Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[Dgrohl]

Sorry, but this is the case for every product update ever.

I believe Apple has a two week return period so if its within 2 weeks you can get the new one. Beyond that, such is life.

Yes, I know it, but you know it would be kinda disappointing spend 2000$, knowing that in a month it will cost half its value.

I'll wait until February 10th and if there's nothing about this, I will buy the actual model. I'm aware of the 2 weeks period, just in case of sudden update

 

[killawat]

I think it wouldn't be wise for Apple to make such a move as an average consumer might recognise there isn't much new in the rMBP and might want to switch to something 'newer' (see Skylake w/ MS)

Not gonna lie, if Apple stuffed in the new skylake and just one TB3 in the same chassis I would be in the Apple Store like a crack fiend looking for a fix. I prefer a redesign and of course lots of extra stuff but, that's how desperate I am right now. My 2010 is holding me back but my wallet won't open for the 2015 rigs lol.

 

[dynestein]

Interesting. Looking at the buyer's guide, there are now only two items in Apple's entire lineup that are safe to buy; iPad pro and Apple TV.

 

[R3k]

What's this got to do with me? The fact is still that there has never been a year between updates. We aren't even past the most lengthy time between updates yet people swear it's June like we just had an update in October or something.

Well, i was replying to you, so hey.

Anyways. Apple introduced the Retina Macbook Pro in June 2012, so that would be a neat 4 year cycle for a redesign.

So i can fully understand, are you questioning why people believe in a June redesign compared to March? Apart from the above, probably as we haven't heard any rumors for a redesign. If you're speaking of just a spec boost, then the prospect of March gains more points. However, many of us are betting on a redesign, for many reasons including the 4 year cycle and also because of technologies like USB-C which is already in the Macbook.

 

[toddzrx]

Well, i was replying to you, so hey.

Anyways. Apple introduced the Retina Macbook Pro in June 2012, so that would be a neat 4 year cycle for a redesign.

So i can fully understand, are you questioning why people believe in a June redesign compared to March? Apart from the above, probably as we haven't heard any rumors for a redesign. If you're speaking of just a spec boost, then the prospect of March gains more points. However, many of us are betting on a redesign, for many reasons including the 4 year cycle and also because of technologies like USB-C which is already in the Macbook.

Since when does Apple ever stick to a "neat 4 year cycle for a redesign"? If anything, their redesigns for every computer line is completely haphazard, other than that they usually occur no more frequently than every 3 years (and usually more).

 

[WRONG]

Looking at the buyer's guide makes me sigh, and probably an average consumer too.
I am starting to think Apple will want to make a big bang, refreshing most of their Mac line.
It'd be a smart move in the growing Mac computer sales, making the purchase of a Mac computer seem alot more attractive for a big group of people

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That's a really sad image.
But, as long as Apple business is made 68% on iPhone, and 8% on Macs, I can understand it.

 

[nicovh]

That's a really sad image.
But, as long as Apple business is made 68% on iPhone, and 8% on Macs, I can understand it.

unfortunately, yes....
[doublepost=1453931579][/doublepost]Does anyone know around what timeframe after availabilty we can expect some benchmarks of the Iris Pro 580's? It'd be really interesting to compare factual data to dGPU benchmarks

 

[koyoot]

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Well, that is very symptomatic.

Which computer did not needed TB3 and... 4 and 5K support?

Exactly. Macbook, and iMac. Macbook - it does not have enough power to drive 5K display, but will require TB3.
iMac - because it has 5K display already built in, so it does not need external display.

It looks like Apple desperately waited for it with all of their line-up to update.

And they may have a surprise in store for us...

 

[killawat]

unfortunately, yes....
[doublepost=1453931579][/doublepost]Does anyone know around what timeframe after availabilty we can expect some benchmarks of the Iris Pro 580's? It'd be really interesting to compare factual data to dGPU benchmarks

Well at the very latest we will see it perform at Intel GDC so sometime after March 14 unless apple can do their own release

 

[enae101]

Hi everyone, this might be a stupid question but I'm buying my first MacBook Pro soon. I need one by the end of March, latest, and I'm wondering whether it's worth waiting. I feel that an HDMI and SD card reader would be super useful for me and so I'm tempted to buy the 2015 rMBP; as someone that doesn't game and occasionally edits photos and videos, will I notice the performance difference? Or am I just woefully underestimating the improvements to come? Thanks guys, this is a cool community.

