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What all is happening in March Event? iPad Air 3, 4-inch iPhone, that doesn't seem like enough for an event. So that leads me to believe, that there will be new Macs. However, since there have been so few rumors, leaks, anything lately is leaving me very skeptical.

Also I will be receiving vaio z flip tomorrow. So if anyone wants to know anythign in particular about the performance of iris 550. Let Me know.
OK, I consider buying it rather than Surface Pro 4... Iris 550 and 28w CPU sound fantastic to me.
 
Seems like no one have read my precedent post...
The point of upgrading to Skylake now and then redesign coming in June could be because of Apple adding another portable-computer line, the MacBook-something.

Anyway this is just my theory, since now we can just wait for three weeks and see what's happen.

Nope, I try to read all the posts but since I sometimes do it in a random order I unintentionally skip some of them. Wait, did you say refresh in March and redesign in June? I guess you meant in the fall.

... in Safari I get infected WTF never had a virus in 8 years. The dock bar is far behind from W10 taskbar for example when you pin APPs, OS X doesn't show recent files used for the APP. You can unistall APPs like chess I mean seriously? There's no right click create document (I use this a lot) only folders,
... but after testing the software I'm not sure if I should keep waiting at this point...

I agree with most of GUI/API stuff, it needs to be improved in that shorcuts and useful ways like windows has. But I think the virus stuff was just a fake addition to make your story more dramatic. How the hell you never got infected in 8 years of Windows (by your statements I understood it was first time you use OSX) and got infected after a fist test of OSX? Looking for normal software? Or your navigation habits are far from being safe (which doesn't explain how you never got infected in Windows), or you installed some trash software like MacCleaner that alerts you like "hey, you got infected dude!".
 
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USB-A to USB-C is still an adapter. I suppose people's concerns are when you carry around USB drives that have the connector built in (like USB sticks). To me, it's not that big a deal to just carry a small 6" adapter.
It's really not an adapter though. It's a cable.
 
Are you loading Microsoft Word in Safari? There's obviously something going on, but it's not a problem with OS X as I use the full office suite in Safari without any issues.

As for showing recent files, I see recent files in almost every app I use (Microsoft Office, Pages, Numbers, Safari, etc). That feature is dependent on the developer configuring their app to display recent docs. It's the same exact thing in all Windows versions. Many older legacy apps I used in Windows don't show anything when right clicking the icon in the task bar.

I'm also able to right click without any issue. I'd bet it's more of a hackintosh issue then it is an OS X issue.
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I hope they go TB3/USBC only. It's bound to happen eventually.

I was trying to find a trial version for Office, couldn't find anything on the APP store, so I search it on Safari, enter a few webs, pop-ups adds started to show and I couldn't just close them, had to click on cancel window and boom, localhost process with 100% CPU usage, my screen went on a LSD travel and of course I wasn't able to restart or stop the process lol

But how do you show recent files on the dock APPs? Maybe I was doing it wrong, I was trying right click over the APPs and also letting the mouse over it for a seconds but didn't work.

I was able to right click, but only option was to create a folder, not documents. Anyway I think I could live without that

EDIT. Sorry for this big Off-topic
 
News from the rumor mill:

Thunderbolt is replaced with and integrated in USB-C (corrected).

Thunderbolt is NOT being replaced by USB-C. Usb-C uses Thunderbolt technology. Thunderbolt is the name of a protocol, and usb-c is the name of a physcial connector.



I hope they go TB3/USBC only. It's bound to happen eventually.

I too hope this.

Wait, you guys want the usb type A port to go away on the next iteration of MacBook Pro?
Why? Also, even if you don't even use it, how does it hurt to have the port on the computer?

Also, Apple will not get rid of USB Type-A on their Macbook Pro any time soon. They will still have USB type-A for another 3-5++ years still.


I highly doubt this.

you seriously think Apple is going to remove USB A ports on the MacBook Pros? No ha

March event:
iPad Air 3, iPhone 5se, watchbands, updated MacBooks 12 and 14 inch

WWDC:
new MacBook Pro 16 inch, new MacPro, new Mac Mini and news iOS and OSX

Yea, I am afraid you may be right, even though I really want the rMBPs in March.

