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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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I gave in
Does this have TB3?
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Did someone say HL3?I would call it Valve Time.
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Well that's true, but you seem to forget about many things.
First, 2-3mm less of aluminum chasis have just a slight impact in weight, almost non noticeable to the user. The truth of making it lighter in the redesigns is that they ditched the two most heavy components: mechanical drives (HDD) for much lighter SSD, and no more Superdrive. That, as a consecuence, also let them get a thinner chasis, but not that making it thinner made it that difference in weight compared to its predecessors: it was ditching internal components. Which internal component would they ditch now to make some real impact on weight?
And second, but the most important thing: does a "Pro" laptop made for working need to be even more thin, at the cost of drastically reducing thermal headroom, having to downcloack processors (thus losing performance) just for "the thinner the better" obsession? not to talk about throttling.
3mm less might be a priority in an iPad/iPhone which are supposed to stick almost all the day with you, but not in a MBP. But of course, something thinner is "cooler" (pun intended) and this is the way to go for Apple.
Same story, but I decided to get a basic MBA to hold the time between Haswell and Skylake. I'd have been frustrated with my old slow battery-dead MBP otherwise.
Did someone say HL3?
Well that's true, but you seem to forget about many things.
First, 2-3mm less of aluminum chasis have just a slight impact in weight, almost non noticeable to the user. The truth of making it lighter in the redesigns is that they ditched the two most heavy components: mechanical drives (HDD) for much lighter SSD, and no more Superdrive. That, as a consecuence, also let them get a thinner chasis, but not that making it thinner made it that difference in weight compared to its predecessors: it was ditching internal components. Which internal component would they ditch now to make some real impact on weight?
And second, but the most important thing: does a "Pro" laptop made for working need to be even more thin, at the cost of drastically reducing thermal headroom, having to downcloack processors (thus losing performance) just for "the thinner the better" obsession? not to talk about throttling.
3mm less might be a priority in an iPad/iPhone which are supposed to stick almost all the day with you, but not in a MBP. But of course, something thinner is "cooler" (pun intended) and this is the way to go for Apple.
Same story, but I decided to get a basic MBA to hold the time between Haswell and Skylake. I'd have been frustrated with my old slow battery-dead MBP otherwise.
I would also add that if performance was the number one factor, then we'd go with a desktop. First and foremost, it's a laptop, and what makes it a laptop is the BATTERY! So maintaining/improving battery life is the most crucial upgrade for any pro laptop user.
I gave in
Don't see why anyone would hate. The XPS 15 is a nice machine, and as a consumer you did what you should do. If Apple is dropping the ball for you, vote with your wallet.
Micro Center has some amazing prices for the Surface Pro 4 and I'm about to cave in myself - especially since the keynote has been pushed another damn week with still no guarantee or hint of a Macbook Pro update.
16gb RAM, 512gb SSD, GTX 960M, i7 6700 (SKYLAKE!
) processor, non-touch FHD screen for the extra battery life and because 4k is overkill (I'm learning right now how crappy Windows scaling is, issues even with just 1920x1080 :/ )I may also take this route if nothing comes out in March. Anyway, enjoy your new device!I gave in
16gb RAM, 512gb SSD, GTX 960M, i7 6700 (SKYLAKE!
The thing about the xps is it looks good on paper. However, it seems to be a POS judging by all the one star reviews on amazon. 35% one star reviews (over only 31% five star) is truly horrible for any product, much less a $1500+ laptop.
Read the horror stories yourself. You are making a big gamble and maybe you will be lucky and the cheap Dell components won't screw up, but if they do (which seems likely with this machine), good luck with the battle that is Dell's customer service (much talk of that in the reviews). I was thinking of getting an xps but was really glad i waited for it to be tested out in the real world because it seems there is too much risk with that machine and company.
Maybe you are already aware of all this, but i figured i would just inform so that in case you were not, you could still get your money back before it is too late should you want to go that route.
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Nice computer bro, thanks for getting back to me. I like how you emphasized SKYLAKE!16gb RAM, 512gb SSD, GTX 960M, i7 6700 (SKYLAKE!
[doublepost=1456978190][/doublepost]I am really hoping for a cheap not too crazily priced 2tb option.
I would have jumped on the dell xps 15 train long ago if it wasn't for the short battery life... solid looking computer otherwise
Does this have Iris pro 580 gpu?I gave in
I take back the bad battery life... atleast for the 1080p model. It gets 8-9 hours while doing stuff, so comparable to the 15 rMBP. The 4k gets about 5ish though.
The 1080p model is looking pretty appealing now that I think about it. That 960m is nothing to laugh about.
EDIT: Also with a BIOS update you can squeeze another hour out of the ones w/ nVMe drives
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Nope. It released way before anyone even knew what the 580 was called, I think.
No, the 6700 processor only has Intel HD Graphics 530 built in. Iris Pro comes with 6770, 6870, and 6970, none of which are out in the wild yet as far as I know.
