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if they remove USB-A then HDMI and MagSafe 2 are probably going as well.

like, they could just shave a bit off the bottom. it's still thinner.
 
No, it's not.

Yes it is, as a single Thunderbolt port combines USB, Thunderbolt, DisplayPort, PCI Express and power. So basically it's an all-in-one that includes USB itself. Using "normal" USB-C ports on laptops will only be justified because of costs (it being cheaper than Thunderbolt), otherwise there would be no reason to use them instead of Thunderbolt 3 ports.
Thunderbolt didn't become famous because of its costs, and especially because of not sharing the same port type as the "main standard" USB (type A till USB C becomes the new one), so people had to buy expensive adaptors, and manufacturers had to do products appart only for thunderbolt. Now anyone with an USB C device will use it in a thunderbolt port, plus being able to use thunderbolt devices too, without the need for extra adaptors (let's suppose USB C ports/adapters will have become common by then).
 
Not sure what I will do if the next iteration (whenever that is) is just a spec bump. I really want TouchID built-in, I'm so completely spoiled with 1Password+TouchID on my iPhone. That said, I've been languishing for a long time. My last computer purchase? A Dell Studio i7 laptop in 2009. That's relegated to a general-purpose machine in the basement. I have a 2014 rMBP that I take to/from work. But since it's a work machine I can't really make it my own. (I've been using Windows since 3.1, it only took Windows 8 to sour me on that platform and not win me back even with W10, but it's largely unavoidable due to my job)

For a while I was hoping for a new (powerful) Mac Mini. I figured I'd have one glorious day where I get a new Mini as my main "always on" machine + iTunes server, Time Machine server, etc. Add to that a rMB as my lightweight laptop that sits next to a new iPad Air 3 or iPad Pro (to replace my old iPad 3) near the sofa.

But right now I'd be happy with a new loaded rMBP as my only computer. But it seems like we're in a Zeno's Paradox trying to reach the line when the new rMPB presents itself. :)
 
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We need an announcement. This delay is not good for pro users.

If I had known about this delay, I would have bought this time last year.

If it's delayed till WWDC with Q3 launch, Apple will give away market share to others and will no longer have a best-in-class device. In fact, Apple are already haemorrhaging customers and giving companies like Dell a foothold in a market segment that Apple created, nurtured and expanded.

I was hoping for a March launch. But at this stage, I'd be OK with a March announcement with hardware delayed until WWDC. Apple is so big now. Their priority is phones and apps. What about developers? Those who create apps and content? It seems the priority is on those who consume content. That's not the Apple way in my view. Apple as a company is now in "sweating the asset" phase. They are holding off on bold innovations and aggressive product release schedules that competitors can't keep up with.
 
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Notebook Check now has a bit more information on the Intel Iris Pro P580 graphics, claiming it should be comparable to a dedicated Nvidia GeForce 945M! That would mean a typical benchmark score of around 2500 (3DMark (2013) - Fire Strike Standard Score 1920x1080), compared to the Iris Pro 5200 in the current rMBP 15" score of around 1500. The dedicated AMD Radeon M370X on the current rMBP 15" high-end model scores 2350 points in this benchmark.

So we're looking at an integrated graphics solution that's faster than the current top-of-the-line dedicated GPU in the 15" rMBP model. Add Skylake quad-core CPU's and the new thunderbolt 3 protocol, couple with a potential redesign, and I'm sold.
 
Notebook Check now has a bit more information on the Intel Iris Pro P580 graphics, claiming it should be comparable to a dedicated Nvidia GeForce 945M! That would mean a typical benchmark score of around 2500 (3DMark (2013) - Fire Strike Standard Score 1920x1080), compared to the Iris Pro 5200 in the current rMBP 15" score of around 1500. The dedicated AMD Radeon M370X on the current rMBP 15" high-end model scores 2350 points in this benchmark.

So we're looking at an integrated graphics solution that's faster than the current top-of-the-line dedicated GPU in the 15" rMBP model. Add Skylake quad-core CPU's and the new thunderbolt 3 protocol, couple with a potential redesign, and I'm sold.

These are great results for an iGPU. I'm even more convinced now that Apple will drop the dGPU from the 15" in order to realize a more significant redesign.
 
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Uh, thanks for the explanation but I just posted the exact same thing in post 5517. Where did I say otherwise?

Yeah, and that's why Mattsasa said you were giving him the reason. And yet I've told the same with different explanation since you didn't seem to get the point.
 
Notebook Check now has a bit more information on the Intel Iris Pro P580 graphics, claiming it should be comparable to a dedicated Nvidia GeForce 945M! That would mean a typical benchmark score of around 2500 (3DMark (2013) - Fire Strike Standard Score 1920x1080), compared to the Iris Pro 5200 in the current rMBP 15" score of around 1500. The dedicated AMD Radeon M370X on the current rMBP 15" high-end model scores 2350 points in this benchmark.

So we're looking at an integrated graphics solution that's faster than the current top-of-the-line dedicated GPU in the 15" rMBP model. Add Skylake quad-core CPU's and the new thunderbolt 3 protocol, couple with a potential redesign, and I'm sold.

