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I'm going to just Clean off my 17" 2010 and hang tight. My two MacBooks are nearly 5 and 10 years old, gee how old, so sad.

Shocked At how much respect I lost for Schiller over his dumb comment.
 
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Schiller will be getting bonked for that comment for awhile -- I think it was just said out of context/poorly worded.

He was referring to the idea that there are so many 5+ year old typical consumer machines still in day-to-day use, which Apple sees as a potential market to replace with an iPad Pro. My mom was one of these kinds of folks -- she had a 6 year old Dell desktop, and just last year, I helped her replace it with an iPad Air 2. That's the market they were referring to. People with old hardware that may not last much longer, with use cases that could work on an iPad.

Obviously most of us on Reddit, MacRumors, etc. aren't the core audience for using an iPad as a primary computing device, but your not-tech-savvy neighbor using Windows 7 on a virus infected machine from 5+ years ago? Ripe for the picking...

Anywho, yep, wouldn't want to be Phil Schiller. Bet his email has been blown up about that...
 
He thought the 600 million 5 year old pc's were sad. Pretty strange as before that, Tim was talking about how they make machines to last. Saying people should trade their PC's for new iPads is pretty environmentally unfriendly...
Apple doesn't call their devices PCs. So essentially, a PC that is over 5 years old for them is sad, but that opinion does not transfer to their own products.
 
'If you're thinking of getting something to replace your old PC, think about getting an iPad, which we believe is where "personal computing is going" '

Seemed a fair enough marketing message - to show that you don't have to have a PC to do (personal) computing. Apple does use "PC" to mean Windows PC, but don't explicitly say - they're seeing Macs as separate to what they'd call PCs.

Apple I guess knows the number of people new to iPads, Apple who are coming from PCs. Why not market to them?

And whilst the ad in the keynote didn't show it, this could also expand into a play to court enterprise/business who are also likely to have ageing PCs.

I'd echo justin216 - having set up a family member with an iPad Pro, another looking to get a 9.7 iPad Pro (having never had their own PC). The majority of Apple customers aren't necessarily going to be tech savvy, or have the skills to use a Mac or PC that well - and the simpler iPad can be a boon for them. Apple is making products, and marketing to these people.

We just have a wait on our hands for Mac updates. But hey, as there weren't announcements at the event, there's still the possibility that the supply chain is leaky enough that we see some rumours, parts etc prior to any Mac refresh. Though waiting a few months up to the end of July seems more likely now.

If Apple is waiting on new parts, say Polaris from AMD, AMD not knowing when they can ship Polaris presumably affects Apple's ability to announce and release Macs. Same with Intel & AMD for say Mac Pro.
 
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I just hope Digitimes report is on spot as its prediction aligns in line with the WWDC in June !
 
AMD has been suffering quite a lot...I wonder why...
You can treat it as a consequence of the under-delivering 20nm, which both dGPU vendors decided to skip. In response to this, AMD somehow hasn't updated its GPU microarchitecture like Nvidia did, so it lost in the energy-efficient war.

Edit: If you look close enough, AMD was actually competitive in 2012-2013 (against Nvidia's Kepler) when it enjoyed the lead in 28nm time-to-market. Things started going down after Nvidia gradually rolled out Maxwell in 2014.
 
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Erm, would you guys like to educate yourselves with latest reviews and benchmarks of AMD GPUs on wider range of games/performance benchmarks? ;)

In every price/performance bracket AMD is winning if we compare reference models of GPUs. Fury X is faster in 4K resolution than Titan X even in DX11. In 1440p it is faster than GT980Ti. R9 390X faster than GTX980 in 1440p and R9 390 tying in the same resolution with the same GPU. In 1440p R9 390 much faster than GTX 970. Also we have to factor the DX12 fiasco for Nvidia GPUs, because of lack of hardware features. In 1080p GTX 960 is not able to compete with R9 380 which is also cheaper than that GPU. R9 380X does not have competitor.

The only place where Nvidia was able to get track was DX11 mobile market. DX12 makes that 640 GCN core GPU(like R9 M370X) should be on par with similarly clocked 640 CUDA core Maxwell GPU. But lately tide has changed dramatically. Check out for example Techpowerup latest GPU reviews, and compare reference models of GPUs. Count it.
 
I think we can all agree, however, that AMD CPU's are totally useless right now.

It's ridiculous that Intel has effectively got a monopoly on x86 CPU's at the moment, especially in the mobile space.
 
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I wouldn't say useless, but simply very, very weak especially in every single market they appear :).
 
Monday prediction: Apple Watch Bands and new iPads.

One More Thing announcement: Apple Macintosh division sold off to Dell, Dell refreshes current SKUs to "Mid 2016" versions without changing specs, price increase to 2x MSRP, $15 dollar starbucks gc included with every Mac purchase.