 

[bfid111]

Hi everyone, this might be a stupid question but I'm buying my first MacBook Pro soon. I need one by the end of March, latest, and I'm wondering whether it's worth waiting. I feel that an HDMI and SD card reader would be super useful for me and so I'm tempted to buy the 2015 rMBP; as someone that doesn't game and occasionally edits photos and videos, will I notice the performance difference? Or am I just woefully underestimating the improvements to come? Thanks guys, this is a cool community.

Wait. Seriously Wait.

 

[destroyboredom]

Definitely wait. Worst case scenario you will have a choice of the new model or picking up an older model at a reduced price. With news that processors are available I'm confident a release won't be 'delayed' past March.

Hi everyone, this might be a stupid question but I'm buying my first MacBook Pro soon. I need one by the end of March, latest, and I'm wondering whether it's worth waiting. I feel that an HDMI and SD card reader would be super useful for me and so I'm tempted to buy the 2015 rMBP; as someone that doesn't game and occasionally edits photos and videos, will I notice the performance difference? Or am I just woefully underestimating the improvements to come? Thanks guys, this is a cool community.

 

[killawat]

So i can fully understand, are you questioning why people believe in a June redesign compared to March? Apart from the above, probably as we haven't heard any rumors for a redesign. If you're speaking of just a spec boost, then the prospect of March gains more points. However, many of us are betting on a redesign, for many reasons including the 4 year cycle and also because of technologies like USB-C which is already in the Macbook.

What i'm saying is

For the last 10 years
Across CPU Changes &
Chassis Redesign &
New Ports &
New Screens &
etc

Apple has never waited a full year to introduce SOME TYPE of update to the MBP line. I don't care what it is. Maybe its a spec bump, maybe its a complete overhaul, maybe its the fastest SSDs on the planet, maybe its thinner.

The 2015 rMBP 15" isn't yet 281 days old, at which point it will be one of if not the longest running MBP between releases. A June release is an outlier. Redesign or spec bump, it doesn't matter. The standard deviation between the releases in the buyers guide for the last couple years (+ 2015) is ±21 days. So:

Average 15" Release: 265 Days
Low: January 18
Average : February 8
High: February 29

A march release is then the more likely scenario than a june release. The only way a June release would make sense is if the rMBP was updated to Broadwell for early Fall 2015. That didn't happen.

 

[bfid111]

What i'm saying is

For the last 10 years
Across CPU Architecture Changes &
Chassis Redesign &
New Ports &
New Screens &
etc

Apple has never waited a full year to introduce SOME TYPE of update to the MBP line. I don't care what it is. Maybe its a spec bump, maybe its a complete overhaul, maybe its the fastest SSDs on the planet, maybe its thinner.

The 2015 rMBP 15" isn't yet 281 days old, at which point it will be one of if not the longest running MBP between releases. A June release is an outlier. Redesign or spec bump, it doesn't matter. The standard deviation between the releases in the buyers guide for the last couple years (+ 2015) is ±21 days. So:

Average 15" Release: 265 Days
Low: January 18
Average : February 8
High: February 29

A march release is then the more likely scenario than a june release.

Crossing my fingers for march

 

[j1104638]

...

To add a little more data to your stats.

The longest period between recent releases has been 280 days.
13" has been released on 2015-03-09, 15" - 2015-05-19.
+281 days would be 2015-12-15 and 2016-02-24 respectively.
2016-06-15 would be +464 and +393 days respectively.

It's not that June release is impossible - it's just that statistically it's unlikely to happen. Even if you get the difference between the longest and shortest update cycle - 280 minus 223 which is 57 days - adding that to 280 days won't give you anything near June's 393 or 464 days.

