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apple noob here, I'm planning on getting a 13in rmbp this March, i7/16gb ram/256gb. I've read that the fan gets turned on much more often with the i7 and the computer itself gets louder because of this. Can anyone confirm/ link a good source about this? Also, how will I know that I'm ordering the latest rmbp off the apple website when they're released?(specs just say intel i5 processor) Thanks in advance!
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Have the 45W / 15" chips been released in any devices yet? The 28W / 13" chips are out there already, right?

All of our questions will be answered next Monday at Intel GDC, Skull Canyon will be revealed and any Skylakw-H embargo will be lifted. And if Apple is willing to $pay$ (And they perhaps get priority due to buying up old Haswell stocks) then they could scoop up Skylake-H/Xeon yields and Intel push skull canyon nuc back a month or two.

Vaio Z includes 28W/Iris 550 parts.
 
Those Intel launch times are not accurate at all. And does not shed much information. For example: Q3'15 for skylake. Many skylake chips are still not available/released.
Some skylake chips will not be available until Q4'16 or Q1'17

I agree it's an estimation, which is why I stated that in my post. Keep in mind the launch quarters are for the specific entry level chips in all of those machines, not the entire processor family. Each individual chip has its own page with a release date on ARK, so the launch dates are for that specific chip.

Whether or not Intel lists accurate launch windows on ARK is one thing; we are talking about quarters which are meant to give a broader sense of time. But looking at the list, Apple's laptops follow on or soon after those posted launch quarters, which speaks to some level about their accuracy. You can use this information to gauge the expected time between when Intel says they've launched the processors and when Apple releases machines with those processors.
 
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If the Iris Pro 580 really is as good or surpasses the 950M, I say there's no need for Polaris thus no need to wait until June.

Unless your Workflow needs CUDA and Apple is going to NVidia Pascal, there's no reason to even waste time with a dGPU.
 
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speaking of redesign, we may see cosmetic external, and much more internal. Probably Jony Ive lost his way in industrial design creativity for macs and more into other responsibilities now...
I'm not sure that there's any reason for Ive to change the design of the Macs beyond change for change's sake at this point. It's pretty clear his design ethos is minimalism and products that are true to their materials—and that's what we've gotten, spartan solid one-piece aluminum enclosures holding our computers. But at some point there's no way you can iterate any more on that very narrow parameter, beyond thinner and lighter obviously.



With that said, I dunno what you would change about the design. I guess going back to titanium would mean making it even lighter.
 
apple noob here, I'm planning on getting a 13in rmbp this March, i7/16gb ram/256gb. I've read that the fan gets turned on much more often with the i7 and the computer itself gets louder because of this. Can anyone confirm/ link a good source about this? Also, how will I know that I'm ordering the latest rmbp off the apple website when they're released?(specs just say intel i5 processor) Thanks in advance!

I believe in this video, the i5 and i7 13" MBPs are compared and increased fan noise in the i7 is mentioned.

As soon as Apple launches a new product, you will be ordering the latest product from them. Not to be confused with announcing a new product, if all we receive is an announcement with a release date this March, be careful to watch that release date and make sure you don't order before the new MBPs actually start shipping.

Lastly, I'd recommend against spending the extra $ on 13" upgrades. A fully spec'ed out 13" is very close in price to the base 15" which is much more powerful.
 
My feeling is that I will be very happy with the new 15" top model MBP. I don't believe :apple: will disappoint.

Come March or June, doesn't really matter to me, my mid 2012 rMBP is still an excellent computer for all my purposes. :cool:
 
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All of our questions will be answered next Monday at Intel GDC, Skull Canyon will be revealed and any Skylakw-H embargo will be lifted. And if Apple is willing to $pay$ (And they perhaps get priority due to buying up old Haswell stocks) then they could scoop up Skylake-H/Xeon yields and Intel push skull canyon nuc back a month or two.

Vaio Z includes 28W/Iris 550 parts.

Maybe not all hehe. But GDC will help for sure - some news to tide us over till nearer the event. Will be interesting to see if the 3rd party market has made any progress into accessories for TB3 for example, eGPU information, Intel's info as you mention, AMD's info (any hints on Polaris in Mac like devices).

I'm not sure that there's any reason for Ive to change the design of the Macs beyond change for change's sake at this point. It's pretty clear his design ethos is minimalism and products that are true to their materials—and that's what we've gotten, spartan solid one-piece aluminum enclosures holding our computers. But at some point there's no way you can iterate any more on that very narrow parameter, beyond thinner and lighter obviously.

With that said, I dunno what you would change about the design. I guess going back to titanium would mean making it even lighter.

The MacBook 12" is surely an example of how minimalism, reducing parts can make new designs come to light including in other model lines?

NVMe SSD
Changing (some might see the MacBook 12" keyboard as backward step) the keyboard keys
LED backlighting 30% better energy efficiency than any other retina Mac notebook
Making the retina display thinner <1mm
USB-C port for charging, video output, USB3 data
Reduced logic board size
Fanless design
Terraced contoured battery design
LED under each key.

