Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[CaliKW]

Wow, they are closing the thread. THE THREAD. I feel like I've lost my online forum virginity with you guys (and Im much to old to have still had it), but somehow this thread has (well okay Apple) has made me excited, broken my heart, reignited my excitement, smashed my hopes, and once again given me hope. Tomorrow all our wait ends, and so too the thread... poetic, sad and I guess time to move on without you all... sniffle... sniffle...

See you on the other side...

Love,

CaliKW

 

[Rob_2811]

Not that much of a downside for most. Apple trackpads make using the mouse fine. I'd also be surprised if those battery times are accurate.

I agree on the battery estimates, we'll see.

My point is you cant compare a notebook which ships with digital pen functionality to a Mac that doesn't and claim its over priced unless you are factoring in how much it would cost to duplicate that functionality within Apples ecosystem. That would require you to buy a Mac and an iPad Pro.

 

[killawat]

I doubt they'll be out tomorrow. You can still order custom MBP's without any slip in shipping. This also leads me to believe they will continue to sell the older model at the same price while increasing the price of the new models. Hope I'm wrong, I was hoping to bring this bad boy into work next week.

The 17" was snatched away right after the 2012 keynote, gone, forever within the span of 60 minutes. Same for 2015s most likely.

 

[eroslws]

what are you talking about? for the past 2 weeks whenever I wanted to upgrade the 13in retina to 16gb it always slipped in shipping.

The slip happens; it's usually an estimated 10 business days, try it out. This is because you're ordering a custom model. It just hasn't slipped beyond that (i.e., 2-3 weeks or Unavailable).
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The 17" was snatched away right after the 2012 keynote, gone, forever within the span of 60 minutes. Same for 2015s most likely.

Ah I see. But the people with 17" orders still got theirs and you could still buy it for a short time at the Apple store? Must have been pandemonium, lol.

 

[Synchro3]

I concur. But so is selling a 2012 laptop with a 500GB 5400 RPM and 4GB of RAM for $1099.

Edit: Forgot the beautiful screen too, lol.

The CPU of this MacBook Pro 2012 13" is only 15% slower than the actual 13" Retina MacBook Pro. Install an SSD (or two SSD's) and 16 GB RAM and you will not notice any difference to actual MacBook's.

If you don't like the screen you can use it as Desktop, Ethernet port is present.

 

[Branflaakes]

I'll say it again, it's plain sad. I know someone who is a consumer and they bought a Tablet and the thing was outdated and more expensive than the one I told her to buy and she just said no it's ok I am content. It's good to be content in life don't get me wrong but it's also good to save money for the cheaper and better item sometimes.

Completely agree. On a related note, many-a-times when you try to give good, well-intentioned, as well as rational advice, they'll respond with "it's my money, don't bother me" or something similar even though it's irrational. Some humans function off Feelings as a primary cognitive function rather than Logic.

 

[Baldrake]

Hey, are there any graphic designers out there? I feel like we need a "I survived the waiting for Skylake MBP thread" trophy or something to remember all these months of highs, lows, expectation, disappointment and excessive alcohol consumption.

 

[Riven]

Lurker on MR since 2008 posting first time.

I gotta say that the Surface Studio looks superb. I could see myself using a desktop like that, but it runs Windows and 14 years of Apple loyalty ain't gonna change my OS preferences too quickly. Plus it's a desktop and I'd rather have power on the go. So let's go Apple, let's keep up with the competition you've inspired in so many sectors of the computing industry. Yes, I know your phones generate the vast majority of your sales, but you can't forget the Apple diehards. That hurt us prosumers when you pulled the plug on the 17" MBP, and shrunk the Mac Pro. I can keep wishing for a 17" (retina) MBP, but I know it won't come. I can also keep wishing for a no-BS professional Mac OS, akin to Snow Leopard. I mean, come on, 2 to 3+ GB RAM at startup on 10.11 versus 300 MB RAM at startup on 10.6.8? And so many of these extra features I don't want... can you at least give us the option to disable certain software features/daemons?

Not expecting too much this time around from this Apple event, and not excited as I usually have been in the past about events like this. If they ditch the dGPU in the 15" and don't offer 32 GB DDR4, the new 17" Razer Blade Pro will look a little more enticing despite it running Windows. I need power on the go, and my 2013 rMBP 15" is getting a little underpowered for my use cases.

Even if they do keep the dGPU, I'm still nervous about that because I'm almost certain that Jony Ive is gonna be concerned about making the rMBP as thin as paper, impacting thermal dissipation capabilities, thus limiting their choice of GPU. I want a MBP (or any laptop for that matter) that can last me at least 5 years - not only in terms of durability, but being able to keep up with newer computers. So we shall see tomorrow.

 

[Branflaakes]

what are you talking about? for the past 2 weeks whenever I wanted to upgrade the 13in retina to 16gb it always slipped in shipping.

I think he means a large gap suddenly in shipping configured builds. A build-to-order MBP always had the time-frame margin delay that it has if you order today, rather than a huge difference that is expected if a new MBP is coming out imminently.

 

[volcomvenom]

I really hope that they discontinue the 2015 MacBook Pro's after tomorrow and/or after the new ones are released. I wonder how fast the new SSD's will be in read and write speeds?!? I am really hoping for something like 3,000mb/s read and 2,600mb/s speeds.