But the question is will the 14" Macbook, have Core M (4.5w) or will it have U processors (15W) to be a true replacement for the MacBook Air series, this would also mean the 14" Macbook would have to have a fan and be slightly thicker
 
Wait, you guys want the usb type A port to go away on the next iteration of MacBook Pro?
Why? Also, even if you don't even use it, how does it hurt to have the port on the computer?
Takes up space that could be used for a better port.





Also, Apple will not get rid of USB Type-A on their Macbook Pro any time soon. They will still have USB type-A for another 3-5++ years still.

you seriously think Apple is going to remove USB A ports on the MacBook Pros? No ha

What makes you think Apple would keep it?
 
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Takes up space that could be used for a better port.


What makes you think Apple would keep it?
It's not like there is a lack of space for ports. Especially since usb c ports are much smaller, and especially if the charging port goes away.

It blows my mind that there are people in this world that don't need a usb A port. Yet, I am a rational person and I understand there are many people with different computing needs, so I accept that there are some people who don't need a USB A port. However, most of the world desperately still needs a USB A port. So many devices and peripherals are all still usb A. Enough, so that Apple will not require an adapter to use all them.

I am also hoping the HDMI port stays, I agree thunderbolt/ usb-c is far superior. But I am hoping hdmi port stays. But I will not be surprised if apple kills that
 
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I am also hoping the HDMI port stays, I agree thunderbolt/ usb-c is far superior. But I am hoping hdmi port stays. But I will not be surprised if apple kills that

I don't really see the point of HDMI ports anymore, some old monitors use them, but then you can get an adapter. and TVs, well Apple would rather sell you an AppleTV or an adapter, plus it would look a lot better design wise if the ports were all the same size and as we know apple are very big on that also
 
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Thunderbolt is NOT being replaced by USB-C. Usb-C uses Thunderbolt technology. Thunderbolt is the name of a protocol, and usb-c is the name of a physcial connector.







Wait, you guys want the usb type A port to go away on the next iteration of MacBook Pro?
Why? Also, even if you don't even use it, how does it hurt to have the port on the computer?

Also, Apple will not get rid of USB Type-A on their Macbook Pro any time soon. They will still have USB type-A for another 3-5++ years still.




you seriously think Apple is going to remove USB A ports on the MacBook Pros? No ha



Yea, I am afraid you may be right, even though I really want the rMBPs in March.

But the question is will the 14" Macbook, have Core M (4.5w) or will it have U processors (15W) to be a true replacement for the MacBook Air series, this would also mean the 14" Macbook would have to have a fan and be slightly thicker

Not really hoping it goes away, just that they provide more then 1 TB3/USBC port. If it comes at the cost of USBA, id be ok with it. I get it'll be around for a few more years, but USBC devices will be prevalent by end of year so I'd rather have my laptop provide multiple ports to support them (Network cards, drives, monitors).
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I was trying to find a trial version for Office, couldn't find anything on the APP store, so I search it on Safari, enter a few webs, pop-ups adds started to show and I couldn't just close them, had to click on cancel window and boom, localhost process with 100% CPU usage, my screen went on a LSD travel and of course I wasn't able to restart or stop the process lol

But how do you show recent files on the dock APPs? Maybe I was doing it wrong, I was trying right click over the APPs and also letting the mouse over it for a seconds but didn't work.

I was able to right click, but only option was to create a folder, not documents. Anyway I think I could live without that

EDIT. Sorry for this big Off-topic

Topic is skylake MacBooks and NO ONE has any info, so I think we're good going off-topic.

You can get office from products.office.com. You likely went to a phishing site that had you install malware. If you go to any site that shows multiple download icons, LEAVE!

For recent items you can right click the app icon in the dock after its opened. You can also go into system preferences and into General to enable system wide recents for apps and documents (it'll show up as a menu item under the Apple menu).
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It's not like there is a lack of space for ports. Especially since usb c ports are much smaller, and especially if the charging port goes away.

