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I was thinking, could the mass refresh in WWDC include a 40th anniversary edition? They could use that to showcase the crazy idea they had while the normal refresh being a but more tame?
 
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pmau said:
Yes. I'm already looking at Dell XPS etc.
Even if Apple has a decent redisgn, I might be shocked about Apples ideas regarding connectivity.

As an iOS Developer I need to connect a phone and I usually like using a mouse,
I need at least two usable ports AND power.

If Apple cuts back on that I buy a Linux Laptop and automatically build my Xcode stuff
on an old MacBook that already has OSX Server and Xcode bots.
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As much as I DO NOT WANT TO and hope none of my friends here take this the wrong way..I am also looking at getting a Dell if Apple does not come out a PRO Notebook. My dad always said, there is a time and place for everything and cutting out ports and not offering the most powerful possible mobile XEON, serious storage, and strong video performance is a MacBook, not a MacBook Pro.

So that brings me to a friendly question.. What makes a notebook Pro in your opinion? 2 extra cores? a little more memory? Is that a true mobile workstation from pros?

I have to admit, that I'm a Total Apple Junkie and don't shop around..but given this delay it peaked my interest in what else was available and i'm astounded by the powerful options available in Mobile Workstation Class notebooks from Dell & Lenovo. They are truly professional mobile workstations with desktop class CPUs, 17 inch LCD, multiple HDDs, even ECC Ram. I can probably even get OS X running on one them.

It's a tough choice, i want to stay on the Mac for a lot of reasons, probably the same as most of you. I still have my iMac at work (sitting next to my PC), and my Air at home... it's not like I'm bailing from the platform.. but I need a strong Mobile Workstation for home, the Air is for travel. So if Apple's pro offering is a hair more powerful then their standard offering..how can Apple really call that a professional mobile workstation, in comparison to what is on the market?

I think the rMBP should be in a class of its own, but a true mobile workstation with professional class graphics, CPU, and storage. My "personal expectations" are now higher than they were a few days ago.. it doesn't mean I expect Apple to meet them.

I need thin and light, ill buy the new MacBook.

Today, I actually put my 2007 MacBook Pro (in safe model so it runs) to use and it was so nice to be able to plug in an ethernet cable and the notebook didn't slide around on my desktop. Running 10.7, I configured a router... nearly 10 years old and still produces for me. Thats why I love Apple
 
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Maintaining multiple machines and doing professional work on "old" machines isn't an option for professionals.

As an iOS developer, how will you code on a Dell XPS?

Is buying a USB-C to iphone cable burdensome for you? Maybe a USB/USB-C dongley? You can use that with all your legacy peripherals.

Maybe Apple isn't for you at all?
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Meh. I'd say they just didn't care.

If you're stuck working as a mid-level tech/design specialist in a company like HP, you just go with the flow if you want to go home at 5pm.
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Connecting up all your devices using USB-C cables is a step forward - USB-C isn't flimsy (like the USB and especially the "Micro USB" that the European Union are so fond of) and USB-C is reversible.

Those two reasons alone make spending $20 on a new cable a no-brainer.
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Damn...I'm going in to work tomorrow with an "old" machine...what to do?
 
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itsamacthing said:
So if Apple's pro offering is a hair more powerful then their standard offering..how can Apple really call that a professional mobile workstation
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Are you claiming the 15" Macbook Pro is only a hair more powerful than 12" Macbook?
 
cmChimera said:
Are you claiming the 15" Macbook Pro is only a hair more powerful than 12" Macbook?
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No, let me clarify. Im taking about future releases, and I'm also looking at the full scope of mobile hardware in the market from Atom to Xeon. Given the full range, the MBP and MP are not so far apart (agree the MBP is much more powerful than the MB in terms of CPU).. But I think they should be much further apart, with the MBP moving further up the ladder with pro class graphics, connectivity, and storage. This would help to differentiate the "Pro" from the "consumers" class. A CPU and geek bench score doesn't make it pro..
 
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Oppenheim said:
Maintaining multiple machines and doing professional work on "old" machines isn't an option for professionals.

As an iOS developer, how will you code on a Dell XPS?

