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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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AirdanMR said:
As someone who owns a 8 year old laptop, which works flawlessly over W10 and is waiting to buy his first Mac (I don't really need it but for aesthetic and full compatibility with coworkers and clients) Things like that make me wonder ... WTF!

No... seriously... is that even normal on Mac OS X? Maybe you got virus (there are virus for mac), or you need to format your macbook (fresh install is good also on Macs for what I've read) or maybe the famous obsolescence from Apple is real, I don't know, but I refuse to belive that a few new software (system and apps) suddenly transform your 4 year old laptop maxed out into a potato.

Sorry but no, it can be like that. Someone please tell me that OS X doesn't work like that *cries in a corner.
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No doubt a fresh install will help. I've never done a clean install on this machine as I'm too lazy to reinstall all my apps and settings. It's not sluggish that impacts my workflow. I just notice when I open a new tab that it can take a second to pop open instead of being instantaneous.
 
shareef777 said:
I just notice when I open a new tab that it can take a second to pop open instead of being instantaneous.
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Do you sync your browsing history over iCloud? I had this issue on an i7 4790k with 32GB RAM, and when I upgraded from 3G to 4G, it was a lot better because of lower latency. Having a fast connection to Internet is becoming as important as having great hardware.
 
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AirdanMR said:
As someone who owns a 8 year old laptop, which works flawlessly over W10 and is waiting to buy his first Mac (I don't really need it but for aesthetic and full compatibility with coworkers and clients) Things like that make me wonder ... WTF!

No... seriously... is that even normal on Mac OS X? Maybe you got virus (there are virus for mac), or you need to format your macbook (fresh install is good also on Macs for what I've read) or maybe the famous obsolescence from Apple is real, I don't know, but I refuse to belive that a few new software (system and apps) suddenly transform your 4 year old laptop maxed out into a potato.

Sorry but no, it can be like that. Someone please tell me that OS X doesn't work like that *cries in a corner.
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I'm still using my early 2008 MBP every day for web browsing and light work like word processing. This thing isn't fast compared to a new maxed out iMac but I wouldn't call this sluggish either. Latest OS X runs really smoothly. I have upgraded to an ssd and 6GB ram though.
 
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doitdada said:
Do you sync your browsing history over iCloud? I had this issue on an i7 4790k with 32GB RAM, and when I upgraded from 3G to 4G, it was a lot better because of lower latency. Having a fast connection to Internet is becoming as important as having great hardware.
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Yeah, I'm syncing to iCloud, but see the delay even when my laptop and phone are both on the same wifi network. It's a 3.5 yo install so it's not that big of a deal for me. Hopefully just a couple more months and I'll have a fresh install ... on a new Mac :)
 
shareef777 said:
No doubt a fresh install will help. I've never done a clean install on this machine as I'm too lazy to reinstall all my apps and settings. It's not sluggish that impacts my workflow. I just notice when I open a new tab that it can take a second to pop open instead of being instantaneous.
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Thank you! I completely misunderstood the other comment! Now i get it. An SSD will help too.
 
volcomvenom said:
I..... want.... skylakeeeeeee!!!!!!!
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Can confirm, you'll get your 18" and bigger rMBP - those a tears of joy btw! :)
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AirdanMR said:
As someone who owns a 8 year old laptop, which works flawlessly over W10 and is waiting to buy his first Mac (I don't really need it but for aesthetic and full compatibility with coworkers and clients) Things like that make me wonder ... WTF!

No... seriously... is that even normal on Mac OS X? Maybe you got virus (there are virus for mac), or you need to format your macbook (fresh install is good also on Macs for what I've read) or maybe the famous obsolescence from Apple is real, I don't know, but I refuse to belive that a few new software (system and apps) suddenly transform your 4 year old laptop maxed out into a potato.

Sorry but no, it can be like that. Someone please tell me that OS X doesn't work like that *cries in a corner.
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I know what you mean. I have a 2008 Dell Inspiron laptop (Core 2 Duo) that was so-so back then and it runs Windows 7/10 pretty well with an SSD and only 3 GB of RAM. I also have a 2007 desktop with a Q6600 Core 2 Quad that runs very well still with an SSD.

