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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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I know what he said. Essentially means, fundamental, or primary function of the device. That statement is untrue. Objectively.
No it's not. My statement was that the Apple Watch is much more than a secondary iPhone screen. That is true. The statement that the Apple Watch is "essentially" a second iPhone screen, is not true.
See, here's where you should use the word "subjective." I disagree that there is a better product than the Apple Watch in the smartwatch/wearable market. I think you have the idea that I said the Apple Watch is exclusively useful for heart rate tracking, which is not the case.
I don't want to argue about the usefulness of the Apple Watch though as it's really off topic. My main point is that hating on Apple Watch users is uncalled for, and the Apple Watch isn't the reason why we're waiting on Macbook Pros. Let's just drop it.
I'm sorry to hear you force yourself to.
Unfortunately for me you're wrong. Otherwise I would've just admitted being wrong and that'd be it. Objectively Apple Watch essential function is to be second iPhone screen. Despite its name its essential function is not to be a watch - it's the essential function of Swiss watches, not Apple Watch. Despite your argument its essential function is not to measure heart rate - it's the essential function of aforementioned specialized, better fulfilling this function devices. Its essential function is to be an expansion to iPhone, no more, no less. Essentially being its second screen. I'm so sorry.
No, especially this is what you call subjective. Whether it's much or not much, more or less is subjective. Being secondary iPhone screen is not though. It's just is.
Who put this limit on you? I'm not limited by this market. I'm limited by the functions objectively necessary and their best and most comfortable implementation. Apple Watch is not the best in this, wider "market". I'm so sorry.
This is one of the few true points you have. Yay. For Apple it's nothing personal, just business. Like I don't hate hipsters using rMBPs and e. g. Instagraming all of it. If it would not be them Apple would not be able to dedicate that much time to rMBPs and I, a Pro user would not have such a completed product at all.
It is though. Apple is not unlimited and even if they were the best of the best specialists market is not unlimited and even if it were the growth of the company is not unlimitedly linear etc etc etc.
Apple do focus on the most profitable markets - iPhone and within its latest (projected) stagnation - on Apple Watch being its supplement. MBs do not get this attention.
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I'm not doubting you, but if this is true, we should see stocks start to slip on non custom configs sometime next week.
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lawd jeezus my wallet is already hurting. +/- $500 for the core (unconfirmed) plus another $350 for gfx. There goes my iPhone 7.
Gotta have it though. That and some nice TB3 storage.
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Kady lake for MacBook Pro will not be available in December
I am also wondering this
Where was this said?
Hopefully notyou have just single-handedly created thousands of benzodiazepine addicts
I don't want to start a flame here, but as I can accept Apple focusing on their more profitable products, I cannot accept forgetting their entire computer line.
I mean,
Seriously?!
This makes me want to cry, and even the imac should be red. The 27 inch has been updated. But the 21.5 is out of date and should be red
Psilocybin is great. Tetrahydrocannabinol
Is not for me
Surface Book is great. Expensive though. Track pad is disappointing. Which is super important. I think iris 550 is faster than the Nvidia chip in the surface book.The amount of salt in this thread is insane
I ordered a Surface Book today to try it out, but I can´t see myself moving away from OS X so I´m going to wait for the new MacBooks even if it takes until June
I wonder how Linux would run on surface book,
Where?
Yep
You guys are killing me with these multi-quotes. Not expecting that lol.
Has anyone here considered the implications of Moore's law breaking down? Look at Intel's messed up release schedule, and the stagnation of computing as a whole. The tech explosion of the last two decades is slowing down, quite rapidly. This is the result.
To understand this situation, let's look at TVs. When HD first came out, there was an explosion in TV sales. Now everyone has an HD TV, so the industry has been dropping prices and quality as a result. They need a gimmick to get people to buy, so they trot out things like 3D, "Smart" TVs and now 4K (which at normal TV sizes and viewing distances is totally useless). Innovation in TV has disappeared.
We see the same gimmicks in the PC market. Computers really can't do much more than they could five years ago, while cheaper products like phones and tablets serve the needs of the general public perfectly. For those few who still need more powerful machines, we have gimmicks like detachable screens and touch screens.
Skylake is an appreciable step forward, but it takes longer and longer to reach these steps. Quad core, high power Skylake chips are only just now being released. That, and that alone, has prevented Apple from releasing its newest MBPs.
But why didn't Apple release a Broadwell MBP? Who knows. Maybe they thought Skylake was coming sooner than it did, or maybe it wasn't enough of a jump to warrant the expenditure of even a silent upgrade. Was it a mistake? Probably. But if they did upgrade to Broadwell, Skylake MBPs still wouldn't be out and those who bought the Broadwell MBPs would be faced with an imminent redesign and upgrade to Skylake which is only four months away (or less).
To understand this situation, let's look at TVs. When HD first came out, there was an explosion in TV sales. Now everyone has an HD TV, so the industry has been dropping prices and quality as a result. They need a gimmick to get people to buy, so they trot out things like 3D, "Smart" TVs and now 4K (which at normal TV sizes and viewing distances is totally useless). Innovation in TV has disappeared.
