Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[Oppenheim]

Here is what I want on the Pro:

current models (13' and 15'):

new models mockup (14' and 16'):

whats new:
* same size, but thinner bezels with 14' and 16' screen sizes
* new keyboard with individual key's LEDs and the same travel as the new iMac's Magic Keyboard
* 3 usb 3.1 ports (maybe four?)
* microSD and audio jack still there
* 12hr battery
* 30% thinner body and lighter
* discrete gpu on the 16" model

Disagree with your prediction. I believe the body will evolve from the MacBook and not the current MBP design. Sure, there will be continuity with the current MBP, but the inspiration will be rooted in the hugely successful MacBook which took casing technology to a whole new level, was tip-of-the-spear in terms of USB-C and exquisite hardware with out-of-this-world attention to detail.

Regarding your bullet points:
- USB 3/3.1 as part of USB-C, yes
- MicroSD and flimsy 3.5mm jack consigned to the museum
- 12 hour battery - yes. This will be the MBP's flagship feature.
- Yes, thinner and lighter.
- Maybe, but a pointless waste of energy if you ask me. If you need that level of performance, portable computers aren't for you AFAIC.
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Why.
Explain to me.

"No SD Card."
Yes, because it's taking so much useful space with its three millimeters. Also, no one really need it for connecting the 99.99% cameras that work with SD, nor with smarthphones which memory is a micro-SD. Seriously, no one.

"No Jack 3.5 mm."
Yes, because now we're talking about three dot five millimeters. A lot of space and weight saved!
And of course my headphones and my monitors won't need it. I can replace it with a super light, super portable adapter, or even better, with an external sound card. Just for saving 3.5 millimeters. Yes, that's the future.

"And no MagSafe."
Yes, because no one need a proper charger. No, I need that one of the three ports on my MBP is also the port for the charger. And of course the battery is going to last forever, I mean, no one make stressful works on their computer! No one playing intense 3D games, no one working on heavy Illustrator files, no one working with CAD or 3D or other intensive applications.

Seriously Apple, please rip off MagSafe and all the other useless ports, and most of all, make the MBP 3.5 mm thinner then the previous generation and 0.5 grams lighter but with the same battery life, and an heavy thermal constriction.
This is really what we all want now.

Attention to detail obviously isn't something that's important to you.

It's the detail that matters. The differences are what make you stand out.

Apple isn't for you. You should toll-free phone Dell and ask to be put through to the XPS sales department.

 

[GioFerrara]

This might sound weird, but I think the all metal design on the MacBook makes it look more premium. I know I am an Apple newbie, but I noticed it when comparing it the MacBook Pro's. I prefer the all metal look over the black (plastic?) on the MacBook Pro.

The only other thing I would probably change is the bezel size. Overall the current MacBook's are beautiful, they don't need much enhancing.

 

[dtsisdead]

Disagree with your prediction. I believe the body will evolve from the MacBook and not the current MBP design. Sure, there will be continuity with the current MBP, but the inspiration will be rooted in the hugely successful MacBook which took casing technology to a whole new level, was tip-of-the-spear in terms of USB-C and exquisite hardware with out-of-this-world attention to detail.

Regarding your bullet points:
- USB 3/3.1 as part of USB-C, yes
- MicroSD and flimsy 3.5mm jack consigned to the museum
- 12 hour battery - yes. This will be the MBP's flagship feature.
- Yes, thinner and lighter.
- Maybe, but a pointless waste of energy if you ask me. If you need that level of performance, portable computers aren't for you AFAIC.
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Attention to detail obviously isn't something that's important to you.

It's the detail that matters. The differences are what make you stand out.

Apple isn't for you. You should toll-free phone Dell and ask to be put through to the XPS sales department.

Whoa! Slow down there honky! No need to be so mean... Just because someone else has a different view on what Apple should/will do, doesn't mean you should write them off in that way.

