They still have a month or two before the end of october after the H processors are released in Asia. Shouldn't be a problem to get them out in October. My money is waiting.
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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Also, you may wind up getting the new keyboard. For some people that will be a plus, but I tried it for two weeks and it drove me absolutely crazy. If Apple adopts that keyboard across the laptop line, I am going to be in trouble.
So which processor would be better to get? The Skylake H Core i7-6920 HQ or the Xeon E3-1535M v5? Assuming i can choose between these.
They release MacBooks with iPads all the time. Apple has never had an issue releasing multiple products at once.
People said exactly this when he rMBP was coming out. Why make it thinner when there is a MacBook Air? The answer is because people that want powerful computers still want portability.
Why it would it be stupid? The Xeons are just one set of many Skylake chips. If it would be "rushing things" to use them, it would be "rushing things" to use any Skylake chip at all.
From what I saw online it seems like the only GTe3 CPUs will be in the U series and they are all 28watts. The 28watts U CPUs won't be out until 2016. If Apple wants to release this year they have these options:
1. Use the Xeon/H Series GTe4 that's 45watts for the high end CPU configuration of the 13 and 15" and use weaker H series CPU(28 or 45w) with GTe2 for all others
2. Give Xeon GTe4 to the 15" high end CPU configuration and give weaker H series GTe2 for all other CPU configurations of the 15" and all 13"
3. Apple does some broken partial release where they only release a 15" Skylake rMBP using the Xeon GTe4 and waits until next year to release the 13" due to the 28w/GTe3 CPUs not being out until 2016.
4. Intel still hasn't announced the few mobile CPUs that Apple will be using: 28 or 45watts CPUs with 2 or 4 cores with GTe4 or GTe3.
1. Use the Xeon/H Series GTe4 that's 45watts for the high end CPU configuration of the 13 and 15" and use weaker H series CPU(28 or 45w) with GTe2 for all others
2. Give Xeon GTe4 to the 15" high end CPU configuration and give weaker H series GTe2 for all other CPU configurations of the 15" and all 13"
3. Apple does some broken partial release where they only release a 15" Skylake rMBP using the Xeon GTe4 and waits until next year to release the 13" due to the 28w/GTe3 CPUs not being out until 2016.
4. Intel still hasn't announced the few mobile CPUs that Apple will be using: 28 or 45watts CPUs with 2 or 4 cores with GTe4 or GTe3.
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I'm gonna guess 3B : update all sizes macbook pro at once when available which could be feb/mar 2016
Apple already did broken partial release with the 13" and 15" this year, I doubt they would let the 15" updated first rather than the 13" which came out first.
Based on this article: http://www.techradar.com/news/compu...anges-in-mind-for-the-new-macbook-pro-1302359 it seems most likely that a discrete GPU will be completely dumped.
Maybe external GPU expansion via TB3 will become more common and perhaps more importantly priced for the mass market.
Maybe external GPU expansion via TB3 will become more common and perhaps more importantly priced for the mass market.
With a desktop sized GPU going to always thrash a mobile discrete GPU, a TB3 external graphics card may easily become more attractive if it works - heck, haven't people wanted graphics card choice in a Mac?
A separate graphics card in a slim box does also get around the thermal limitations of any GPU in a MBP.
Didn't the 2012 retina MBP come out with the 15" first then the 13" (also releasing at the same time as a non retina MBP refresh too)?
A separate graphics card in a slim box does also get around the thermal limitations of any GPU in a MBP.
Didn't the 2012 retina MBP come out with the 15" first then the 13" (also releasing at the same time as a non retina MBP refresh too)?
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Intel is really pushing the idea of external GPU devices with the introduction of TB3. They've been available on TB2 but the price point is just far too high for mass adoption.
http://hexus.net/tech/news/peripherals/85697-thunderbolt-3-external-graphics-demoed-idf-2015/
If Apple are really smart they should design a matching external GPU device to go with the new rMBP.
http://hexus.net/tech/news/peripherals/85697-thunderbolt-3-external-graphics-demoed-idf-2015/
If Apple are really smart they should design a matching external GPU device to go with the new rMBP.
