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I've reached the stage now where if the next MacBook is not a re design then I'm buying a Windows machine.

Seriously Apple, I've been waiting almost 15 months now
 
I've reached the stage now where if the next MacBook is not a re design then I'm buying a Windows machine.

Seriously Apple, I've been waiting almost 15 months now
They are making a redesign, because if not, the Macbook pro 13" should get a silent update since the cpu are already there for a long time now. they just wait to show them both at WWDC
 
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The current MacBook Pro is thin and portable enough for most as it is. I don't think it needs to be or should be as thin as the MacBook. If Apple can shave a couple of mm off and shrink the overall footprint (shrink bezels) the MacBook Pro would be incredibly portable.

In my opinion it comes down to need and price. Some need a true "Pro" machine that will cost them well over $2k and some just need a reliable casual computer while saving quite a bit of money. Either way both are very portable machines and I think the new MacBook Pro will be made even more portable.

I am someone who doesn't need a lot of power, but I am set on the MacBook Pro. I have always been a believer that you should always settle on a bit more than you need to be safe. Another reason is I am not the type to upgrade my computer often and I believe the MacBook Pro will offer me more future proofing. I think a lot of MacBook Pro buyers have the same thoughts.
 
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Sadly, I anticipate with the new MBP having to carry around a TB->VGA adapter, a TB->HDMI adapter and at least one TB->USB A adapters. And that's just to be able to do a presentation, plugging into whatever projector is in the room and plugging in my Logitech slide presenter.

(The TB above could also be USB C depending...)

VGA is an old dinosaur, and actual projectors already have hdmi, but I think at this point it doesnt matter at last. You would have to use anyway a mini HDMI to HDMI adaptor in the actual MBPs, a mini HDMI to VGA adaptor, etc. In this case it will be the same but with USB C/TB (which are the same for connectors, despite being different for protocols).

Just think that USB C connector will be the new standard, so anybody will have to jump on the boat sooner or later. Meanwhile, the only stuff that will need the the USB C to A adaptor are the pen drives, because almost anything else is attatched by a USB cable, which can be replaced instead: i.e having a USB type B to USB type A cable to your external soundcard, you'll only have to change it for a USB B to USB C cable. Same for external hard drives, gear, smartphones, and a big etc.

For now, if ultrabooks (which are the excellence of portability) are comming with USB C, which "suppose" using adaptors (see the point above), I don't see the flaws of using them in a working machine, if you'll have to pass throught this step anyway this year, the next or the other.
 
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The current MacBook Pro is thin and portable enough for most as it is. I don't think it needs to be or should be as thin as the MacBook. If Apple can shave a couple of mm off and shrink the overall footprint (shrink bezels) the MacBook Pro would be incredibly portable.

In my opinion it comes down to need and price. Some need a true "Pro" machine that will cost them well over $2k and some just need a reliable casual computer while saving quite a bit of money. Either way both are very portable machines and I think the new MacBook Pro will be made even more portable.

I am someone who doesn't need a lot of power, but I am set on the MacBook Pro. I have always been a believer that you should always settle on a bit more than you need to be safe. Another reason is I am not the type to upgrade my computer often and I believe the MacBook Pro will offer me more future proofing. I think a lot of MacBook Pro buyers have the same thoughts.

I share this sentiment.

I like thin things, but I also like a bit of "weight" and would prefer higher build quality and aesthetics over "thinness".

I want an i5 Skylake, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 16" 4k display, a low power iGPU (capable of driving an external 5k over USB-C), no 3.5mm jack, no USB3.0/Thunderbolt/HDMI/display port, larger battery volume, improved battery chemistry and a new OSX with amazing power refinements.

I will be bringing this guy around with me everywhere (as I do with my current MBP). I want it to be high quality, easy to pull out of my bag and get to work, rugged, reliable, power efficient, amazing to look at, inspirational, etc.
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VGA is an old dinosaur, and actual projectors already have hdmi, but I think at this point it doesnt matter at last. You would have to use anyway a mini HDMI to HDMI adaptor in the actual MBPs, a mini HDMI to VGA adaptor, etc. In this case it will be the same but with USB C/TB (which are the same for connectors, despite being different for protocols).

Just think that USB C connector will be the new standard, so anybody will have to jump on the boat sooner or later. Meanwhile, the only stuff that will need the the USB C to A adaptor are the pen drives, because almost anything else is attatched by a USB cable, which can be replaced instead: i.e having a USB type B to USB type A cable to your external soundcard, you'll only have to change it for a USB B to USB C cable. Same for external hard drives, gear, smartphones, and a big etc.

For now, if ultrabooks (which are the excellence of portability) are comming with USB C, which "suppose" using adaptors (see the point above), I don't see the flaws of using them in a working machine, if you'll have to pass throught this step anyway this year, the next or the other.

What's an "actual" projector?

Not a fan of the HDMI standard. It works ok, but there are a lot of things that could have been done better. most notably: power and reversibility.
 
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Skull Canyon ETA May 12th ish?
10 weeks to WWDC.
I think I saw this mentioned here -
to be introduced today in France:
"HP says its new ultra-thin laptop will out-innovate Apple"

It's probably focused on Macbook, not MBP.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/4/11359566/hp-apple-ultrathin-laptop-macbook-innovation-competition

I'm just not interested in a laptop with anything less than 15" screen size.
Makes me feel like an artist trying to paint a magnificent work on a post-it note. :)

Do they know something we don't?