Half kidding. Sticking to my "Haswell for Skylake" theory.

If Sony's VAIO division survived today, Apple would sell it Sony since Steve and the Sony Computer CEO wanted to install a Mac OSX in the VAIO laptops, however that didn't happen.

Just sharing a fun fact...
I think we can all agree, however, that AMD CPU's are totally useless right now.

It's ridiculous that Intel has effectively got a monopoly on x86 CPU's at the moment, especially in the mobile space.

I wish Nvidia would enter the CPU market as AMD lost it's competitiveness against Intel.
 
New MBP's this year, iPhone 7, and hopefully a new Apple Watch.

I want all of them. How the hell am I going to get all the money? I'm going to have to sell an organ god damn :eek:
 
lol I don't even know why this thread has been so active after such a let down yesterday. Let's relax for a month or so at least before we get excited again.
 
lol I don't even know why this thread has been so active after such a let down yesterday. Let's relax for a month or so at least before we get excited again.

Nope. Don't go anywhere guys,you are the only people helping me sail through this storm without MBP.
Without MBP and you guyz, I will get Bored.
 
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Apple Insider is now reporting the classic "supply chain constraints" from their affiliates, who of course have been having a fire sale on all macbooks, airs, and MBPs for the past few weeks. I wonder if the stores know as little as everyone else and were just assuming an announcement for macs yesterday.

I am betting on an update before WWDC. Apple has been moving away from introducing products at WWDC and if they are not doing a redesign, maybe they will just have a release like the update for the 15" MBP last year.
 
Well, Intel is set to release the IrisPro 580 in May and from various source around the net, including comments from AMD officials, Polaris will be released in the middle of the year. (http://www.fudzilla.com/news/40130-amd-confirms-polaris-for-the-mid-year)

Apple has everything they need to update the Macbook Pro lineup in time for WWDC. I can't think of anything else holding them back.

May should be an interesting month for this thread as there'll be concrete rumors flying around about Macbooks; especially if there is a redesign in the works.
 
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If one thing is for sure, then new MacBooks in June. Everything is ready to be launched by WWDC, even if it means 4 weeks shipping time. Hopefully my early 2013 13" retina doesn't fail me until then.
 
I like that they are pushing trading in old devices for new ones at an Apple store. I'd much rather deal with all of my iPhone hardware through Apple and deal with Verizon as little as possible. It also beats mailing my old phone to Amazon or another service.

Yeah, I went online to see how much they would rebate me for my in-perfect-condition, still fully functioning iPhone 5s 16GB from 2013... guess how much they said they would give me?


Go on... guess...

...

...

That's right - $0. Nothing, nill, nada, zilch, zero, zip. It is a joke! They will only give credit if you are trading in something that they can then sell for close to retail as a 'refurbished' model.
 
I have a feeling the "Pro" lineup is about to get some performance trimming. With the disappearance of the Air more than likely, and reports popping up we are going to get a slimmed down version that is thinner than the MacBook Air.. I don't think a quad core processor will be going into the machine unless they can pull off a miracle.
 
I have a feeling the "Pro" lineup is about to get some performance trimming. With the disappearance of the Air more than likely, and reports popping up we are going to get a slimmed down version that is thinner than the MacBook Air.. I don't think a quad core processor will be going into the machine unless they can pull off a miracle.
Im very scared there going to put a 15Watt CPU in the 13" Pro. And that would... well, it would kind of be the end of it all for me.

They seem to be trending that way to me. The rMB line takes the Core M, the Macbook Pro's take the 28W/45W parts... theres a big performance gap between those two. If the air disappears, I find it hard to believe they dont fill that gap with something... and what better than the 13" Pro! Now its thinner!

Ideally the introduce a 14" rMB that uses a 15W and keep the Pros where they are. We will see. I dont really see how they can make the current models thinner without downgrading though.
 
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Im very scared there going to put a 15Watt CPU in the 13" Pro. And that would... well, it would kind of be the end of it all for me.

They seem to be trending that way to me. The rMB line takes the Core M, the Macbook Pro's take the 28W/45W parts... theres a big performance gap between those two. If the air disappears, I find it hard to believe they dont fill that gap with something... and what better than the 13" Pro! Now its thinner!

Ideally the introduce a 14" rMB that uses a 15W and keep the Pros where they are. We will see. I dont really see how they can make the current models thinner without downgrading though.

I would imagine that we get 14 and 16 inch MacBook Pros and for some awful reason we get the equivalent dual core Air processors in the 14 inch and the dual core processors that go in the 13 inch in the larger Pro model. I mean, if they are going to make this thing thinner than the Air, we have some limitations on space.. Ugh.. This is going to suck. :(
 
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