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Check out this site. I saw an ad for it on Facebook, and what appears to be a Gold MBP on the Ad's thumbnail caught my attention:
http://www.appycouple.com/

Just some random site, but it would appear the owner also wants a Gold Skylake MBP. :D:p
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WRONG said:
I don't know about that...
Yeah, it's going to be a big surprise, and I can already see all the web saying "the new MBP no-one was aware of it's here".
But still, I think that having just a few leaks about the new MBP would have give really more excitement.

Imagine if we had a part of new chassis of the redesigned MBP.
Just a tiny part, not enough to confirm us that is shortly coming, but enough to convince that it's a real piece of an Apple product.
Expectation would have gone over the top, and its waiting too.
Right now we almost know that this MBP is coming, just don't know when.

To be clear: look at all the leaks about the upcoming iPhone and iPad.
They are keeping the attention high.
Why don't do the same thing for the MBP?
I think is somehow related to the Osborne Effect.
But anyway, let's still wait.
By now is almost a month.
Time is running...
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We also have to remember that Macs don't get the same attention and don't sell nearly in the volumes of the iPhones and iPad. If Apple is cracking down on the supply chain, then it's going to be 10x easier for a Macbook Pro than an iPhone produced in the millions.
 
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I don't recall any part leaks for the MacBook. I also don't recall any leaks in the new Mac Pro. I don't recall any part leaks for the last iMac revision either.

Macs sell in much smaller numbers than iPhones or iPads. The lack of part leaks isn't indicative that there won't be a redesign for this generation.

We are still a month out with plenty of time for rumors to surface before the event.
 
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Maybe I didn't express myself well.
What I mean is that the major part of past Macs was somehow "expected". The fanless MacBook was expected long time before the announce, same for the retina iMac, and same for the retina MacBook Pro.
The Mac Pro is probably out because is made in USA, and its production is even smaller than other Macs.
Back in the days, we were aware ( :D ) that something was coming up.
Today, we only have a couple of rumors, one by Ming-Chi Kuo that is predicting a growth of sales by June with the upgrade of MacBooks, and an old rumor about revamped MacBook Air.

You can see how completely different are this two situations.
Still, as already stated by me and others, we still a month to see rumors and anticipations.
 
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WRONG said:
Maybe I didn't express myself well.
What I mean is that the major part of past Macs was somehow "expected". The fanless MacBook was expected long time before the announce, same for the retina iMac, and same for the retina MacBook Pro.
The Mac Pro is probably out because is made in USA, and its production is even smaller than other Macs.
Back in the days, we were aware ( :D ) that something was coming up.
Today, we only have a couple of rumors, one by Ming-Chi Kuo that is predicting a growth of sales by June with the upgrade of MacBooks, and an old rumor about revamped MacBook Air.

You can see how completely different are this two situations.
Still, as already stated by me and others, we still a month to see rumors and anticipations.
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Are you talking about this one?:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-13-and-15-sizes-coming-at-wwdc-2016.1941509/

The Article says Macbook Air, but I thinks its clearly talking about the rMBP.
 
I hope you didn't think my last post was directed at you. It was just in response to the overall tone of the thread the past week or so.

Tim Cook has said they are doubling down on secrecy and I think we've seen that in some respects.

WRONG said:
Maybe I didn't express myself well.
What I mean is that the major part of past Macs was somehow "expected". The fanless MacBook was expected long time before the announce, same for the retina iMac, and same for the retina MacBook Pro.
The Mac Pro is probably out because is made in USA, and its production is even smaller than other Macs.
Back in the days, we were aware ( :D ) that something was coming up.
Today, we only have a couple of rumors, one by Ming-Chi Kuo that is predicting a growth of sales by June with the upgrade of MacBooks, and an old rumor about revamped MacBook Air.

You can see how completely different are this two situations.
Still, as already stated by me and others, we still a month to see rumors and anticipations.
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Sweeper said:
GP107 (Geforce GTX1050M?) is rumoured to be unveiled in Q4. If they are releasing in June/July they're probably going for Polaris dGPUs.
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With only one Apple laptop using a dGpu I find it hard to believe they would wait for one to be released. They couldn't even wait two more months to update the 15" to broadwell, opting for the same chips as the previous model, just adding faster ssd's and force touch. If anything Apple has proved over the years is that they are consistently late to the game with most of the newest tech.
 