However Apple is known for doing whatever they want. It's enough to look at Mac Mini release cycles. Or consider that it's already 325 days since last update of 13". So we're already quite deviant from past stats. Of course this should be accounted for.

 

[satchmo]

Am I mistaken or are all of today's announcements, suitable only for the 15" MBP?

 

[j1104638]

CPUs suitable for 13" are available for quite some time already.

 

[motime61]

If the chips are available now in January, why would Apple wait till June for a redesign? They have quite a bit of time till March to get everything ready, unless they are holding out for a certain dGPU, it doesn't make sense.

 

[HighRes15]

I can't provide a straight answer on 'when will the new MBPs be out', but I can say this: while the chips may only have announced now, Apple will have had detailed pinout information and related details months ago under NDA. This information is defined much before the chips themselves are physically in hand. The information is sufficient for actual logic board design and simulation of thermal dissipation on either the current design or any proposed redesign.

As such, the only significant dependency on the release of the new MBPs is the actual volume availability of the chips themselves. Apple, like any major manufacturer, will get early pre-production samples of the chips. Therefore, any redesign work has long since been completed, now that the chips themselves are publicly announced, both in terms of pricing and availability, the primary question is, does Apple have enough volume from Intel to greenlight production and release ? Of course, if they plan to announce the systems at some media event, that adds a separate artificial delay.

 

[R3k]

What i'm saying is

For the last 10 years
Across CPU Changes &
Chassis Redesign &
New Ports &
New Screens &
etc

Apple has never waited a full year to introduce SOME TYPE of update to the MBP line. I don't care what it is. Maybe its a spec bump, maybe its a complete overhaul, maybe its the fastest SSDs on the planet, maybe its thinner.

The 2015 rMBP 15" isn't yet 281 days old, at which point it will be one of if not the longest running MBP between releases. A June release is an outlier. Redesign or spec bump, it doesn't matter. The standard deviation between the releases in the buyers guide for the last couple years (+ 2015) is ±21 days. So:

Average 15" Release: 265 Days
Low: January 18
Average : February 8
High: February 29

A march release is then the more likely scenario than a june release. The only way a June release would make sense is if the rMBP was updated to Broadwell for early Fall 2015. That didn't happen.

Cool. Really hope you are right, honestly.

 

[augustya]

I find it silly when people here say that Apple will release a upgraded rMBP in March and then release a fully redesigned rMBP in June I mean what business sense does it make to release a fully redesigned Mac in just two months? I think whatever we have to see from Apple as offering it would be either March or June but I don't think it would be March and also June !

 

[volcomvenom]

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I find it silly when people here say that Apple will release a upgraded rMBP in March and then release a fully redesigned rMBP in June I mean what business sense does it make to release a fully redesigned Mac in just two months? I think whatever we have to see from Apple as offering it would be either March or June but I don't think it would be March and also June !

I don't think so either.
[doublepost=1453959152][/doublepost]I just want a MBPr that can do 50/50 of my laundry, dishes and any other house hold chore I have.
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Yes, I know it, but you know it would be kinda disappointing spend 2000$, knowing that in a month it will cost half its value.

I'll wait until February 10th and if there's nothing about this, I will buy the actual model. I'm aware of the 2 weeks period, just in case of sudden update

More power to ya brotha!
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That's not an issue for Apple. I think it's very likely that they will drop the sd-card slot and that they'll only use usb-c ports with TB3 support and a headphone port. The question is whether they will drop the MagSafe adapter as they did with the rMB.

I love the magsafe 2!!! How dare they maybe planning on taking it away from us!!!

 

[joecool99]

Crossing my fingers for march

that has 0 effect. you have been lied to...

 

[frosse]

This is just insane...if you buy something today, it can be obsolete in a month...it is a punishment for people like me that need the laptop for work...

You're using the word "obsolete" wrong. What you bought isn't useless just because there's a newer version available.

 

[NiVanc]

I just read a new article from Mark Gurman about the March Event (http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/27/ipad-air-3-march-event-new-apple-watch-bands/). The article doesn't mention anything about new MBPs .