We see the same gimmicks in the PC market. Computers really can't do much more than they could five years ago, while cheaper products like phones and tablets serve the needs of the general public perfectly. For those few who still need more powerful machines, we have gimmicks like detachable screens and touch screens.
Skylake is an appreciable step forward, but it takes longer and longer to reach these steps. Quad core, high power Skylake chips are only just now being released. That, and that alone, has prevented Apple from releasing its newest MBPs.
But why didn't Apple release a Broadwell MBP? Who knows. Maybe they thought Skylake was coming sooner than it did, or maybe it wasn't enough of a jump to warrant the expenditure of even a silent upgrade. Was it a mistake? Probably. But if they did upgrade to Broadwell, Skylake MBPs still wouldn't be out and those who bought the Broadwell MBPs would be faced with an imminent redesign and upgrade to Skylake which is only four months away (or less).
Oh wait, here we go. Razor Core info will be dropped during Intel GDC.
Skull Canyon NUC Demo @ GDC
Razor Core Pricing & Availability @ GDC
Keynote @ Apple next Monday
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how very suspicious
Skull Canyon NUC Demo @ GDC
Razor Core Pricing & Availability @ GDC
Keynote @ Apple next Monday
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how very suspicious
Of course! But if this is the case, it's Apple's marketing ****up. They should've predicted this and be pro-active and prepare their audience for new update cycle gradually. If they are going to be reactive on it (or, better say, unreacting?
) we have all reasons to be angry on them.
Thank you for that post. I really liked reading it and I can't agree with you more. Very well written too. A nice contrast to the posts in these numerous new pages
Of course! But if this is the case, it's Apple's marketing ****up. They should've predicted this and be pro-active and prepare their audience for new update cycle gradually. If they are going to be reactive on it (or, better say, unreacting?
As far as Apple's marketing is concerned, the latest and greatest things are the Haswell MBPs with force touch track pads, and the best consumer-focused computer is the Retina MacBook.
It isn't Apple marketing that's got people upset, it's rumor sites and their unregulated forums filled with optimistic Polly Anna's who think Apple is code for "magic computer sorcerers from the future" who can "innovate" processors out of thin air and come up with new and unprecedented methods of computing even science fiction hasn't developed yet.
Edit: Just to be clear, I'm one of those optimistic Polly Anna's sometimes too.
Might want to calm down and realize you're talking about a computer before you have a coronary.
I was reading about that last night, the eGPU solution they're coming out with in a few months- will be quite interesting to see how it shapes up in a real world scenario.
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Seems like it's going to be a spec bump. Look how much they got right with the 2012 redesign: http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-macboo...mac-laptops-coming-ivy-bridge-new-thunderbolt
wait so its gonna be released on JUNE?
WTF.... I was waiting for this March.... WHY YOU DO THIS APPLE??
WTF.... I was waiting for this March.... WHY YOU DO THIS APPLE??
Intel releasing their final high-end chips with GT4 could indicates new Kaby Lake cpus coming later this year.
http://wccftech.com/intels-14nm-kaby-lake-amd-zen-processors-lined-competition-q4-2016/
http://wccftech.com/intels-14nm-kaby-lake-amd-zen-processors-lined-competition-q4-2016/
If KabyLake is coming out in Q4 16, I think it would be lame for Apple to release Skylake mbp in June or later.
Everyone is getting so excited about Kaby Lake, but:
1) We probably won't see a suitable KL chip for a MBP until this time next year, at the very least. You only have to look at Intel's recent past to realise that they stagger chip releases well over a 6 month period.
2) KL is only really 'Refreshed Skylake', but with updated iGPU and a chipset upgrade. The CPU architecture is seemingly the same, KL will likely just be some minor speed bumps in a similar way that Haswell was refreshed.
1) We probably won't see a suitable KL chip for a MBP until this time next year, at the very least. You only have to look at Intel's recent past to realise that they stagger chip releases well over a 6 month period.
2) KL is only really 'Refreshed Skylake', but with updated iGPU and a chipset upgrade. The CPU architecture is seemingly the same, KL will likely just be some minor speed bumps in a similar way that Haswell was refreshed.
Did not expect to see Papa Franku hereI'm more into psilocybin, or at least tetrahydrocannabinol.
...yes, but I suppose we're waiting for the Skylake MacBook Pro. Not the MacBook.
Good morning guys !
March or June... it's either Wait or Wait, so I'm still waiting for my new retina MBP13 +
Display. I'm even learning not to look at the kbd each time I'm writing, so I can look at my new 4k display while I'm working
March or June... it's either Wait or Wait, so I'm still waiting for my new retina MBP13 +
Display. I'm even learning not to look at the kbd each time I'm writing, so I can look at my new 4k display while I'm working I still have hope for a refresh for the 13"atleast. Like a lot of hope. Nothing holding that back and refreshes aren't picked up on by rumors and such. Stay frosty.
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