with double the thickness, and triple the weight + being plastic, not centered touchpad (horrible for the hands), keyboard with numpad (horrible for the hands)
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with double the thickness, and triple the weight + being plastic, not centered touchpad (horrible for the hands), keyboard with numpad (horrible for the hands)
It weighs 2.5 kg or 5.6 pound just about 1 pound more, and about noise notebook review notes not particularly noisy on heavy load, consider the rMBP also has dual fans.
Dimensions (W x D x H)
(mm) : 377.4 x 252.3 x 24.5 - 25.9 (inches) : 14.86" x 9.93" x 0.96" - 1.02"., just about twice thick than a rMBP, this is reasonable considering it allows you to to upgrade ssd, memory and hard drive (also includes a DVD which is almost useless for me but still valuable to some people, I assume it could be replaced by another hdd or a battery as on other lenovo).
It's hard not to be tempted by this Monster mobile workstation (it's about as powerful as the basic new mac pro) also for me that I run memory hungry apps on my work it could mean I could travel with my work, very tempting also considering that almost all my professional apps have native Linux releases (Mostly cad and math) , I just would need to deal with few mostly non pro apps with no Linux version but close equivalent (as word/excel for open office).
Edit: there is no DVD on the p50 only on the p70.
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Not triple weight just 5.6 vs 4.5, about the keyboard and TouchPad layout it's a personal subjective thing I really miss the numeric Keypad (I have a full keyboard on my desktop), and having the TouchPad few inches away really won't hurt you.
Lenovo's keyboard are on the top on feel and quality it's have been a brand selling point over the years if you want an better keyboard you'll have to find one with mechanical switches.
Apple should re-take the "pro" and give us both a Xeon cpu and upgradeable ECC memory (options for at least 32 gb) and std M.2 NVMe.
Another thing I like on this lenovo is the battery replaceable not only you can have an spare battery also means on the time you don't need to trash the laptop when the battery dead, things we miss on the rMBP just to have 1 pound less on weigh.
What would you bother running OS X on that beast of a machine when OS X isn't optimised for that hardware? Just run Windows or Linux if you want the full benefit of the hardware otherwise what's the point!
re: Lenovo Thinkpad P50
Ability to add a second SSD and expand memory to 32 is the most compelling for me.
Storage: I need 2TB of data and databases with me each day. I could get by on 1.5TB.
Memory: Am currently running a Thinkpad W540 with 32gb. It's the first laptop I haven't had to wait on.
I will almost definitely purchase the new Retina MacBook Pro when it comes out. This will be my first personally (my $, not work $) purchased laptop in eons. Am very much looking forward to trying the Mac world out. Started scoping out books / references on Amazon to help with the conversion
Currently I use an iPhone 6+, Samsung Galaxy Note, iPad Pro, and above Thinkpad each day. Not much OS/x experience.
I might also get the Thinkpad P50, for exactly the reasons you mentioned - I could easily expand SSD storage to 2TB.
With Apple devices, I never have enough storage.
To wit: My 128GB iPhone 6+ now has < 1GB free...
Music is pared down to 750mb
Photos have been pared down to 1.2gb
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I'm the case I switch to this machine I wouldn't run osx on this (maybe on a vm) I will run Ubuntu or another distribution and wincrap and osx on virtual machines just in case I need few apps not available or not as optimal.
Of course depends on Apple we deserve an good surprise and a good one, while rumours seems indicate the next Macbook Pro may have no dGPU still possible it to have a Xeon as top cpu option and I hope also memory configurations beyond 16gb are reasonable possible, not discarded the could still offer a dGPU on the top Model just like now.
Actually you can expand it to near 6tb using 2 1tb Sata (slower than NVMe) m.2 ssd sandisk x400 and a 3.8 tb samsung 850 pro just launched.
I'll wait to see what comes from Apple before switching.
I seriously wish, the 2016 rMBP does not have it. I hope apple does not do this mistake of making the rMBP like that !!
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I seriously wish, the 2016 rMBP does not have it. I hope apple does not do this mistake of making the rMBP like that !!