WRONG said:
Yep, exactly this.
I believe too that those are probably the Pros, not Air.
Still it sounds kinda strange, considering it would be its longest "days since last release" time ever.
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I honestly wouldn't be that surprised, though. The iMac and Mac Pro had a ridiculously long release cycle leading up to the redesigns.

What might be happening is that they may be planning to completely replace the rMBP in one go, without keeping the current chassis around.
 
U guys really think they would make the rmbp thinner for some reason.. Thats what the macbooks are here for.. Rmbp is for designers, too much would be compromised if its thinner..
 
that's probably what people were thinking in 2011-12. and yet Apple delivered a thinner machine that still outperformed the previous model across the board. if they thinned down the chassis and shaved off some battery they could still retain battery life with Skylake and contours. perhaps the lid could also get a bit smaller.
 
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Silent before the storm? One month left until you will get a new MacBook Pro or just realise that you have to wait until summer for WWDC.

Thebeat07 said:
U guys really think they would make the rmbp thinner for some reason.. Thats what the macbooks are here for.. Rmbp is for designers, too much would be compromised if its thinner..
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99 % of "designers" can get by with a baseline MacBook. A few layers in PS and 1000 lines of HTML and CSS won't even tip an entry level Atom CPU. What I long for is a more convenient size and weight for my portable workstation.
 
doitdada said:
99 % of "designers" can get by with a baseline MacBook. A few layers in PS and 1000 lines of HTML and CSS won't even tip an entry level Atom CPU. What I long for is a more convenient size and weight for my portable workstation.
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Have you done any design work? Because I can tell you: My cMBP 13'' m2012 doesn't like me working with 30+ print-quality (12MP and up) layers in Photoshop, it doesn't like me do complex graphics in Illustrator, and it doesn't like me creating layouts in InDesign while the high quality preview is activated. And the last time I checked, a Core i5 3210M beat the hell out of any Atom CPU.
 
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doitdada said:
Silent before the storm? One month left until you will get a new MacBook Pro or just realise that you have to wait until summer for WWDC.



99 % of "designers" can get by with a baseline MacBook. A few layers in PS and 1000 lines of HTML and CSS won't even tip an entry level Atom CPU. What I long for is a more convenient size and weight for my portable workstation.
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I'd question your claim that 99% can get by with a baseline MacBook...it isn't the case in my experience though perhaps my sector is part of the 1% and I should switch to Lenovo or something?
 
senthor said:
Have you done any design work?
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Yes, I have. Working with higher DPI and big canvases for print, I can understand the will for power. Still the laptop monitor found in all of the laptops from Apple isn't very suited for non screen media due to lack of colour space. You will need a proper external monitor attached to it, I have a 4K Dell UP3216Q and my i7 4790K CPU is still tested when I work with big 36MP+ RAW files. Still most of the work I do is for the web, and usually light weight compared to print material for buses or billboards. For very large canvases I would prefer to use a desktop rather than a portable device like the cMB 13, because I would also need a display to proof the colours and a quad core processor to handle the big files. One third of the economy is still in print advertising, so I understand that it is a priority for you to keep your business focused on this segment. Still I can't understand why you are still using a cMP 13 for heavy print work. I have tried using anything else than desktops or quad core MacBooks for InDesign, but as you say, the High Quality preview isn't very responsive with a lower end CPU. I am sorry that I overlooked print, it was arrogant of me to believe every designer was working for online products and services, but you have to agree that the numbers are starting to reflect my superstition.

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Seed101 said:
I'd question your claim that 99% can get by with a baseline MacBook...it isn't the case in my experience though perhaps my sector is part of the 1% and I should switch to Lenovo or something?
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If you are working in print, as discussed earlier in this post, the new XPS offerings from Dell is one of the few laptop monitors with sufficient colour depth to do serious print work. It's very high DPI will also help you work with big canvases. It's not that I am trying to sell you another brand, but looking at the specifications, it is a better tool for the job if you are using the built in screen.

And for the record, for serious CAD, video and 3D work quad core, dedicated graphics and an external display is minimum, but I still believe you can go far with any MacBook using code and screen media to create online services and products, even with a MacBook Air from 2010 with 4GB of RAM.
 