Is buying a USB-C to iphone cable burdensome for you? Maybe a USB/USB-C dongley? You can use that with all your legacy peripherals.

Maybe Apple isn't for you at all?
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Most of my development time is server side anyways.
My old 17" MacBook Pro runs ElCapitan and has a great display.

That's enough for Xcode.

But maybe you are right after all.
 
the macbook pro has more ports, more cpu power, more gpu power, better speakers (from 2016), more screen real estate...so its a lot to make it a pro
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pmau said:
Most of my development time is server side anyways.
My old 17" MacBook Pro runs ElCapitan and has a great display.

That's enough for Xcode.

But maybe you are right after all.
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we understand you are not a pretentious man, but for most of people more power=more time for themselves
 
A 40th Anniversary edition would be really cool! Modern but with the colourful Apple logo. As silly at it sounds, I bet they would sell a ton.
 
I've been really tempted to pick up a 13" MBP (don't ~need~ one, but I want a more portable laptop). I'm not necessarily a power user so why should I wait the 2+ months for Skylake? I'm somewhat worried that a redesign would bump up the cost of the MBP by a couple hundred dollars.
 
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BallparkDreamer said:
I've been really tempted to pick up a 13" MBP (don't ~need~ one, but I want a more portable laptop). I'm not necessarily a power user so why should I wait the 2+ months for Skylake? I'm somewhat worried that a redesign would bump up the cost of the MBP by a couple hundred dollars.
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Chance are the 2015 MBP will drop in price both from Apple directly and on resale sites, unless Apple seriously screws up and makes a terrible Skylake version. Wait 2 months for a few hundred dollars?
 
Guys, in the Internet you can read that Intel announced a new storage technology, its called "Intel Optane" and maybe its come in the new MBP 2016! If this is true, forget Skylake, this is the real ****! Its 1000 times faster than actual ssd's and 10 times faster than ram. This would be amazing
 
Don't get your hopes up.
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TheGamerzZ said:
Guys, in the Internet you can read that Intel announced a new storage technology, its called "Intel Optane" and maybe its come in the new MBP 2016! If this is true, forget Skylake, this is the real ****! Its 1000 times faster than actual ssd's and 10 times faster than ram. This would be amazing
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And expensive!
 
ssong said:
I was thinking, could the mass refresh in WWDC include a 40th anniversary edition? They could use that to showcase the crazy idea they had while the normal refresh being a but more tame?
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I would totally buy that!!!!!
Make it something like the PS4 anniversary edition...and they have my money. It would be a great idea.
[doublepost=1459910800][/doublepost]Im not too sure, but after reading this, I think it might be the OLED displays that are delaying the reveal.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...sign-patents-for-apple-watch-iphone-imac.html
 
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Serban said:
the macbook pro has more ports, more cpu power, more gpu power, better speakers (from 2016), more screen real estate...so its a lot to make it a pro
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Not being serious..okay? But let's talk about graphics
The rMBP comes with a AMD Radeon R9 M370X with 2GB of GDDR5. but I can buy a Dell with a AMD FirePro W7170M w/4GB GDDR5 or Nvidia Quadro M5000M w/8GB GDDR5 - Honestly, the rMBP does NOT come with PRO CLASS graphics.

I know this argument is somewhat pointless, like saying an Android phone has better specs than an iPhone, I will take the iPhone all day long because it runs iOS and the build quality is on another planet.. but I don't do my work on my iPhone, iOS is not a productivity environment.. it's a text, email, and phone call environment. ALSO, the difference in spec on the phones is small in comparison to the massive difference between graphics cards offered Apple v Dell for example. Graphics on the Mac are not pro, but Apple can fix this very easily.

I love Apple and excited to see the next rMBP, but I'm also realistic and what Apple currently calls Pro, not so much.
 
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TheGamerzZ said:
Guys, in the Internet you can read that Intel announced a new storage technology, its called "Intel Optane" and maybe its come in the new MBP 2016! If this is true, forget Skylake, this is the real ****! Its 1000 times faster than actual ssd's and 10 times faster than ram. This would be amazing
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Yep, but only Kaby lake will support it, Skylake doesn't.
 
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