Historically, were new MacBooks released as soon as new processors/parts became available, or did Apple always wait until a big event like WWDC?
I'm just curious because a lot of people are expecting a March release, but with a big processor upgrade and most likely a new design, wouldn't it make sense for Apple to release the new MBPs at WWDC?
I'm just curious because a lot of people are expecting a March release, but with a big processor upgrade and most likely a new design, wouldn't it make sense for Apple to release the new MBPs at WWDC?
Apple really don't need to build a monster just to sell an decent pro laptop, the Xeon cpu it's an option for Skylake it shares the same BGA connector only requires ecc ram, adding user upgradeable ram it won't add too much thick or take a lot of power but more important than upgradeable ram is having ram Suze choices while 16gb is good for a majority it's not an rule and there are not few people requiring much more than that, so having choices for 32 also 64 gb ram ecc and not ecc (what's the joke having an Xeon w/o ecc Ram?).
Another point is the gpu AMD has decent mobile workstation GPU none of them on an Apple product, a real pro rMBP should pair a Xeon cpu with ECC ram and a workstation gpu (also with ECC ram).
I'm waiting obviously I'll prefer an Mac than a pclinux machine, but considering the possibilities this lenovo machine offer it could be a logical path.
Apple used (stupidly) to wait until the main launch events twice a year among other stupid things as to only sell phones on contract. That changed with Angela Ahrendts, she follows more logical and profitable approachs, so don't Strange having more launch events or no launch events (case minimal updates as cpu generation).
The primary reason that Apple made the new rMB keyboard is because they needed a functional keyboard in a thin device. They had a challenge, so they innovated and ended up with a really nice result... that just either takes a lot of getting used to, just isn't built for long-form typing, or simply just needs more travel to work perfectly.
The secondary reason actually adopts the same rationale as the trackpads, getting rid of the diving boards. Wherever you make contact, you're good to go; no more wobbliness. It's still a great keyboard and the individual LEDs are a bonus.
There's no reason not to have more travel in the rMBP, even when putting in the new butterfly keyboards. It can't be as thin as the rMB. I'm not exactly sure what they'll do for rMB 2, however.
The secondary reason actually adopts the same rationale as the trackpads, getting rid of the diving boards. Wherever you make contact, you're good to go; no more wobbliness. It's still a great keyboard and the individual LEDs are a bonus.
There's no reason not to have more travel in the rMBP, even when putting in the new butterfly keyboards. It can't be as thin as the rMB. I'm not exactly sure what they'll do for rMB 2, however.
Yes, good analysis. We want the precision of the new key mechanism, but with more travel.
I personally would be very disappointed if Apple put the butterfly keyboard in the rMBP. They don't need to make it as thin as the rMB. I mean already it is at a nice weight, I don't know why Apple is obsessed with size zero shape for all its devices.
The new magic keyboard gives me hope that they won't repeat the rMB in the MBP. The cloth keyboard for the iPad pro as well. They are both nicer to type on than the rMB keyboard.
I can't express how much I hate the rMB keyboard. It requires just enough force for that tiny key travel to be annoying; but not enough travel and feedback to feel nice. I think a glass touch keyboard is better in all honesty.
Quite often its relatively tongue in cheek. Everyone knows already that they cant know.
So have the Intel 580 iGPUs popped up in any benchmarks/reviews yet? These have been released for almost a month now something should be out....
I want to see real world performance on these...I still don't think it will come anywhere close to real world performance of the 370 with its dedicated GDDR5 memory.
I want to see real world performance on these...I still don't think it will come anywhere close to real world performance of the 370 with its dedicated GDDR5 memory.
First you need the latest drivers
... Those just popped up a few days ago: Intel Download centerSo far as I know the XPS 13 is one of the few available with the Iris equipped Skylake chips...
What about an Retina Macbook Pro² (squared) the same rMBP but on Xeon Skylake + AMD FirePro Mobile all with ECC RAM (32/64 GB) and finished in rigorous black as the Mac Pro.
#justDreaming
#justDreaming
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I'd love the pro laptops to change to black, although, fingerprints would be an issue
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