Saw them. They look great, but still I would like to see real benchmark from them.
Also, isn't P580 the GPU from the Xeon CPU, so a little bit more powerful than the "normal" Iris 580?
Anyway, even if this iGPUs look great, I still want to see a decent dGPU inside the MBP, and I'm really hoping for Polaris.

Speaking of other things: 9to5mac and MacRumors frontpage are sad as hell: every ****ing news is about iPhone, iPad, iPad Pro, then again iPhone, iPhone 5, iPhone SE, iPhone 5S, iPad Pro SE... Argh!
Why?! Why can't we have a damn legit rumor about computers, beyond Ming Chi Kuo saying "yeah in June they're going to sell a lot of Macs" ?! It's been 9 months without a single bit of informations! C'mon, Apple!
 
Saw them. They look great, but still I would like to see real benchmark from them.
Also, isn't P580 the GPU from the Xeon CPU, so a little bit more powerful than the "normal" Iris 580?
Anyway, even if this iGPUs look great, I still want to see a decent dGPU inside the MBP, and I'm really hoping for Polaris.

Speaking of other things: 9to5mac and MacRumors frontpage are sad as hell: every ****ing news is about iPhone, iPad, iPad Pro, then again iPhone, iPhone 5, iPhone SE, iPhone 5S, iPad Pro SE... Argh!
Why?! Why can't we have a damn legit rumor about computers, beyond Ming Chi Kuo saying "yeah in June they're going to sell a lot of Macs" ?! It's been 9 months without a single bit of informations! C'mon, Apple!

Are you sure? Cause there are 2 marketing strategies, either you leak some info about it or if you have a bomb, you can surprise the whole world when it explodes
 
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https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2016-nmp.1952250/page-21#post-22610342 Are you sure it is worth it? ;)

I genuinely suggest educating yourself about Polaris and Pascal. All of people who are reading this.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2462951
This is a great thread for starters. Pay attention to posts from Zlatan and Mahigan. Zlatan is PS4 game developer, and Mahigan brought a lot of understanding on the matter.

Alright. It looks promising, although I wouldn't discard so quickly Pascal without knowing what brings under the hood exactly. If Apple releases in March probably it will not matter much which one, since it will be too soon for any of these new dGPU to be in the rMBP.

At this point do I prefer Polaris over Pascal, but as I said it is too soon to omit a final verdict.
I would like to know how the Iris Pro 580 performs in DX 12.
 
Well by the looks of things M370X in DX12/Mantle/Metal/Vulkan environment should be on par with 640 CUDA core GPU from Nvidia(GTX 750 Ti/GTX850M/860M/950M/960M) at the same core clock. Removing the bottleneck from AMD GPUs ties them in performance with Maxwell GPUs in SIMD-to-SIMD comparison.

This is quite interesting idea, vbedia. I would also love to see how DX12 affects Intel iGPUs.


Edit: As I see Intel HD5XX GPUs have integrated H.265/HEVC decoder. Same as Polaris GPUs from AMD...

Looks like Apple wants to put it into their software.
 
Speaking of other things: 9to5mac and MacRumors frontpage are sad as hell: every ****ing news is about iPhone, iPad, iPad Pro, then again iPhone, iPhone 5, iPhone SE, iPhone 5S, iPad Pro SE... Argh!
Why?! Why can't we have a damn legit rumor about computers, beyond Ming Chi Kuo saying "yeah in June they're going to sell a lot of Macs" ?! It's been 9 months without a single bit of informations! C'mon, Apple!

Seems like a lot of information is being presented about various devices. Seems like it would make more sense to announce new macbooks in June alongside iOS 10 & 10.12.
 
Are you sure? Cause there are 2 marketing strategies, either you leak some info about it or if you have a bomb, you can surprise the whole world when it explodes

I slightly agree, but you're assuming that next MBP will be a bomb, which I personally doubt; and then as Oppenheim said, while Apple remains silent the others manufacturers are showing a lot of new products, and all coming with Skylake.
I don't think that this strategy is really convenient.

Seems like a lot of information is being presented about various devices. Seems like it would make more sense to announce new macbooks in June alongside iOS 10 & 10.12.

What are you talking about? Informations from which devices?
 
What are you talking about? Informations from which devices?

We already know they'll be announcing the new 4" iPhone, Air 3 and Apple Watch updates... it just seems more likely that if they announce laptops it will be in June. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't seem to fit.
 
We already know they'll be announcing the new 4" iPhone, Air 3 and Apple Watch updates... it just seems more likely that if they announce laptops it will be in June. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't seem to fit.
Its like we've already known whats gonna show up on March 15th, so, where's the hype? Shouldn't they surprise us with some thing "new"?
 
NO ! It has to be : MARCH

Please, if you're contribution to the thread is only writing/begging in uppercase to have the MBP in March, stop doing it.
Seriously. Continue to read the thread, but stop writing MARCH MARCH MARCH every time. It's kinda pesky.

@BenTrovato I don't know about that, it's true that there is a lot of stuff coming in March, but still Apple waiting for June feel too strange.
What a messy situation.
 
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