I for one, disagree with you about removing things such as the SD Card Slot as being part of 'attention to detail'. If you think about which profession would make up (probably) a vast majority of 'pro' users, they are photographers (I know of MANY who use rMBPs on shoots). Most, if not all cameras use SD Cards and an on-board card reader is the fastest way to transfer a large number of photos from those cards. I can't see Apple getting rid of the SD Card slot any time soon for the MBP - it can easily be shifted to the thicker part of the machine (if they choose to follow the design cues of the rMB/MBA). Remember that we are talking about a portable PRO machine here (again, a segment Apple basically created) and professionals don't want to have to have 10 different dongles hanging off their machine in order to do their work. I feel that Apple are aware that they need to have these types of ports available on the (maybe only 15") Pro. I can see the removal of the 3.5mm socket, especially if it is true that the iPhone 7 won't have one. It is very much like apple to do these kinds of things across devices at a similar time.

 

[x-evil-x]

This might sound weird, but I think the all metal design on the MacBook makes it look more premium. I know I am an Apple newbie, but I noticed it when comparing it the MacBook Pro's. I prefer the all metal look over the black (plastic?) on the MacBook Pro.

The only other thing I would probably change is the bezel size. Overall the current MacBook's are beautiful, they don't need much enhancing.

No macbook pro has been plastic. the MacBooks people are talking about possibly designing after is that slimmer air look but still aluminum. Hasn't been a plastic mac in a while now

 

[AirdanMR]

This user (not even going to say his name) reported me for warning other users about his troll-like behaviour in the rMBP redesign thread. I wasn't even talking directly with him and got my coment banned and a warning for the admins for "name-calling".

(I wouldn't say troll is an insult or something offesive, but anyway)

Now he comes to our beloved waiting for skylake thread and start flaming people with bad manners and his "truth" about SD and 3,5mm like he did on the rMBP redesign thread. I guess people get tired and ignored him and now he wants fresh meat to flame here.

I'm not going to report him or tell you what to do, I don't even really care if he reports me again and I got banned from this thread... I will miss you guys, for sure, but it will be worth it if that can saves your time and energy, because that discussion is a dead-end.

 

[GioFerrara]

No macbook pro has been plastic. the MacBooks people are talking about possibly designing after is that slimmer air look but still aluminum. Hasn't been a plastic mac in a while now

I am aware of what others are talking about and I am talking about the same thing. The current MacBook Pro certainly has plastic by the hinge. The MacBook is entirely metal.

 

[OSX7]

This user (not even going to say his name) reported me for warning other users about his troll-like behaviour in the rMBP redesign thread. I wasn't even talking directly with him and got my coment banned and a warning for the admins for "name-calling".

(I wouldn't say troll is an insult or something offesive, but anyway)

Now he comes to our beloved waiting for skylake thread and start flaming people with bad manners and his "truth" about SD and 3,5mm like he did on the rMBP redesign thread. I guess people get tired and ignored him and now he wants fresh meat to flame here.

I'm not going to report him or tell you what to do, I don't even really care if he reports me again and I got banned from this thread... I will miss you guys, for sure, but it will be worth it if that can saves your time and energy, because that discussion is a dead-end.

Are you talking about der Führer above?

 

[AirdanMR]

Are you talking about der Führer above?

I'm sorry I can't support name-calling or closedmindheim will report me.

 

[R3k]

At that conference they just had it sounded like they may start moving away from the MacBook Pro line soon. This could be the last or near the last MacBook Pro

Now you're just making things up.

 

[unobtainium]

2. Get rid of USB 3.0 ports (sorry to anyone who wants these) and potentially HDMI

No thanks. This is supposed to be a highly capable Pro laptop, not another rMB-style toy.

 

[richinaus]

No thanks. This is supposed to be a highly capable Pro laptop, not another rMB-style toy.

I had the rmb and it made little difference to me but I embraced cloud computing a while ago.
In fact on my ipadpro there has not been one instance yet where I have needed a usb connection. And yes I use it everyday in a professional designer capacity.

 

[unobtainium]

Bluetooth headphones need to be charged all the time. iPhone needs to be plugged in while I'm at work. HDMI cable is necessary for connecting to most HD monitors and TVs. These are just essentials to having a "pro" laptop.

 

[richinaus]

I could possibly agree with that but I have my RMBP hooked up to an apple display and all the ports are on the monitor. The only reason I use one USB port on the notebook is that they are quicker than the current displays ports [USB 3 HD]

I charge my bluetooth headphones up over night - no need for day charging as they last 20 hours. same with the iPhone [but also have a dedicated lightening cable for that plugged into the mains at work for my iPad / work iphone]. Never sync over USB.

no dispute on the HDMI requirement if you need to connect to other monitors.