It blows my mind that there are people in this world that don't need a usb A port. Yet, I am a rational person and I understand there are many people with different computing needs, so I accept that there are some people who don't need a USB A port. However, most of the world desperately still needs a USB A port. So many devices and peripherals are all still usb A. Enough, so that Apple will not require an adapter to use all them.

I am also hoping the HDMI port stays, I agree thunderbolt/ usb-c is far superior. But I am hoping hdmi port stays. But I will not be surprised if apple kills that

VGA/Ethernet were removed without so much of a sigh from consumers. I can see that happening for USBA. At the end of the day, it's been done already (rMB). Apple was also the first to take out floppies and CD drives when they were still widely in use and available in every other product.

If anything, I'd like them to change the iPhone to USBC as well so I can eventually use a single cable to charge all my devices.
 
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I don't really see the point of HDMI ports anymore, some old monitors use them, but then you can get an adapter. and TVs, well Apple would rather sell you an AppleTV or an adapter, plus it would look a lot better design wise if the ports were all the same size and as we know apple are very big on that also

some old monitors use them??
What world are you living in? HDMI is the most common main stream monitor port. And It is mainstream for TVs. and projectors too. Sure apple would rather sell you an adapter of a apple TV, bu that's not the point. We are not talking about what apple wants, we are talking about what consumers want. and Also, an HDMI port you can plug into any tv / monitor/ projector wherever you go.... You are not going to buy 10 apple tvs and place them everywhere you might possibly want to send video from your laptop to screen. Also, you are not always going to have adapter with you. And its a pain to have to keep track of an adapter.

All this being said: I do not think apple removes ports to make money off selling adapters, there are much more complex reasons to this.

And I do think it is very possible that Apple will get rid of HDMI on the MacBook Pro, I was actually surprised to see it there in the first place when the rMBP was released.

Not really hoping it goes away, just that they provide more then 1 TB3/USBC port. If it comes at the cost of USBA, id be ok with it. I get it'll be around for a few more years, but USBC devices will be prevalent by end of year so I'd rather have my laptop provide multiple ports to support them (Network cards, drives, monitors).


VGA/Ethernet were removed without so much of a sigh from consumers. I can see that happening for USBA. At the end of the day, it's been done already (rMB). Apple was also the first to take out floppies and CD drives when they were still widely in use and available in every other product.

If anything, I'd like them to change the iPhone to USBC as well so I can eventually use a single cable to charge all my devices.


Ok, I also hope they provide more than 1 TB3/USBC port, which I am sure they will. And I can almost agree that I would rather more of those ports at the cost of a USBA port. At the end of this year, USBA will still be far more prevalent than USBC, and it will be the same next year. You over estimating the adoption of USBC. Heck I even think I overestimate the adoption of USB C.

Yes, VGA and ethernet went away, but at the time they went away, which I remember well, devices that used them, and the frequency of them getting used was not as frequent/common as USB-A is Today.

I also think iPhone should switch to USB-C. though, I am afraid that may not happen til iPhone 8. ... or not at all.... since USB-C would make the iPhone thicker?
 
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hello again Franku.
I was wondering what is worse: Filthy Frank challenges OR waiting for Skylake?

Nothing is filthier than Franku. Now don't even get me started on our dark lord Chin Chin.....
This wait is a piece of cake compared to all the filth from the abortion clinic that is Papa Franku's channel
 
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I think everyone is getting their panties in a knot. USB-C will make an appearance and low and behold there will be more than 1 of them, it's called replacing the current Thunderbolt 2 ports with Thunderbolt 3 ports. Thunderbolt 3 uses the USB-C connector and is fully compatible with USB-C.
USB-A is overwhelmingly prevalent in the world today, there is no way it is disappearing this year or next year. I mean, please show me 10 manufacturers that are going all in on USB-C for everyone of their new devices from thumb drives to external drives and display devices - I mean it's not in their interest as it's not commonly accessible to the average Joe yet.