I've been saying this for quite a while but the resistance on this forum against seeing the dGPU gone for good is astounding. Heck, the GT4e is faster in compute performance than the M370X in the rMBP (GT4e: 1152 GFLOPS vs M370X: 992 GFLOPS. Hopefully, the dGPU will be removed in the next release. A Thunderbolt 3 solution would be the very best of both worlds. A slim, portable laptop, with the performance of a desktop. Just imagine a Titan X or Fury X connected via Thunderbolt 3, the performance increase would be enormous while giving the user a choice of GPU. Also the CPU won't have to throttle down just because the nuclear reactor (dGPU) next to it produces too much heat relative to the thickness of the rMBP. The only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on a 15" rMBP is because I'm waiting for Thunderbolt 3, not Skylake per se. Since the Alpine Ridge Thunderbolt 3 controller can be paired with a Broadwell CPU, I wouldn't even care if the next release has Broadwell but also a Thunderbolt 3 port. Skylake for me is an afterthought, I just want that port.
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Apple should not dump the dGPU. You can't just carry around a giant external graphics card, which eliminates a lot of the usefulness of having a portable workstation. And adds a tremendous amount of cost to the purchasing of a MacBook Pro. This is not a MacBook Air, where power is traded off for portability. Having a dGPU does not eliminate the possibility of using an external graphics card either.
But it baffles me that anyone would want to see Apple remove a significant part(do not compare this to an optical drive, which really isn't used, and can be bought for like $30) of the MacBook Pro and force users to spend hundreds of dollars MORE, on and external solution. Makes no sense.
But it baffles me that anyone would want to see Apple remove a significant part(do not compare this to an optical drive, which really isn't used, and can be bought for like $30) of the MacBook Pro and force users to spend hundreds of dollars MORE, on and external solution. Makes no sense.
Oh no, I would never imagine carrying that thing around lol. The eGPU would only be used when returning to your desk or office. When moving around for work, the GT4e shall suffice.
Why is it baffling?
If Intel can provide the same (or better) graphics capability as part of their chipset why would you need a dGPU?
To be clear I am not suggesting that Apple dump the dGPU and leave us with a crappy internal graphics capability which has the option of being enhanced by an external unit.
Exactly, I really don't care if they still include the dGPU, but the GT4e surpasses current solutions. I don't know what kind of dGPU people expect on the next release. The 960m is too hot for the rMBP, the 950m has around the same OpenCL performance as the GT4e, and Pascal isn't launching till H2 2016. So dGPU choices are going to be very limited.
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I believe there are also significant power management/consumption advantages of the Intel based offering.
Saying the GT4e may surpass what's CURRENTLY in the Macbook Pro isn't saying a whole lot. It's not like AMD or Nvidia just stopped making chips. There is usually an option for a 15" with no dGPU. That should remain an option, but it seems beyond a terrible idea to me, to completely remove the option of a dGPU just for portability's sake. A lot of people would probably not like that.
Well AMD's Artic Islands and Nvidia's Pascal architecture are due for the 2H of 2016. So that means an October 2016 release of a Skylake rMBP if you want those. Again, I couldn't care less if the dGPU option still remains, I'll still go for the highest configurable option anyway, with or without dGPU (whatever they decide to do). I just want TB3
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Again, I couldn't care less if the dGPU option still remains, I'll still go for the highest configurable option anyway. I just want TB3
Lets just hope that Apple doesn't screw up or prevent the External GPU via Thunderbolt 3 somehow.
Would be nice if it worked on OSX without having to edit kext files every time you update the OS.
Yeah, sometimes they have made questionable decisions just to turn back on them. Maybe at first it will be prohibited or something, just to be enabled later with a software update. Or maybe they will just fully support the idea from the beginning. I think they will fully support it because TB3 supports hot pluggin while TB2 doesn't. That's the reason eGPUs are finally being supported by Intel and hopefully Apple.
For the sanity of many here I hope this can be dismissed as just a rumour:
"Intel hasn't released specifics about Skylake or its integrated Gen9 graphics at IDF 2015, opting instead to focus on wearables, RealSense and the Internet of Things. However, Intel has made significant progress with boosting its integrated graphics, two Intel insiders told techradar independently, which will "soon result in Apple transitioning its MacBook Pro [solely] to Intel graphics."
Today's most expensive 15-inch MacBook Pro configuration comes with a discrete AMD Radeon R9 M370X graphics, but that may no longer be the case in the future if our intel on Intel is accurate."
:"Intel hasn't released specifics about Skylake or its integrated Gen9 graphics at IDF 2015, opting instead to focus on wearables, RealSense and the Internet of Things. However, Intel has made significant progress with boosting its integrated graphics, two Intel insiders told techradar independently, which will "soon result in Apple transitioning its MacBook Pro [solely] to Intel graphics."
Today's most expensive 15-inch MacBook Pro configuration comes with a discrete AMD Radeon R9 M370X graphics, but that may no longer be the case in the future if our intel on Intel is accurate."
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