Or are they just gonna turn round and say 'apple copied them this time'!?!?
 
ps. and they will ditch the d-gpu on the 15/16". though for my own sake, they did it already years ago by asking 2850€ for it, which i think is simply nuts.

Haha great comment. There have been some insightful comments in this thread. I still like OS X but depending on what the new MBP offers and how many ports it eliminates, moving to another platform is becoming more of a reality.
 
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Well here's the actual thing they released.. Spectre 13
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/5/11365474/hp-spectre-13-announced-price-specs-release-date
http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/05/hp-spectre-13-3/
Seems like an interesting device..

I wonder what gpus they have though...

Guess it points towards a race to the thinnest as possible whilst retaining a 'decent' level of power and not melting your lap!

Sure apple will win this one in the end...just hope they produce something special at the top end 15"!
 
VGA is an old dinosaur, and actual projectors already have hdmi, but I think at this point it doesnt matter at last. You would have to use anyway a mini HDMI to HDMI adaptor in the actual MBPs, a mini HDMI to VGA adaptor, etc. In this case it will be the same but with USB C/TB (which are the same for connectors, despite being different for protocols).

Just think that USB C connector will be the new standard, so anybody will have to jump on the boat sooner or later. Meanwhile, the only stuff that will need the the USB C to A adaptor are the pen drives, because almost anything else is attatched by a USB cable, which can be replaced instead: i.e having a USB type B to USB type A cable to your external soundcard, you'll only have to change it for a USB B to USB C cable. Same for external hard drives, gear, smartphones, and a big etc.

For now, if ultrabooks (which are the excellence of portability) are comming with USB C, which "suppose" using adaptors (see the point above), I don't see the flaws of using them in a working machine, if you'll have to pass throught this step anyway this year, the next or the other.

I guess some people are perfectly contempt with spending $2k on a laptop, but have a moral dilemma with buying a couple cables to replace their existing USB-A based ones.
 
I've reached the stage now where if the next MacBook is not a re design then I'm buying a Windows machine.

Seriously Apple, I've been waiting almost 15 months now

Yes. I'm already looking at Dell XPS etc.
Even if Apple has a decent redisgn, I might be shocked about Apples ideas regarding connectivity.

As an iOS Developer I need to connect a phone and I usually like using a mouse,
I need at least two usable ports AND power.

If Apple cuts back on that I buy a Linux Laptop and automatically build my Xcode stuff
on an old MacBook that already has OSX Server and Xcode bots.
 
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Well here's the actual thing they released.. Spectre 13
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/5/11365474/hp-spectre-13-announced-price-specs-release-date
http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/05/hp-spectre-13-3/
Seems like an interesting device..

I wonder what gpus they have though...

The only thing HP wins here is the 2 USB-C ports + Power. While it is a nice looking laptop, they missed a characteristic of MacBooks: Simplicity. The shiny plastic hinge trim doesn't make it look simple yet classy. It really ruined the whole look, honestly. They were trying too hard.
 
VGA is an old dinosaur, and actual projectors already have hdmi, but I think at this point it doesnt matter at last. You would have to use anyway a mini HDMI to HDMI adaptor in the actual MBPs, a mini HDMI to VGA adaptor, etc. In this case it will be the same but with USB C/TB (which are the same for connectors, despite being different for protocols).
I agree with you that VGA is an old dinosaur. But I assure you, I still regularly encounter projectors that only support VGA. As much as we would prefer otherwise, if you don't know the room you're going to be presenting in, you'd better bring a VGA adapter just in case.
 
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That HP had potential...

The screen resolution, large bezel, hinge, and price pretty much sucked out whatever potential it had.

Overall I think the design is real nice (PC standards), the choice to use core i is real cool, but the negatives outweigh those positives.

If it had a higher resolution screen, more subtle hinge, and a lower starting price it would have been a legit contender.
 
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Yes. I'm already looking at Dell XPS etc.
Even if Apple has a decent redisgn, I might be shocked about Apples ideas regarding connectivity.

As an iOS Developer I need to connect a phone and I usually like using a mouse,
I need at least two usable ports AND power.

If Apple cuts back on that I buy a Linux Laptop and automatically build my Xcode stuff
on an old MacBook that already has OSX Server and Xcode bots.

Maintaining multiple machines and doing professional work on "old" machines isn't an option for professionals.

As an iOS developer, how will you code on a Dell XPS?

Is buying a USB-C to iphone cable burdensome for you? Maybe a USB/USB-C dongley? You can use that with all your legacy peripherals.

Maybe Apple isn't for you at all?
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The only thing HP wins here is the 2 USB-C ports + Power. While it is a nice looking laptop, they missed a characteristic of MacBooks: Simplicity. The shiny plastic hinge trim doesn't make it look simple yet classy. It really ruined the whole look, honestly. They were trying too hard.

Meh. I'd say they just didn't care.

If you're stuck working as a mid-level tech/design specialist in a company like HP, you just go with the flow if you want to go home at 5pm.
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I guess some people are perfectly contempt with spending $2k on a laptop, but have a moral dilemma with buying a couple cables to replace their existing USB-A based ones.

Connecting up all your devices using USB-C cables is a step forward - USB-C isn't flimsy (like the USB and especially the "Micro USB" that the European Union are so fond of) and USB-C is reversible.

Those two reasons alone make spending $20 on a new cable a no-brainer.
 
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