 

[ThisBougieLife]

I really hope that they discontinue the 2015 MacBook Pro's after tomorrow and/or after the new ones are released. I wonder how fast the new SSD's will be in read and write speeds?!?

Yeah that's one of the things I'm looking forward to. Last Mac I had was from 2012, but technology has improved all around since then. Faster SSDs, faster memory, faster processors, better power efficiency...I can't wait to try one of these new machines It will be an upgrade in every possible way from my 2012 machine (unless the keyboard is inferior )

 

[Branflaakes]

Yeah that's one of the things I'm looking forward to. Last Mac I had was from 2012, but technology has improved all around since then. Faster SSDs, faster memory, faster processors, better power efficiency...I can't wait to try one of these new machines It will be an upgrade in every possible way from my 2012 machine (unless the keyboard is inferior )

Inferiority is opinionated from and relative to each user. One cannot say the keyboard is inferior because said person dislikes it

 

[killawat]

Ah I see. But the people with 17" orders still got theirs and you could still buy it for a short time at the Apple store? Must have been pandemonium, lol.

Jun 12, 2012

Well after the news of the discontinued MBP 17" I ran down to our local Apple store and bought one of the last in stock...While I was there, the store sold 3 others...Guess more people wanted a 17" MBP than Apple thought...Oh well I didn't get USB 3.0 but I still have a 17" MBP with Thunderbolt!

 

[volcomvenom]

Yeah that's one of the things I'm looking forward to. Last Mac I had was from 2012, but technology has improved all around since then. Faster SSDs, faster memory, faster processors, better power efficiency...I can't wait to try one of these new machines It will be an upgrade in every possible way from my 2012 machine (unless the keyboard is inferior )

I completely agree, I have a 2013 machine and I really can't wait until this update, woot woot!!!!! Only 13 hours and 48 minutes (until the event).

 

[kingston1987]

You guys are scaring me.. should I just watch to keynote in front of the apple store so that they wouldn't sell out?? I was planning to go an hour or something after the keynote was over.. You guys are even speculating that it might not be on sale tomorrow?!?!? (Stock model)

 

[eroslws]

Jun 12, 2012

Hahahaha That made my night, thank you.

 

[killawat]

I was planning to go an hour or something after the keynote was over..

I hate to tell you this but if you aren't in line with the rest of us right now then you're not gonna get one sorry

kidding we really really won't know until tomorrow. EVERYTHING is speculation.

 

[heeloliver]

bring me computer now

 

[chriscrk]

I wonder just how useful the magic toolbar will be to be honest. Because if its purpose is to add more flexibility to the F-keys row by adding short cuts or what not, then what will happen to all the current system short cuts?

Imagine if you're using Photoshop for example and the Magic Toolbar removes all the screen brightness, volume controls, etc., to add Photoshop shortcuts... Will that mean I have to get out of the app just so I can control music volume or change my screen brightness? It seems counterproductive tbh.

I'm starting to doubt just how useful this addition will turn out to be.

 

[Rob_2811]

You guys are scaring me.. should I just watch to keynote in front of the apple store so that they wouldn't sell out?? I was planning to go an hour or something after the keynote was over.. You guys are even speculating that it might not be on sale tomorrow?!?!? (Stock model)

Every chance it might not be. More often than not there is a short lead time after an announcement.

 

[kingston1987]

I hate to tell you this but if you aren't in line with the rest of us right now then you're not gonna get one sorry

kidding we really really won't know until tomorrow. EVERYTHING is speculation.

How long are keynotes usually? At least more than 30 minutes right?

 

[Branflaakes]

You guys are scaring me.. should I just watch to keynote in front of the apple store so that they wouldn't sell out?? I was planning to go an hour or something after the keynote was over.. You guys are even speculating that it might not be on sale tomorrow?!?!? (Stock model)

Go tomorrow. IDK tho.

 

[killawat]

Will that mean I have to get out of the app just so I can control music volume or change my screen brightness? It seems counterproductive tbh.

I imagine you would have much control over app context and which apps, if any, are allowed to take over the oled.

 

[Mattsasa]

On the pricing, lets pretend for a minute that Apple doesn't have a phobia of graphics cards and offered an option of discrete graphics on the 13 inch MacBook Pro, lets say they they build in support for the Apple Pencil into the display and ship the Pencil with the notebook. Would Apple not be in the same ballpark price wise?

I configured the current MacBook Pro on Apples US Store i7, 16 gb RAM, 256 Gb SSD. Throw in the Pencil and you're looking at just short of $2300. Not too much of a stretch to imagine a $500 premium on that for digital pen functionality, discrete graphics and a modern processor.

The $,2400 Surface book has 8gb ram.
It's $2,800 for 16gb.

I imagine 13" MBP with 16GB 256GB and i7 will go for less than $1,800

say apple did $500 for discrete GPU, that's still $500. difference for surface pen, touchscreen, and ability to remove tablet. not abd

Surfacebook Gen 2....

Skylake Dual Core i7 ,GTX 965M, 16gb ram, 512gb ssd = $2799 ????

13 inch screen with 3000x2000 resolution, 16 hour battery.

Such a rip off.

Macbook pro 15 with dGPU will be at least 2x more powerful.

The only downside is slightly less pixels and 4~5 hour less battery life.

I'm gonna stick with the base 15 rmbp.

Nice try microsoft

MacBook Pro 15 is less portable...

but that's what I'm getting

 

[killawat]

How long are keynotes usually? At least more than 30 minutes right?

about 1hr