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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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mattburley7 said:
the keyboard is the least thing im worried about, i can adapt to whatever they change about it pretty quickly.
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Maybe its my age, but I thought so as well, but when I got my iMac and the included keyboard was smaller then what I was expecting, I was typing slower and had more issues, I would have preferred to use it, but it just slowed me down too much. I'm sure the key travel is less of an issue, i.e., key placement vs key travel
 
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Xhakaology said:
Getting tired of all the babies whining on the thread about the butterfly keyboard, half of whom have never gotten off their ass, gone to a store and tested it for themselves:rolleyes:
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I've used the keyboard, contrary to most in its current iteration I don't mind it. However, I refuse to sacrifice build quality in the name of thinness. Here's to hoping they release a gen-2 butterfly keyboard.
 
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Actually my _biggest_ question is about the [optional] GPU, I think good money is on the AMD Polaris 480, but dang, I was hoping for more ...
 
maflynn said:
I would think the 13" will have 16GB, but you never know - it is apple we're talking about
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I am willing to spend more $$$ if 16GB is not the standard. I am planning on keeping this mac for awhile if it's the major redesign that we get. i could care less if its skylake or kaby lake.

im not going to wait for kaby lake next year because who knows when that is even coming. also have this mac for a few months and then kaby lake comes out and have to get another one for more $$$$ thanks but no thanks.
 
Janichsan said:
It's worth repeating: the mechanism is not the problem, the key travel is. It's perfectly possible that Apple builds a butterfly mechanism keyboard with a similar key travel as the current rMBPs. That would be absolutely fine.

If they on the other hand use a keyboard with the same minimal key travel as the rMB, it will suck.
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The butterfly mechanism doesnt really allow for more travel,its designed to be as shallow as possible


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onVacation said:
Yep, is does make sense. And unfortunately this seems to be a known problem as all their keyboard were exchanged without a problem.

However, I know 6 people who own a rMB. All of them had the keyboard exchanged at least once, 2 people even have the 3rd keyboard and one unlucky guy has the 4th keyboard.

In the end, it's just a matter of time until the keys get stuck after the warranty period and that's the point where it gets not only annoying, but also expensive.

Apple even made a guide on how to clean this keyboard with canned air, but that didn't seem to help for any rMB owners I know.


If they just put the same keyboard in the new rMBP, I'm not buying it, no matter how good the rest of it is.
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Me neither.
 
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mattburley7 said:
I am willing to spend more $$$ if 16GB is not the standard. I am planning on keeping this mac for awhile if it's the major redesign that we get. i could care less if its skylake or kaby lake.

im not going to wait for kaby lake next year because who knows when that is even coming. also have this mac for a few months and then kaby lake comes out and have to get another one for more $$$$ thanks but no thanks.
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Same, I will also be going with 16gb. I am still unsure whether anything bigger than 256gb of storage is worth the upgrade price. Same with i5 or i7 or higher clock speed i5.
 
Rob_2811 wrote: "The butterfly mechanism doesnt really allow for more travel,its designed to be as shallow as possible."

Can you please explain this, as I cannot - on the basis of the pictures - see that it's necessarily so. And "as shallow as possible", can this phrase mean that it can be a BIT more key travel (on the new rMBP than on the MB)?
 
Rob_2811 said:
The butterfly mechanism doesnt really allow for more travel,its designed to be as shallow as possible
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What part of that doesn't allow the travel to be adjusted by modifying the size of some parts of the switch. It is designed to be as thin as possible but that was because apple wanted it to be like that for the rMB. They can tweak it to give slightly more travel. The current magic keyboard is a fantastic keyboard and I hope they use that travel as the blueprint for the new rMBP. Typing on a rMBP now feels super clunky and uncomfortable in comparison.

The truth is that most people can adapt to a new keyboard that is similar to their old one pretty easily. Its a much bigger change going to a new layout or spacing than it is to a lower travel keyboard.
 
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Hyloba said:
Same, I will also be going with 16gb. I am still unsure whether anything bigger than 256gb of storage is worth the upgrade price. Same with i5 or i7 or higher clock speed i5.
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i think its worth going with i7 i have always had laptops with that processor. my last mac was a i5 though because they did not have i7 processor available at the apple store. i was in a hurry to get a laptop and didnt want to wait the extra few days-weeks just for that. thats the only thing i regret having in my current macbook pro. i cant wait now a few weeks for the i7 processor and greater ram since i am planning on keeping this for awhile.
 
I've made many compromises moving to Apple iPhone and Apple Watch, the new rMBP do seem to be one too many compromises I can deal with :(, it is really making me consider switching eco-systems. No Eco-system is perfect, but come on, remapping my Esc key? I feel like things are regressing too much in the Apple product line, while at least Microsoft/Android are evolving/improving.

I might just settle for the hopefully announced refreshed Air - which should have the fN keys, but still, it is a bit damning as to how much change is being made.

Should have left the Escape key alone as a separate key I think!
 
sarakn said:
So I was here 3 yrs ago buying my first MBP - a 15" and I'm ready for an upgrade. If the new macs are released this week, I think I'll get a 13".
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May I ask you why? Just as a curiosity, 'cause I'm currently on a 15" windows laptop, but I'd want to go with a 13" mbp.

However, I tried so many times in Apple Store the Macbook Keyboard and I can't say it's a terrible experience, actually better than a lot of other keyboards, but you definitely can't say is fantastic/revolutionary too, as Apple wants us to believe.
 
ONE MORE DAY!!!!! Can't wait for tomorrow.

Im on business in Houston, and have scoped out the nearest Apple stores, two are pretty close. If its good, and a launch day release, I may uber it up to Galleria store....

ONE MORE DAY!!!!!
 
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mattburley7 said:
i think its worth going with i7 i have always had laptops with that processor. my last mac was a i5 though because they did not have i7 processor available at the apple store. i was in a hurry to get a laptop and didnt want to wait the extra few days-weeks just for that. thats the only thing i regret having in my current macbook pro. i cant wait now a few weeks for the i7 processor and greater ram since i am planning on keeping this for awhile.
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I've seen there isn't much difference between the i5 and i7 versions of the 2015 MBP. Would it make much of a difference to you?
 
mortenandersen said:
Rob_2811 wrote: "The butterfly mechanism doesnt really allow for more travel,its designed to be as shallow as possible."

Can you please explain this, as I cannot - on the basis of the pictures - see that it's necessarily so. And "as shallow as possible", can this phrase mean that it can be a BIT more key travel?
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I mean that the mechanism was designed for the MacBook in mind to be as thin as possible. The way the mechanism moves inherently allows for less travel that the traditional scissor mechanism

This video kind of shows the difference in the mechanism


 
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