Hi guys,
what do you think about release of Macbook Pro 15'?
2015-end or 2016-early?
I can't wait to see skylake
Spring 2016. Apple just updated them with Radeon Graphics in June.
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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Spring 2016. Apple just updated them with Radeon Graphics in June.
I've been keeping up with the latest news from intel, and I have a question.
The mobile xeon chips that "could" be a BTO option in the 15", are supposed to come with the GT4e IGPU. Does that mean the 6920HQ and the 6820HQ will have GT3e instead?
If both the xeon, and the i7 have the same IGPU, I don't see the point of the xeon unless it's going to be a hex-core. Especially since xeon's typically have lower clock speeds, but if they release a hex-core I'd throw in an extra grand like that.
The mobile xeon chips that "could" be a BTO option in the 15", are supposed to come with the GT4e IGPU. Does that mean the 6920HQ and the 6820HQ will have GT3e instead?
If both the xeon, and the i7 have the same IGPU, I don't see the point of the xeon unless it's going to be a hex-core. Especially since xeon's typically have lower clock speeds, but if they release a hex-core I'd throw in an extra grand like that.
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The mobile Xeons are quad-cores according to Anandtech.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9503/...ile-workstations-with-first-mobile-xeon-chips
Ha ha, can the rest of us just pay a reasonable amount, you can send the extra to Tim Cook via PayPal if you insist.
No one really knows. However, most likely the update will be this fall. The 15" MBP is running 2 generations behind on CPU (Haswell). It didn't get the Broadwell update the rest of the notebook line got in the spring. The only reason they would skip a CPU generation update would be if a significant re-design was around the corner. The GPU update, in my opinion is a stop-gap update for the major refresh this fall.
Hi guys,
what do you think about release of Macbook Pro 15'?
2015-end or 2016-early?
I can't wait to see skylake
Don't know why you're poking fun at the cost. Current build to order processors cost $300 extra. so three hundred, plus three hundred for the xeon. Add four hundred to cover the custom motherboard, and ecc memory.
This is apple we are talking about, the fact that its a professional class machine is enough for them to gouge the hell out of us.
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Just trying to inject a little humour into the whirlwind of blind speculation that makes up 99% of this thread.
Yes I know Apple products are high quality and often astoundingly expensive (especially when it comes to options).
That's one reason I suggest Apple completely recasts what constitutes a macbook and the macbook pro. The lineup that we are accustomed to do would be reinvisioned.
The MBP becomes xeon based
The MacBook line bumps up in power and features i7.
Many customers who traditionally have been MBP customers will be split...some who can afford >$2,800 opt for the elite MacBookPro. Perhaps if a multi-core option is possible it comes in over 4,200? Others with a mid 2k budget will be buying a MacBook...which will still be a appointed better than today's MBP.
Meanwhile the iPad plus comes out...running iOS and Yosemite and fills a niche at around 1k.
Personally can't see Tim Cook paying for multiple manufacturing rigs for the various options required to offer both i7 and Xeon processors.
Don't believe there are enough people out there that would be prepared to pay the heavy premium to get what will probably be a marginal performance increase at best.
Anyone who needs (note the word needs) serious grunt over and above that offered by an i7 powered laptop would be building a desktop system.
Don't believe there are enough people out there that would be prepared to pay the heavy premium to get what will probably be a marginal performance increase at best.
Anyone who needs (note the word needs) serious grunt over and above that offered by an i7 powered laptop would be building a desktop system.
The mobile Xeon is not about increased performance, its only advantage over a regular Quad Core i7 is ECC memory support.
The goal of such an error corrected memory is to guarantee more reliable data for critical applications.
Keep in mind that ECC memory cost 1.5 to 2 times more than regular memory.
I doubt Apple would see much benefit in fitting a Xeon in one of its MacBook Pro.
The goal of such an error corrected memory is to guarantee more reliable data for critical applications.
Keep in mind that ECC memory cost 1.5 to 2 times more than regular memory.
I doubt Apple would see much benefit in fitting a Xeon in one of its MacBook Pro.
Silently, and with Haswell. I really doubt they're going to want to go into the holiday season with Macs two intel generations behind all their competitors.
Not happening. The Macbook just came out this year and is an established design. They CAN'T put an i7 in it, and give it a 15" screen. They would at least need the chassis of the current Retina Macbook Pro, and they aren't just going to start calling that the "Macbook" and confuse everyone.
Incorrect. The biggest benefit of Xeons is the ability to utilize a higher CPU thread count...which is all important for power users doing math/3d/sims. Some Xeons currently feature 32 accessible threads. That is a very, very big deal to some users.
Regarding memory prices...Pros are willing to pay. And Apple has never shied away from this kind of thing.
It would be utterly clear:
MacBook - i7, consumer-grade CPU
MacBook Pro - Xeon, an enterprise pro-grade CPU
I'd suspect only the Xeon would have the fastest thunderbolt.
You are talking about desktop parts here, we still need to see what will this mobile Xeon bring to the table.
So far Intel only announced vPro, ECC & ThunderBolt 3 support.
Regarding the threads count, to get 32 threads you still need 16 cores. We already know that this Xeon will have 4 cores, so you can already tell it'll have 8 threads.
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They can't put a 47w processor, which has been in the Macbook Pro traditionally, in the Macbook casing. It would melt. If you think that they would suddenly start using only dual cores, or using ULV chips at a price level that's typically been offering much more, that'd be a terrible marketing plan. "Hey consumers. Buy the Xeon powered Lenovo at $1,999 or buy our 15" Macbook Air for $2500! We know the Lenovo outperforms this computer in every category but, APPLE! Right?" No. Apple isn't dumb, and despite the typical "Apple premium" arguments, they aren't really overpriced most of the time.
And it makes no sense that they'd have two different tiers of thunderbolt being used. It's a confusing marketing message.
Just remembered that the 13" rMBP was released in October 2012 and was refreshed just 4 months later in February 2013.
I had not read that. Well I'd be far less interested (as would my 3d friends) if the top configuration was only 8 threads. Or I should say: I'd be far less interested in paying a premium!
I'd pay well over 5k for a 32 thread laptop.
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