. Which is nice for sure.
but nothing like the Dell XPS. oh well
What if the ESC key is permanent present on the Magic Toolbar?I'm still genuinely concerned about the lack of the ESC key and how that will affect Software developers. Guess I need to wait and see
And MBP with a decent keyboard.
Maybe the butterfly keyboard v2.0 is better than the one in Macbook. It may also have slightly more travel room and possible as good or better than the current keyboard. Lets reserve judgement on that after we play with it.
but those bezels .... Feel like i am moving back in time.
Oh, sure. I just thought there would be no way they'd add it at all, since they redesigned the desktop keyboard with the Magic Keyboard.
This probably has been discussed at length already, but how do you think will the replacement of the FN keys with the 'magic toolbar' work?
I constantly use this key row to change brightness, volume and key-backlight.
If the 'magic toolbar' is now app-sensitive, does that mean I cannot change my volume, brightness etc. anymore when I have a program open that uses the 'magic toolbar' space for app-specific options?
amenI think most of us already hate it. I want a laptop, not a Christmas tree.
Tell them to go away!A few people are complaining about the 10.12.1 images being a "spoiler" for Thursday.
Why would you browse a rumor site if you don't want to see "spoilers"?
What if the ESC key is permanent present on the Magic Toolbar?
13 inch macbook base model with quad core i7 skylake, 16gb, 256gb in matte/space on the double please. Shipped for $1399
Am I Dreaming ?
If it doesn't have more key travel than the 12 inch MacBook its a no buy from me. That keyboard would be ridiculous on a machine that is supposedly for professional users.
I wonder how Bootcamp is going to handle the Magic Toolbar in Windows
I say just on the touch id portion...Bets on Magic Toolbar having / not having haptic feedback? I say definitely
Traditional keyboards use a scissor mechanism, which tends to wobble around the edges. This creates a lack of precision when you strike anywhere except the center of the key. We needed to reduce key wobbling for a keyboard this thin; otherwise, striking a key off-center could result in the keycap hitting bottom before a keystroke registers. So we designed a unique butterfly mechanism, which is wider than the scissor mechanism and has a single assembly made from a stiffer material — allowing for a more stable, responsive key that takes up less vertical space. This innovative design improves stability, uniformity, and control — no matter where you press on the key.
It can't be Apple material since it doesn't have the word "courage" in it.Have you copy and pasted that from some Apple PR material? What absolute nonsense.
I fully understand that but there's no point in simply increasing the price to maintain the exactly the same profit margin if it means that no one will buy it because it's priced way too high. Sometimes companies have to compromise a little in the short term because it's no use having a 40% profit margin if sales are going to drop by 80% because the product is considered too expensive.