HDMI surprised me when it was included, however I see this staying if the design isn't changed drastically with 2.0a compatibility. When Apple does change the form of the MacBook Pro I think this will disappear or become a 2.0a mini HDMI port. This would be almost useless though as it would require an adapter - although it would relieve the pressure of adding a further expensive Thunderbolt port. Can you even have 3 Thunderbolt ports on a laptop motherboard??

I think half the forum needs to take a deep breath and understand that somethings that are being talked about are unlikely and some just plain unrealistic. 14 and 16 inch screens are unlikely, I like the idea and with an increase in usable area through increased resolution I would be extremely happy. Getting rid of all USB-A ports, now that's just unrealistic in the present day.
 
I think half the forum needs to take a deep breath and understand that somethings that are being talked about are unlikely and some just plain unrealistic.

Agreed. The amounted of frustrated energy building up in here is palpable. We should all chill out and hope for the best (whatever that happens to be for each of us :p )
 
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I think half the forum needs to take a deep breath and understand that somethings that are being talked about are unlikely and some just plain unrealistic.

Like a June Release.

<<mic drop>>

Can you even have 3 Thunderbolt ports on a laptop motherboard??

You can have as many as there is space on the mobo for, though for the alpine ridge controllers that Apple uses typically run in pairs, so if they will add three, they can throw in a 4th as long as there is space.
And ya know, power.
 
1) Yes. 2) They have USB-A to USB-C cables so that you won't need an adapter 3) Sd cards aren't the same as USB.

I highly doubt this.

Sorry I assumed with the new macbook not having an SD slot it would be on the adapter, I thought i seen that somewhere, but just checked and it's not.

You might want to look up the term adapter.

Wouldn't be surprised if most switch to USB-C in the next iteration, with maybe a legacy -A port. Apple jumps on the train quickly.

This would be too quick, USB-A is still widely used.

It's really not an adapter though. It's a cable.

Again, please look up the term adapter.. "a device for connecting pieces of equipment that cannot be connected directly."

It doesn't really matter if it's a cable, box, whatever..

Takes up space that could be used for a better port.

What makes you think Apple would keep it?

Define 'better' .. what benefits are being provided by forcing you to use an adapter every time you wanted to connect a USB-A device, and believe me, we'll be using that connector for a long time to come yet. I know Apple loves this 'wireless world' vision but it doesn't get around the fact we need these ports still.... You're getting absolutely no benefit by removing the port.

It's not like there is a lack of space for ports. Especially since usb c ports are much smaller, and especially if the charging port goes away.

It blows my mind that there are people in this world that don't need a usb A port. Yet, I am a rational person and I understand there are many people with different computing needs, so I accept that there are some people who don't need a USB A port. However, most of the world desperately still needs a USB A port. So many devices and peripherals are all still usb A. Enough, so that Apple will not require an adapter to use all them.

I am also hoping the HDMI port stays, I agree thunderbolt/ usb-c is far superior. But I am hoping hdmi port stays. But I will not be surprised if apple kills that

Sometimes I think half this forum are happy to accept inconvenience, minor yes, but still an inconvenience just so they can say they have something, some of the ideas they come up with are so far fetched it laughable... I have usb thumb drives, usb hard drives, midi controllers, dj equipment, usb super drive.. I don't want to be whipping out additional cables just to use these devices. It might seem trivial to complain over a small cable or whatever but there is simply no need for it.

all of this said, it is Apple, and they don't have any issues forcing something on us:D
 
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Like a June Release.

<<mic drop>>



You can have as many as there is space on the mobo for, though for the alpine ridge controllers that Apple uses typically run in pairs, so if they will add three, they can throw in a 4th as long as there is space.
And ya know, power.

There will be max 2 Thunderbolt3 connectors. They require 4xPCIe lanes a pair and those are limited in number (16 from CPU for the "highends", 12 for midrange, 10 for lowend. And i think 20 from the PCH).
 
You might want to look up the term adapter.
Oh thanks.

Again, please look up the term adapter.. "a device for connecting pieces of equipment that cannot be connected directly."

It doesn't really matter if it's a cable, box, whatever..
You may want to look up the definition of "directly." If two devices are connected by a single cable, and there is no device in between them, they are connected "directly."