To only get a few years out of a $2000 laptop is pretty concerning, if I'm honest. I can't help but wonder if it's an OS X thing and those machines would run Windows perfectly well still.
 
Altis said:
I know what you mean. I have a 2008 Dell Inspiron laptop (Core 2 Duo) that was so-so back then and it runs Windows 7/10 pretty well with an SSD and only 3 GB of RAM. I also have a 2007 desktop with a Q6600 Core 2 Quad that runs very well still with an SSD.

To only get a few years out of a $2000 laptop is pretty concerning, if I'm honest. I can't help but wonder if it's an OS X thing and those machines would run Windows perfectly well still.
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I'm telling you. It's definitely not an OS X thing. I don't know what they've been doing. But it sure sounds like they have some services or something running in the background from old applications that don't run well and cause issues. I've had similar things in the past. After various OS updates some of my system extensions where just causing problems. You could see it in the Console. "blah blah is trying to run. Failed. Trying again in 5 secs…" something like that.

Other than that…
Is OS X low maintenance? Yes. Especially compared to all the things you have to take care of with Windows.
Is OS X NO maintenance. Most likely no.
If you leave the systerm how it is out of the box. Only install some other software, but nothing that runs in the background or extends your OS… then you might actually not have to worry about anything for a long long time.
If you tinker a lot… you'll have to fix more.

Case in point:
I have an early 2011 17" MBP. Before that another MBP and a MB.
The last fresh install I did was on my MacBook with I presume OS X 10.5 (may have been 10.4 even).
From there I went to 10.6, 10.7, 10.8, 10.9, 10.10, 10.11 (including betas since 10.7), migrating across these 3 machines.
And with some fixing done by me in the background it runs as good as a fresh install.
 
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My new updated expectations,

-14.4",
-2.5gb VRAM,
-Edge to edge display,
-non-touch 4k display,
-700ppi,
-Battery indicator on left side,
-leave out the TB3 put 3 or more USB Type-C ports and sd card reader,
-Retina MacBook-like design but thinner (j/k),
-with 12 hour battery,
-16mp isight camera,
-Butterfly keyboard with more spunk,
-Free 3 year applecare built in,
-512gb ssd even faster than 2gb/s read and write.
-last but not least 16gb ram starting config.
 
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TheralSadurns said:
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Other than that…
Is OS X low maintenance? Yes. Especially compared to all the things you have to take care of with Windows.
Is OS X NO maintenance. Most likely no.
If you leave the systerm how it is out of the box. Only install some other software, but nothing that runs in the background or extends your OS… then you might actually not have to worry about anything for a long long time.
If you tinker a lot… you'll have to fix more...
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Just curious what kinds of things really need maintenance in Windows? I run updates but that's about it, and only because I've set it so that they aren't automatic. I don't do much else or different on the Mac.

I like having a little more control over the updates, as well, in Windows 7, but Windows 10 seems to be moving away from that and into forced updates and reduced ability to revert.
 
PKBeam said:
maybe in one of the alternate universes where Apple and Dell/MS swapped places.
not in this one though. If they really wanted to go touchscreen they'd do it with the rMB.
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I just read it on the net that Apple plans to do that. Let's wait and see next month.
 
Airmaxone said:
Is it true that the next macbook pro would have touch screen capabilities. I'm not really a big fan of the touch screen.
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I don't think that a touch screen would make sense. OS X and all of its apps are not designed for the use of touch.

They are optimized for keyboard shortcuts and trackpad (multitouch) gestures.
And it is not very comfortable to use the big touch screen, it is so far away if you compare it to an iPad or iPhone.
I enjoy using keyboard shortcuts and trackpad gestures (which are deeply integrated in OS X which makes them very intuitive and consistent in any application).

BUT what if Apple integrated an iPad Pro into our Skylake MacBooks? Like in normal environment you won't notice that this is an iPad because it is attached to your macbook body and acts as a normal screen…but suddenly if you grab it it converts to an iPad Pro with iOS Touch Interface.
 
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