So if the new display comes with the new macbookpro's I will have little use for lots of ports. 2 x USB C is really all I will need to see to be happy.
Seems like you do though. Each to their own uses but for me its fine.

 

[Hey Mac]

Well, if they retire the 3.5 mm jack I might simply avoid buying... It would be already quite annoying having to mess around with adaptors for the ~20 devices I own that require regular USB ports... I'm not gonna throw away my HQ headphones for the sake of thinness/innovation.

I'm just gonna bite the bullet and buy the current rMBP, if still available. If not, I'm gonna switch to a computer company that makes laptops for the real world (any PC would do just fine I guess).

It might sound like I live in the past... but actually I live in the present world.

 

[dtsisdead]

Well, if they retire the 3.5 mm jack I might simply avoid buying... It would be already quite annoying having to mess around with adaptors for the ~20 devices I own that require regular USB ports... I'm not gonna throw away my HQ headphones for the sake of thinness/innovation.

I'm just gonna bite the bullet and buy the current rMBP, if still available. If not, I'm gonna switch to a computer company that makes laptops for the real world (any PC would do just fine I guess).

It might sound like I live in the past... but actually I live in the present world.

I kind of agree with you... having to use adapters is a pain at the best of times. IF, however, they have TB3 and/or HDMI, then that could use an adapter that has BOTH visual and audio signals. That would suit me just fine.

 

[Blue Sun]

Regarding your bullet points:
- USB 3/3.1 as part of USB-C, yes
- MicroSD and flimsy 3.5mm jack consigned to the museum
- 12 hour battery - yes. This will be the MBP's flagship feature.
- Yes, thinner and lighter.
- Maybe, but a pointless waste of energy if you ask me. If you need that level of performance, portable computers aren't for you AFAIC.

Thinner, lighter, more powerful and with an extra 2-3 hours of battery life? You can't have all those things. Apple engineers aren't wizards or witches from Hogwarts. There will be compromises.

This might sound weird, but I think the all metal design on the MacBook makes it look more premium. I know I am an Apple newbie, but I noticed it when comparing it the MacBook Pro's. I prefer the all metal look over the black (plastic?) on the MacBook Pro.

The only other thing I would probably change is the bezel size. Overall the current MacBook's are beautiful, they don't need much enhancing.

Beautiful? Maybe. Underpowered? Definitely. In my eyes, an iPad Pro is better value, but different strokes for different folks, I guess.

 

[jozero]

April 26th ? No event update day after earning report ?

 

[Alex225]

Been having a read through this thread but I'm not sure whether to hold out for a new MBP or buy the current model.

I currently own an MB Air which I spec'd quite nicely a couple of years ago (i7/8gb/256gb) which still performs brilliantly for what I use it for. I'll be using this as a work machine due to it's portability and fancied a MBP as my machine at home. Just wondering if the current MBP range will surpass the Air in terms of performance or if I'm best of waiting to see what is launched.

Like many tech geeks, I'm impatient haha

 

[dukeOfPrunes]

No thanks. This is supposed to be a highly capable Pro laptop, not another rMB-style toy.

Highly capable would correspond to USB-C supporting USB 3.1 and TB3, not regular USB 3 ports. The redesigned MBP looks to the next several years, not the current year and the past.

I do think they will keep the 3.5mm jack. MB12 has it. Millions of iPhone7 without 3.5mm could eventually pave the way.
I also think HDMI will be kept. HDMI 2.0 is up to date, and so widely used. And I think the SD-card slot will be kept as it is very useful, and caters to one of the core areas of Apple.

That makes 4 types of ports: USB-C, HDMI, 3.5mm, SD-CARD. Only two more than the tiny MB12. And quite less than the 6 ports of the current MBPs (USB, TB and MagSafe merged to usb-c). Remember Apple could still add magsafe functionality to the usb-c cable or charger.

Could we see a lightening connector though? To be able to use and charge accessories from the iPad, iPhones as well as lightening headphones?

 

[PKBeam]

it's more likely that apple will release a thunderbolt > lightning adapter.

 

[Dead0k]

SD slot and 3,5 jack is essential. You guys are under 16 y.or or something when you write those things about removing those slots?

99.9 % of all headphones are cabled. (for music producers, listerners, movie editors it is a must! )
99 % cameras have SD cards. - same must for photographers, vbloggers, video makers

Jeasus, you guys have to think trice before writing those useless posts.