1. In a direct line or manner; straight: The road runs directlynorth.
2. Without anyone or anything intervening: directly responsible.

If one thing or person interacts directly with another thing or person, there is nothing or nobody between them.

So no, if you have a cable that can connect two things directly, it's not an adapter. It's a cable.

Define 'better' .. what benefits are being provided by forcing you to use an adapter every time you wanted to connect a USB-A device, and believe me, we'll be using that connector for a long time to come yet. I know Apple loves this 'wireless world' vision but it doesn't get around the fact we need these ports still.... You're getting absolutely no benefit by removing the port.
USB-C is better because it's reversible, faster, and smaller. For the devices I need to use that have USB-A, I can get an adapter or new cables for (Mostly external HDDs).
 
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Also I will be receiving vaio z flip tomorrow. So if anyone wants to know anythign in particular about the performance of iris 550. Let Me know.

Where are those essentials benchmarks ? Handbrake - quick sync - sample video of your choice in h264 profile 10 and hvec 265 etc :)
 
I'm still in for a march refresh, and possibly a redesign.
Why?
  • We have the longest wait between updates ever. Usually, Apple updates the MBP every 8 months; We're at 12 and 10. June would be 15 and 13.
  • Broadwell. Intel introduced appropriate Broadwell chips for the 15'' just a week after the Force Touch. Upgrading to Broadwell would not have been much work for Apple, as the architecture is mostly the same as Haswell. So Apple must have had good reason to skip Broadwell, and waiting another 13 months is no good reason. (Waiting another 10 months is no good idea either.)
  • Competition. At MWC and GDC all companies introduce new hardware, while Apple's Mac lineup is mostly outdated.
So, why do people think March is unlikely?
  • WWDC is the bigger event. It sure is, but Apple will have to present for OSes, and additionally refreshing the whole Mac lineup and introducing redesigns does not bring much more publicity. But introducing new Macs in march will broaden interest, because otherwise the event would be Mac-less.
  • We have not leaks / rumors. We don't need them, as Mac has a much smaller volume than iPhone / iPad / even Watch. It is fairly plausible to have no rumors (or even leaks) at this point.
  • Polaris / Pascal. We don't exactly know when the next-gen dGPUs will be available. It seems plausible for Apple to drop the dGPU option at all. And even if Apple wants to wait for new chips, they could stagger the launch not accross the 13'' and 15'' models, but between the high-volume iGPU-15'' and the low-volume dGPU-15'' model. Nobody cares if the topped-out version is only available a few weeks after the other options.
 
I don't see the point of refreshing with Skylake and then redesigning again with Skylake, if they have planned to redesign them with Skylake (quite probable) instead of Kabylake/Cannonlake or whatever comes next, the redesign will be all in once with the release of Skylake Macbooks. Why would Apple do a minor refresh knowing their redesign obsesion, now that they could do it with Skylake? It's like wasting a good oportunity. I see more probable a redesign now, and a minor refresh in the fall/early next year before next CPU gen that will probably be delayed a year like Haswell-Broadwell story.

Don't get me wrong, a re-design / refresh all in one and ASAP would be awesome. I just don't see that in March.

The point of refreshing now was outlined in my post. Would you rather have nothing until the summer/fall or a refresh now and then a redesign in the summer/fall?

I'm just thinking of all possible scenarios. If the redesign is going to be truly radical, we might need to wait just a little longer for them. A refresh now would abate the current immense hunger for new MacBooks and would be good for Apple showing that they aren't increasingly slow in refreshing.
 
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Don't get me wrong, a re-design / refresh all in one and ASAP would be awesome. I just don't see that in March.

The point of refreshing now was outlined in my post. Would you rather have nothing until the summer/fall or a refresh now and then a redesign in the summer/fall?

I'm just thinking of all possible scenarios. If the redesign is going to be truly radical, we might need to wait just a little longer for them. A refresh now would abate the current immense hunger for new MacBooks and would be good for Apple showing that they aren't increasingly slow in refreshing.
Why do we have to wait longer for a redesign?
Apple has already worked on it for years, so March would be a great date to release it!
 
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