Good source for looking up processor ID#s:
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/family/88392/6th-Generation-Intel-Core-i7-Processors#@Mobile
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Honestly I went back and forth on it a lot. I was super psyched when they were first released, and then completely turned off by the negative reports in the first couple months. Things seem to have cleared up since then, although now having the machine I'm not without concerns.
The trackpad is not up to Apple standards, at least on my unit. Motion blurring was quite noticeable at first, but I don't see it as much now, I think just as a result of getting used to the screen. Jury is still out on Windows 10. I've been playing around but don't feel like I've quite cracked it yet. Finally, I did get a blue screen on my first night, though I was deliberately pushing the machine with a lot if apps and windows. Still, less than reassuring to see that on a brand new pc
You should delete this garbage post. Any machine is prone to issues so quit the scare tactics.
The XPS 13 & 15 have got great reviews from all the trusted & reliable sources.
Same here, when no new Macs are announced in March, I'll go either with Surface 4 or XPS 13!
I gave in
OMG! You should upload this picture to rotten.com!
So i kinda curious when the new Macbook Pro 13 inch out. I have searched for Macbook laptops for like few months ago and I decided to get the Macbook Pro 13 inch. But since I see the Macbook Pro 13 inch caution says that Dont buy I want to know that anybody here know when the Newer version come out? Should I wait for it or buy it permanently because I need a new one since my HP laptop have problems with screen. I need the Skylake intergrated GPU for more gaming performance .
Too bad you think my post is garbage, i was just trying to inform. However, you are misconstrued in regards to my intention. I have no ulterior motive (Scare tactics???). I quick-scan this forum quite often but rarely reply as i need to focus on my biomedical research, but i had to chime in this time because I, as a decent human being, feel i should inform others the gamble they are making with buying an XPS. Now, i am not going to get into details, but i typically have more disposable income than the normal person, and feel it would be a too risky even in my case. Maybe money is not an issue to the OP, but i assume it is for everyone.
I have never owned a Mac. I have only owned windows computers, and like i said, i was actually going to buy an XPS. However, as time went by after the release, there have been a multitude of problems with it. I have read the xps forums quite a bit, as well as pretty much hundreds of amazon reviews. The reason i am switching to an Apple machine is simply the reliability.
Of course the XPS gets good reviews, they are looking at it typically right out of the box. The problem with it lies in things like the motherboard frying after 2 months, which seems to be very, very common. This is what i meant by "it looks good only on paper". Yes, the specs are high, and alluring, but reliability is very questionable. Go look on the amazon reviews if you care to, and then the xps forum (make sure you are looking at the 2015 model, which has a blue background on the display). It has more 1 star reviews than 5 star reviews, which i pretty much sorted through one by one to determine if they were fake or not, as amazons review system had gone down the drain (i judged the reviews as being legitmate in this case). You can set the reviews so you can read them by the most recently submitted, and i implore you to.
I backpack foreign countries quite a bit (my unsername is guate, after Guatemala, where i just spent a few months traveling) and was excited about the prospect of having a 15 inch laptop in a 14 inch frame since i need something as portable as possible for my foreign vacations. Also, i love touchscreens (i know most MBP fans care less about touchscreens, seemingly, but to me, the lack of one was almost a dealbreaker in switching to a Mac).
Once again: the problem with it is long term reliability (or even medium term in the case of this). Most reviews do the typical "i have had it for a week and i love it blah blah" which obviously has no experience with it long term. I was referencing the typical xps customers, not the big tech blog reviewers who don't use the same laptop everyday for months on end. But don't take my word for it, do a little research yourself. The abundance of XPS horror stories was enough to dissuade me from going near the thing. If i am being charged with telling people what's up with their new $1500 laptop before it gets out of the refund date, i am guilty, and,
I'm sorry i'm not sorry.
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Redesign for MBP means to me thinner screen bezel (making 14" screen in a 13" for example), Thunderbolt 3/USB C ports, and maybe bigger trackpad? If space gray comes out as a color option, the better. I don't know why people associate redesign with thinner laptop... Oh wait, maybe because Apple's (Ive) obsession with thinness
But if you shrink those bezels, you're still shrinking the footprint of the machine and its volume, which still impacts stuff like how large the batteries can be and how much room there is to dissipate heat. You're shrinking the space for better speakers, or for larger and more comfortable keyboards. In the Dell XPS case, that reduction in bezels also means things like "this webcam is useless". Plus, the less of a bezel you have the crap and fingerprints are going to end up on the screen from opening or repositioning the screen. Do you care about those things? You may or may not, but that's the nature of design being about compromise.
People like to think they get something for nothing, but a physical product is all about tradeoffs and what you're willing to prioritize to the detriment of other aspects. Complaining about a bezel seems like, frankly, a really dumb thing to latch onto, unless that extra inch in height and width somehow destroys your ability to travel with the device (in which case, hey, they make a thin-as-can-be laptop for you!)
You're assuming the current bezels are the perfect balance in the trade-offs, they may have been the case back in 2012, that's not necessarily true now. You could have made the same argument for the non-retina MBPs or older iPads which had their bezels thinned down in newer versions without causing any problems.
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