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So my current laptop wouldn't wait for Skylake, so just grabbed a 15" Toshiba 256 SSD for about $500 at Microcenter. 2 USB 3 ports and about 7 1/2 hours battery life before I plug it in with 10% remaining. Not a bad machine. I call it the interim machine before MBP Skylake ready in (September?)
 
I have a new hypothesis.

If the new laptops will utilize Siri / Touch ID / Apple Pay (all flagship Apple features that have been mysteriously missing from Macs), something that will require changes of both hardware and software, OS X 10.12 may be what we're really waiting for; it's the last missing piece. It may have been easier to build all of this into the next version of OS X, rather than do an El Cap update. Siri would certainly change the OS X experience heavily.

Think about iPhones; they launch parallel to the new iOS. You get two brand new products in one and get that harmony of the hardware supporting the software, and vice versa.

So why haven't we seen a refresh yet? Why no quad-core Broadwell? Because there's more to these laptops than we've been thinking. You can't release a 13" rMBP in March with Touch ID without a significant software change, right? If there is a new Touch ID / Siri / Apple Pay / Home button on these machines, it'd require a change to the unibody, hence the redesign. But, the function of this button will be deeply rooted in the OS, hence the need for OS X 10.12. You have all of these available improvements:
  1. New laptop design language (rMB): USB-C, color options, new keyboard, new battery tech
  2. Skylake processors, with new I/O options for TB3
  3. Introduction of Home Button features: Touch ID, Apple Pay, Siri
1 & 2 are ready to go. If 3 relies on a new OS X version, June makes sense.

This would make the wait more than worth it.
 
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siri and touchid makes sense (toucid makes sense only if its in the lid somewhere to be Apple easy-quick to unlock sensation) but the apple pay ?? do you go with your laptop to pay?
the apple watch still is the easiest way to pay, than the iphone
 
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Jj237 said:
How can they be so sure ?!

"Has been unveiled"

"The release date of Apple's Macbook Pro and Macbook Air 2016 has been unveiled to be in June, at the WWDC event."

http://www.parentherald.com/article...ed-in-june-battery-to-last-up-to-12-hours.htm
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Simply: they are not.
Once again,
- Parent Herald
- Master Herald
- everything Herald
- Latinos Health
and others that I don't remember at the moment are just clickbait website.
Do not read them, do not click on them, do not trust them.

@Dydegu that's really an interesting prevision, and it would (sadly) completely make a lot of sense for the WWDC16.
I can already see the presentation of the new OSX, and consequently the hardware taking advantage of it.
 
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Dydegu said:
I have a new hypothesis.

If the new laptops will utilize Siri / Touch ID / Apple Pay (all flagship Apple features that have been mysteriously missing from Macs), something that will require changes of both hardware and software, OS X 10.12 may be what we're really waiting for; it's the last missing piece. It may have been easier to build all of this into the next version of OS X, rather than do an El Cap update. Siri would certainly change the OS X experience heavily.

Think about iPhones; they launch parallel to the new iOS. You get two brand new products in one and get that harmony of the hardware supporting the software, and vice versa.

So why haven't we seen a refresh yet? Why no quad-core Broadwell? Because there's more to these laptops than we've been thinking. You can't release a 13" rMBP in March with Touch ID without a significant software change, right? If there is a new Touch ID / Siri / Apple Pay / Home button on these machines, it'd require a change to the unibody, hence the redesign. But, the function of this button will be deeply rooted in the OS, hence the need for OS X 10.12. You have all of these available improvements:
  1. New laptop design language (rMB): USB-C, color options, new keyboard, new battery tech
  2. Skylake processors, with new I/O options for TB3
  3. Introduction of Home Button features: Touch ID, Apple Pay, Siri
1 & 2 are ready to go. If 3 relies on a new OS X version, June makes sense.

This would make the wait more than worth it.
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This is amazing. This makes the most sence. March is just too soon without having heard a single thing.

Siri would be so useful, I have had countless of occasions where I needed the feature, but had to grab my phone instead.
I said it before and I'll say it again, my predictions are WWDC. Although march would be amazing, it seems too good to be true
 
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i prefer WWDC with a lot of changes like siri maybe a little redesign maybe even touchid on the lid than just the usual cpu upgrade on march
 
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Siri on the mac leaves me completely cold. I find Siri so frequently inaccurate that I will always use a keyboard instead if I have one. Touch id is fine, but not super compelling. How long does it take to type a password versus fumbling for the thumb print reader? I'm really excited for smaller, lighter, faster, and with modern ports. If we don't get that, maybe my current computer can make it for another year.
 