 

[Oppenheim]

I had the rmb and it made little difference to me but I embraced cloud computing a while ago.
In fact on my ipadpro there has not been one instance yet where I have needed a usb connection. And yes I use it everyday in a professional designer capacity.

dtsisdead above thinks the MBP is designed only for "photographers" and the whole design should be compromised to satisfy the percieved convenience "requirements" of this professional photographer user group.
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SD slot and 3,5 jack is essential. You guys are under 16 y.or or something when you write those things about removing those slots?

99.9 % of all headphones are cabled. (for music producers, listerners, movie editors it is a must! )
99 % cameras have SD cards. - same must for photographers, vbloggers, video makers

Jeasus, you guys have to think trice before writing those useless posts.

"Essential" to you perhaps.

I see you make the "tradition" argument yet again.

They are very old connectors. Completely unnecessary. USB-C does power, ultra high bandwidth data, low latency and very good aesthetics.
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Highly capable would correspond to USB-C supporting USB 3.1 and TB3, not regular USB 3 ports. The redesigned MBP looks to the next several years, not the current year and the past.

I do think they will keep the 3.5mm jack. MB12 has it. Millions of iPhone7 without 3.5mm could eventually pave the way.
I also think HDMI will be kept. HDMI 2.0 is up to date, and so widely used. And I think the SD-card slot will be kept as it is very useful, and caters to one of the core areas of Apple.

That makes 4 types of ports: USB-C, HDMI, 3.5mm, SD-CARD. Only two more than the tiny MB12. And quite less than the 6 ports of the current MBPs (USB, TB and MagSafe merged to usb-c). Remember Apple could still add magsafe functionality to the usb-c cable or charger.

Could we see a lightening connector though? To be able to use and charge accessories from the iPad, iPhones as well as lightening headphones?

HDMI???

Not going to happen.

USB-C resolves all the issues with HDMI and goes further (reversible, multiple protocol support, power, user friendly, etc.)
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Thinner, lighter, more powerful and with an extra 2-3 hours of battery life? You can't have all those things. Apple engineers aren't wizards or witches from Hogwarts. There will be compromises.

Thinner doesn't mean smaller battery. We will also see improved battery chemistry and larger battery volume (motherboard smaller).

New OSX, new CPU, integrated GPU and ultra low power peripherals and screen and you can see the power efficiency creeping up.

 

[Blue Sun]

Thinner doesn't mean smaller battery. We will also see improved battery chemistry and larger battery volume (motherboard smaller).

New OSX, new CPU, integrated GPU and ultra low power peripherals and screen and you can see the power efficiency creeping up.

Improved battery chemistry? Care to share your source? While I agree the new rMBPs will be thinner, I doubt there will be considerable battery life improvements.

 

[AirdanMR]

SD slot and 3,5 jack is essential. You guys are under 16 y.or or something when you write those things about removing those slots?

99.9 % of all headphones are cabled. (for music producers, listerners, movie editors it is a must! )
99 % cameras have SD cards. - same must for photographers, vbloggers, video makers

Jeasus, you guys have to think trice before writing those useless posts.

In deed Apple cares so much about audio, photo and video artists, that they bought Logic Pro and Final Cut software and kept developing until today. Add designers to that list and you got more than 50% of the consumer target of the rMBP.

For god sake, even the the macbook has a jack 3,5mm seriously guys don't swallow the bait

 

[dtsisdead]

dtsisdead above thinks the MBP is designed only for "photographers" and the whole design should be compromised to satisfy the percieved convenience "requirements" of this professional photographer user group.
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Quite clearly you didn't read my post... I am not a photographer, but I have the need for the pro machine, including an SD Card Slot. I was simply referring to a group of professional users I know need the card slot.

You shouldn't put words into others' mouths just to push your own skewed and biased agenda. Unless you are secretly Jonny Ive and trying to sound out actual design elements for the upcoming model, please keep the sharing of your opinions nice and friendly (ie. say that you would like for these ports to be removed, or that you would be happy if they were); subsequently, let others have their own opinions, too, without putting their ideas down. Bullying people on a forum is not going to make one iota of difference to Apple, who will do whatever they believe will make them money - not what YOU think will make them money.