There are limits to aluminium - Dell has shown that with the XPS's carbon fibre body.

Less than a week to know a bit more anyhow - a blink of an eye in comparison to how long this thread's been going!


EDIT - Who thinks a MacBook with a SuperDrive will still be available still after the March event? The 13" MBP is the only holdout (FW800, 802.11n, SuperDrive, Ethernet). Would Apple scrub the non retina MBP and MBA and make a sweeping change to all the MacBook lines?
 
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All of our questions will be answered next Monday at Intel GDC, Skull Canyon will be revealed and any Skylakw-H embargo will be lifted. And if Apple is willing to $pay$ (And they perhaps get priority due to buying up old Haswell stocks) then they could scoop up Skylake-H/Xeon yields and Intel push skull canyon nuc back a month or two.

Vaio Z includes 28W/Iris 550 parts.

Thank you. So the chips suitable for the 15", the 6770HQ, 6870HQ, and 6970HQ are restricted from being released in any non-Intel product until GDC, next week? Anywhere I can read more about this embargo?
 
If the Iris Pro 580 really is as good or surpasses the 950M, I say there's no need for Polaris thus no need to wait until June.

Unless your Workflow needs CUDA and Apple is going to NVidia Pascal, there's no reason to even waste time with a dGPU.
I'd put money on the iris 580 being as fast / faster than 950m

Or at least the ddr3 950m
 
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Where are the invites for march event??
continuously refreshing, such that I can have a look at teaser/hint provided by apple!

Apple buck up,send the invites like now.
 
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...core-mini-pc-with-iris-pro-and-thunderbolt-3/

"The most interesting NUC data Intel shared was something it wasn't ready to show us yet—it's a brand-new kind of NUC in a redesigned case, and it will offer performance above and beyond even the Core i7 Broadwell NUC Intel released last year. The box, codenamed "Skull Canyon," will feature a 45W quad-core Skylake CPU with the Iris Pro integrated GPU, which in the Skylake generation means 72 execution units (EUs) and 128MB of eDRAM. The box will also include a Thunderbolt 3 port"

" Intel says we should expect more information at or near this year's Game Developers Conference in San Francisco in mid-March."
 
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Maybe not all hehe. But GDC will help for sure - some news to tide us over till nearer the event. Will be interesting to see if the 3rd party market has made any progress into accessories for TB3 for example, eGPU information, Intel's info as you mention, AMD's info (any hints on Polaris in Mac like devices).



The MacBook 12" is surely an example of how minimalism, reducing parts can make new designs come to light including in other model lines?

NVMe SSD
Changing (some might see the MacBook 12" keyboard as backward step) the keyboard keys
LED backlighting 30% better energy efficiency than any other retina Mac notebook
Making the retina display thinner <1mm
USB-C port for charging, video output, USB3 data
Reduced logic board size
Fanless design
Terraced contoured battery design
LED under each key.

There are limits to aluminium - Dell has shown that with the XPS's carbon fibre body.

Less than a week to know a bit more anyhow - a blink of an eye in comparison to how long this thread's been going!


EDIT - Who thinks a MacBook with a SuperDrive will still be available still after the March event? The 13" MBP is the only holdout (FW800, 802.11n, SuperDrive, Ethernet). Would Apple scrub the non retina MBP and MBA and make a sweeping change to all the MacBook lines?

But precisely nothing you mention makes a real substantial difference to the exterior of a machine. That's why I'm saying that any external redesign would be change for change's sake.

And yeah I hope they finally kill the non-retina Macbook, if for no other reason that it's artificially inflating resale values for a host of machines.
 
But precisely nothing you mention makes a real substantial difference to the exterior of a machine. That's why I'm saying that any external redesign would be change for change's sake.
And yeah I hope they finally kill the non-retina Macbook, if for no other reason that it's artificially inflating resale values for a host of machines.

All these are changes that mostly affect physical thickness - which isn't an big redesign - but it's lots of cumulative, iterative design changes that sum up to a lot of change.

* Helping make the MacBook thinner/reduce volume: Changing the keyboard keys, retina display thinner, USB-C port, speaker move, reduced logic board, fanless, terraced battery

* Reducing battery size/improving battery life: LED backlighting 30% better energy efficiency, lower power CPU, integrated GPU...

* USB-C port - Smaller port, goodbye having so many ports. Goodbye USB-A ports , DP, ethernet.

Can they really make "real substantial" changes? They did with the physical height, the speakers, ports on the MacBook.

What would be big substantial exterior machine changes?
- Material change ala carbon fibre Dell XPS? Apple's used different alloys to reduce the weight/increase strength of the aluminium used, but not strayed from aluminium much.
- Thinner bezel ala Dell XPS? The exclusivity deal may have elapsed, if they wanted Sharp smaller bezel screens.
- Radically changed port layout - type and quantity. Isn't this a big one?
- Keyboard & speaker changes ala MacBook - that the MBPs get the speakers at top?

Has Apple done many external redesigns just for the sake of change?
 
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