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Baldrake said:
Siri on the mac leaves me completely cold. I find Siri so frequently inaccurate that I will always use a keyboard instead if I have one. Touch id is fine, but not super compelling. How long does it take to type a password versus fumbling for the thumb print reader? I'm really excited for smaller, lighter, faster, and with modern ports. If we don't get that, maybe my current computer can make it for another year.
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siri for writers will be night and day, touchid in the lid? you don;t like the idea? since you lift up the lid the mac is already unlocked like iphone when you wakeup the screen with touchid. So your password can be very complex but with a touch you just unlock it. Anywhere else the touchid is pointless, i hate the surface pro 4 touchid, is not ergonomic its just another finger print sensor we see for decades
 
Dell XPS 13 with Core i7-6560U (Iris Graphics 540) now available to buy in the US - GT3e...

Slowly moving towards the GT4e getting released
 
Serban said:
siri for writers will be night and day, touchid in the lid? you don;t like the idea? since you lift up the lid the mac is already unlocked like iphone when you wakeup the screen with touchid. So your password can be very complex but with a touch you just unlock it.
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Re Siri - why is this night and day for writers? MacOS already supports dictation - which I sometimes use and like (but it could be more accurate.)

Re touch id - it's not that I don't like it, it just isn't that exciting to me, certainly not something I would upgrade for.
 
Baldrake said:
Re Siri - why is this night and day for writers? MacOS already supports dictation - which I sometimes use and like (but it could be more accurate.)

Re touch id - it's not that I don't like it, it just isn't that exciting to me, certainly not something I would upgrade for.
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I agree. I already use dictation for writing. While I do wish it was more accurate (it's good enough) - I don't notice Siri to be any different than the dictation in OS X.
 
I'm not gonna even ask that much Apple.
All I want is
32 GB ram option
color options
thinner bezels, width, and lighter weight
At least a 10 hour battery on the 15 inch
TB/3, USB C
4k or 5k resolution
 
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Serban said:
siri for writers will be night and day, touchid in the lid? you don;t like the idea? since you lift up the lid the mac is already unlocked like iphone when you wakeup the screen with touchid. So your password can be very complex but with a touch you just unlock it. Anywhere else the touchid is pointless, i hate the surface pro 4 touchid, is not ergonomic its just another finger print sensor we see for decades
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Touch ID on the lid makes sense for unlocking the computer but not as much sense if they introduced Apple Pay.

Dydegu said:
I have a new hypothesis.

If the new laptops will utilize Siri / Touch ID / Apple Pay (all flagship Apple features that have been mysteriously missing from Macs), something that will require changes of both hardware and software, OS X 10.12 may be what we're really waiting for; it's the last missing piece. It may have been easier to build all of this into the next version of OS X, rather than do an El Cap update. Siri would certainly change the OS X experience heavily.

Think about iPhones; they launch parallel to the new iOS. You get two brand new products in one and get that harmony of the hardware supporting the software, and vice versa.

So why haven't we seen a refresh yet? Why no quad-core Broadwell? Because there's more to these laptops than we've been thinking. You can't release a 13" rMBP in March with Touch ID without a significant software change, right? If there is a new Touch ID / Siri / Apple Pay / Home button on these machines, it'd require a change to the unibody, hence the redesign. But, the function of this button will be deeply rooted in the OS, hence the need for OS X 10.12. You have all of these available improvements:
  1. New laptop design language (rMB): USB-C, color options, new keyboard, new battery tech
  2. Skylake processors, with new I/O options for TB3
  3. Introduction of Home Button features: Touch ID, Apple Pay, Siri
1 & 2 are ready to go. If 3 relies on a new OS X version, June makes sense.

This would make the wait more than worth it.
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OS X doesn't typically launch in June. Typically launches in September or October. They simply preview it in June. They could always just update El Cap to support the hardware specific functionality though, which is usually what they do when the hardware has new features.
 
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bfid111 said:
I'm not gonna even ask that much Apple.
All I want is
32 GB ram option
color options
thinner bezels, width, and lighter weight
At least a 10 hour battery on the 15 inch
TB/3, USB C
4k or 5k resolution
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Whats the point of 4k on 15 inch ?? Consume more battery and it's hardly to notice difference from 2880 x 1800 on 15''
 
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