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doitdada said:
Yes, I have. Working with higher DPI and big canvases for print, I can understand the will for power. Still the laptop monitor found in all of the laptops from Apple isn't very suited for non screen media due to lack of colour space. You will need a proper external monitor attached to it, I have a 4K Dell UP3216Q and my i7 4790K CPU is still tested when I work with big 36MP+ RAW files. Still most of the work I do is for the web, and usually light weight compared to print material for buses or billboards. For very large canvases I would prefer to use a desktop rather than a portable device like the cMB 13, because I would also need a display to proof the colours and a quad core processor to handle the big files. One third of the economy is still in print advertising, so I understand that it is a priority for you to keep your business focused on this segment. Still I can't understand why you are still using a cMP 13 for heavy print work. I have tried using anything else than desktops or quad core MacBooks for InDesign, but as you say, the High Quality preview isn't very responsive with a lower end CPU. I am sorry that I overlooked print, it was arrogant of me to believe every designer was working for online products and services, but you have to agree that the numbers are starting to reflect my superstition.

aristotle-online-advertising-print2.png




If you are working in print, as discussed earlier in this post, the new XPS offerings from Dell is one of the few laptop monitors with sufficient colour depth to do serious print work. It's very high DPI will also help you work with big canvases. It's not that I am trying to sell you another brand, but looking at the specifications, it is a better tool for the job if you are using the built in screen.
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Sorry I should have stated...I work in animation, After Effects, Premiere, some light 3D...if I freelance on site at marketing agencies/elsewhere it's not uncommon for them to not have either software or hardware so you go in relying on a laptop to get the job done.

I see lots of others in the same boat but yes, maybe we are the 1% overall?

I am currently looking at other options but hoping apple will pull something out of the bag re: power, as I prefer the OS and the reliability I've experienced with macs...so far!
 
doitdada said:
99 % of "designers" can get by with a baseline MacBook. A few layers in PS and 1000 lines of HTML and CSS won't even tip an entry level Atom CPU. What I long for is a more convenient size and weight for my portable workstation.
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In that case, a designer's machine should last a lifetime. You do understand that newer software (operating systems and applications) comes out that taxes those systems more then their predecessors. I've got a maxed out 2012 rMBP that gets sluggish opening tabs in safari (in addition to a few other apps open that don't take much resources like terminal, outlook, Mail).

I suppose 'designer' is relative, but 99% is a bit high to assume they do light web based work.
 
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Seed101 said:
I see lots of others in the same boat but yes, maybe we are the 1% overall?
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I think the number is closer to 10%, still I see a lot of guys carrying 15 inch beasts, that have a usage pattern which could be easily handled by entry level MacBooks. I was the same until I switched to the MacBook. I get about 95% of all work done on my entry level MacBook retina, still I have a desktop for heavy lifting and proofing colour space. Have owned both a rMBP mid 2015 with AMD dGPU and a MacBook 12", it returned it because I loved to bring my MacBook with me everywhere I went, contrary to the rMBP that stayed at home connected to an external display.

I may reconsider getting rid of both the desktop and then selling my MacBook 12", if the new MacBook Pro is light enough and thin enough to make me want to hog it around. A laptop should be as portable as it is powerful, else you should just get the desktop, it will serve you better. Showing off your projects in sales meetings, is excellent usage of the iPad or a baseline MB retina.

shareef777 said:
In that case, a designer's machine should last a lifetime.
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A designers machine should at least bring in enough money for you to switch every 30th month, thats after you have paid for food, housing, office, electricity and toilet paper.

Get a desktop computer or a Mac Pro if you are looking for longevity. Especially if you are in need of massive amounts of storage, GPU power and CPU power. Sandy Bridge is still a strong player coupled with a decent GPU.

The even older Westmere is still keeping up appearances in a Mac Pro from mid 2010
https://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?q=model:"Mac Pro (Mid 2010)" platform:"Mac" processor:"Intel Xeon W3680" frequency:3330 bits:64
 
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shareef777 said:
I've got a maxed out 2012 rMBP that gets sluggish opening tabs in safari (in addition to a few other apps open that don't take much resources like terminal, outlook, Mail).
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As someone who owns a 8 year old laptop, which works flawlessly over W10 and is waiting to buy his first Mac (I don't really need it but for aesthetic and full compatibility with coworkers and clients) Things like that make me wonder ... WTF!

No... seriously... is that even normal on Mac OS X? Maybe you got virus (there are virus for mac), or you need to format your macbook (fresh install is good also on Macs for what I've read) or maybe the famous obsolescence from Apple is real, I don't know, but I refuse to belive that a few new software (system and apps) suddenly transform your 4 year old laptop maxed out into a potato.

Sorry but no, it can be like that. Someone please tell me that OS X doesn't work like that *cries in a corner.
 
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