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samparmenter said:
What part of that doesn't allow the travel to be adjusted by modifying the size of some parts of the switch. It is designed to be as thin as possible but that was because apple wanted it to be like that for the rMB. They can tweak it to give slightly more travel. The current magic keyboard is a fantastic keyboard and I hope they use that travel as the blueprint for the new rMBP. Typing on a rMBP now feels super clunky and uncomfortable in comparison.

The truth is that most people can adapt to a new keyboard that is similar to their old one pretty easily. Its a much bigger change going to a new layout or spacing than it is to a lower travel keyboard.
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The Magic Keyboard doesnt use the butterfly mechanism
 
Hyloba said:
I've seen there isn't much difference between the i5 and i7 versions of the 2015 MBP. Would it make much of a difference to you?
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not really but why get the lower processor if you are planning on having the mac for a long time. max out the specs if you are planning on keeping it till the next redesign in several years from now. thats what im planning on doing.
 
Rob_2811 said:
I mean that the mechanism was designed for the MacBook in mind to be as thin as possible. The way the mechanism moves inherently allows for less travel that the traditional scissor mechanism
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We know how the two mechanisms work and its pretty obvious how you could make either of those have more travel. You can't make the scissor mechanism have less travel because you would have issues with the edge of the key bottoming out without actually activating the switch. Thats the whole idea of the butterfly mechanism. Wherever you hit the key it will uniformly depress the whole key and activate the switch.
 
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mattburley7 said:
not really but why get the lower processor if you are planning on having the mac for a long time. max out the specs if you are planning on keeping it till the next redesign in several years from now. thats what im planning on doing.
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Sure but if the difference is 0.01%, or in some cases even worse (I read the i7 fans are more often blowing for the same kind of workload), then saving 200$ is a bigger future investment. My thoughts though.
 
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Hyloba said:
Sure but if the difference is 0.01%, or in some cases even worse (I read the i7 fans are more often blowing for the same kind of workload), then saving 200$ is a bigger future investment. My thoughts though.
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ive had zero issues with i7 processors. i think its fine to invest in $200 more on them.
 
ALRS_S48 said:
Interesting leaked pictures.

How many of you are going to get the 13" inch version, what about the 15" version?

The base 15" inch version will most likely cost $3000+ CAD, that is: CPU + Integrated Graphics (limited to bare bone low res/quality gaming) + 128/256 GB SSD...

:D TAKE MY MONEY AWAY.
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No way. The actual one has much more than that for like 700$ less.
 
That's it guys. I can't wait anymore. I've had it. hope you guys have more patience than me. this is what I am getting and I don't care what you guys think. good luck waiting forever for your "sky lake/oled gimmick" MacBook pros. bye forever. lmao
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samparmenter said:
We know how the two mechanisms work and its pretty obvious how you could make either of those have more travel. You can't make the scissor mechanism have less travel because you would have issues with the edge of the key bottoming out without actually activating the switch. Thats the whole idea of the butterfly mechanism. Wherever you hit the key it will uniformly depress the whole key and activate the switch.
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Goodness me.

Do you honestly believe that the butterfly mechanism was designed for any other reason that to provide less key travel thus allow them to keep making the notebooks thinner? If you do i've got some magic beans for sale.

You've even accepted it yourself, you can't make scissor mechanism with less travel so they designed a whole new mechanism.

The fact that they don't use the butterfly mechanism on their own wireless standalone keyboard says it all. They know its a compromise.
 
Mkondrak said:
That's it guys. I can't wait anymore. I've had it. hope you guys have more patience than me. this is what I am getting and I don't care what you guys think. good luck waiting forever for your "sky lake/oled gimmick" MacBook pros. bye forever.
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really? you cant wait one more day? lol
 
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Rob_2811 said:
I mean that the mechanism was designed for the MacBook in mind to be as thin as possible. The way the mechanism moves inherently allows for less travel that the traditional scissor mechanism

This video kind of shows the difference in the mechanism


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I recall when the Retina MacBook was first announced, the butterfly mechanism wasn't simply to make the keyboard have less travel, but to make the key easier to press from any position across its surface.
 
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Rob_2811 said:
Goodness me.

Do you honestly believe that the butterfly mechanism was designed for any other reason that to provide less key travel thus allow them to keep making the notebooks thinner? If you do i've got some magic beans for sale.

You've even accepted it yourself, you can't make scissor mechanism with less travel so they designed a whole new mechanism.

The fact that they don't use the butterfly mechanism on their own wireless standalone keyboard says it all. They know its a compromise.
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Right, which is why they shouldn't use it in the MBP, at least with that crazy travel. Anyway, we'll know tomorrow!
 
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Mkondrak said:
That's it guys. I can't wait anymore. I've had it. hope you guys have more patience than me. this is what I am getting and I don't care what you guys think. good luck waiting forever for your "sky lake/oled gimmick" MacBook pros. bye forever. lmao
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You do that :).
[doublepost=1477489568][/doublepost]http://news.microsoft.com/microsoft-event-2016/

Let's see what is being announced (should start in 15 minute)

An AIO is expected, as for a Surface Book 2 / SP 5?
 
I have the 2016 MacBook with butterfly keys, once I got used to them I love em... hope the MacBook Pro is the same. You guys will love it like life without a 3.5 jack and SD card reader, it's awesome!!
 
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Sorry if it's stupid question :D

In Apple website when they say ..

£1,999.00
Includes VAT of approx. £334.00

does that mean I will pay £1999 or £2333 ??
 
myscrnnm said:
I recall when the Retina MacBook was first announced, the butterfly mechanism wasn't simply to make the keyboard have less travel, but to make the key easier to press from any position across its surface.
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Yes that was the official line, because they don't want to say that they did it purely to make the machine thinner. If the scissor mechanism was in some way inadequate why did they use it on the Magic Keyboard after the MacBook had been released?
 
Rob_2811 said:
Do you honestly believe that the mechanism was designed for any other reason that to provide less key travel thus allow them to keep making the notebooks thinner? If you do i've got some magic beans for sale.
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Without taking Apple's (real or imagined) reasons into account, I think that one reason for applying the butterfly mechanism is to create a key for better keypressing, that is: it is pressed down regardless of where on the key you hit/touch.

Or as myscrnnmput it: "I recall when the Retina MacBook was first announced, the butterfly mechanism wasn't simply to make the keyboard have less travel, but to make the key easier to press from any position across its surface."


And if it's possible to make more travel also on a butterfly key, then the upcoming MBP may have such keys with more travel than the MP? Would not that be a possibility?
 
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