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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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cmChimera said:
But it baffles me that anyone would want to see Apple remove a significant part(do not compare this to an optical drive, which really isn't used, and can be bought for like $30) of the MacBook Pro and force users to spend hundreds of dollars MORE, on and external solution. Makes no sense.
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That's exactly what they did the Macbook, except ports are mandatory and a dGPU is not (you can skate by on an iGPU on the road and use the TB3 at home).
 
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BicepsofPower said:
That's exactly what they did the Macbook, except ports are mandatory and a dGPU is not (you can skate by on an iGPU on the road and use the TB3 at home).
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The MacBook doesn't serve the same purpose as he MacBook Pro. You may be able to "skate" by with integrated graphics when not at home, but that's presumptuous to say that everyone should.

We're not going to agree on this. To me it makes no sense to say a notebook is a portable workstation, but is only a workstation when you're at home. Obviously y'all disagree, but in my opinion it'd be terrible move on Apple's part to get rid of a dGPU option.
 
cmChimera said:
The MacBook doesn't serve the same purpose as he MacBook Pro. You may be able to "skate" by with integrated graphics when not at home, but that's presumptuous to say that everyone should.

We're not going to agree on this. To me it makes no sense to say a notebook is a portable workstation, but is only a workstation when you're at home. Obviously y'all disagree, but in my opinion it'd be terrible move on Apple's part to get rid of a dGPU option.
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So essentially what you are saying is that you would like a dGPU despite the possibilty that the onboard GPU is more powerful?
 
n7g said:
So essentially what you are saying is that you would like a dGPU despite the possibilty that the onboard GPU is more powerful?
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No. I'm saying Apple could opt to have a more powerful dGPU than what is currently offered in the Macbook Pro.
 
n7g said:
Intel is really pushing the idea of external GPU devices with the introduction of TB3. They've been available on TB2 but the price point is just far too high for mass adoption.

http://hexus.net/tech/news/peripherals/85697-thunderbolt-3-external-graphics-demoed-idf-2015/

If Apple are really smart they should design a matching external GPU device to go with the new rMBP.
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Indeed! I don't need massive GPU power when I'm on the road (without an power-outlet) and love more/better battery life but at home I'd like to use the full power. Bring back the laptop Dock with integrated dGPU and ad the 5K support to create an iMac on the road idea.
 
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cmChimera said:
No. I'm saying Apple could opt to have a more powerful dGPU than what is currently offered in the Macbook Pro.
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Yes but as OSX7 mentioned earlier, there are no new dGPUs for Apple to use that have any noticable performance advantage over the GT4e in Skylake. The dGPUs available today will only be an extra component that consumes more power and produces more heat inside the MBP.

Anyway, I think TB3 is looking really good. Imagine an eGPU, slightly bigger than the MBP charger that connects with a single USB-C to provide a better GPU and charge the MacBook at the same time.
 
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With Apple stock going down the drain they really need a strong lineup of laptops comes October.
 
Frenchiex said:
With Apple stock going down the drain they really need a strong lineup of laptops comes October.
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Even though I've (probably) got no love for an iPad "Pro" I think a combined event focusing on the pros would be beneficial for Apple. Imagine new iPad Pro, Macbook Pros and Mac Pro. If Apple were to show the pros some love, after a couple of years of heavy consumer focus, I think the stock will go up. We've already seen a new focus towards pros/corporate with the IBM deal. But sure, Wall Street loves consumers haha.
 
Less than 10% of Apple's revenue comes from Macs. Also given that Macs are currently outselling Windows PCs in the States I doubt Apple feel the need to do anything spectacular.
 
n7g said:
Less than 10% of Apple's revenue comes from Macs. Also given that Macs are currently outselling Windows PCs in the States I doubt Apple feel the need to do anything spectacular.
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Sure, OS X might be outselling Windows but if you look at market share Windows still has around 92% of the global market compared to OS X's 6-ish percent. So even though Apple's Mac revenue is small there's still an incentive to keep selling macs. But sure, the Mac downhill started when Apple went from "Apple Computer Inc." to "Apple Inc." hehe ;)
 
if the new Skylake MBPs were around the corner (late October release), we would already have reports from Mark Gurman or Ming Chi Kuo.
 
n7g said:
Less than 10% of Apple's revenue comes from Macs. Also given that Macs are currently outselling Windows PCs in the States I doubt Apple feel the need to do anything spectacular.
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Worse, a lot of the Windows PC revenues comes from race-to-the-bottom low-margin hardware that produces revenues due to volume but precious little income. Apple doesn't need to compete in that part of the PC market.
 
newellj said:
Worse, a lot of the Windows PC revenues comes from race-to-the-bottom low-margin hardware that produces revenues due to volume but precious little income. Apple doesn't need to compete in that part of the PC market.
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Of course they don't but they wouldn't fall behind PC vendors in performance a whole processor generation.
 
GubbyMan said:
Yes but as OSX7 mentioned earlier, there are no new dGPUs for Apple to use that have any noticable performance advantage over the GT4e in Skylake. The dGPUs available today will only be an extra component that consumes more power and produces more heat inside the MBP.

Anyway, I think TB3 is looking really good. Imagine an eGPU, slightly bigger than the MBP charger that connects with a single USB-C to provide a better GPU and charge the MacBook at the same time.
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Wonder if the purported ACD refresh would actually include option to contain a swappable (unlikely but hey) graphics card?

A 5k monitor that *sped up* your laptop when it was docked. That'd be nice. Could see the 3rd party dock market pick up external graphics cards as a differentiator. Guess we'll see.

Metal has from WWDC Sessions made things GPU limited - so it'd be nuts to limit the machines GPU capability. Wonder what Apple will be doing with that L4 eDRAM cache.
 
Or Apple could sell a Thunderbolt 3 graphics card enclosure with some nice Jony Ive pizazz and the user could pick the graphics card they want.
 
MacFather said:
if the new Skylake MBPs were around the corner (late October release), we would already have reports from Mark Gurman or Ming Chi Kuo.
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Im so lost on what to do. I got money to spend on new laptops by the end of the year and I dont know if I should just wait it out or just buy some new macbook pros right now.
 
farbods0 said:
Im so lost on what to do. I got money to spend on new laptops by the end of the year and I dont know if I should just wait it out or just buy some new macbook pros right now.
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I would just buy a new laptop if you are in need of one. I highly doubt Skylake MBP will come out before the end of the year, more like 2016 Q1/Q2. If you are willing to wait until then, I won't stop you.
 
cmChimera said:
Wait until the end of October unless you have to have one right now.
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I dont have to have one right now but the student discount is very appealing if nothing gets released. *sigh* if only an apple rep can confirm these rumors
 
I was in the same boat when upgrading my MBA. Basically the money was burning a hole in my pocket, but then I asked myself 'what really is the next model going to offer over the current rMBP' other than possibly fewer ports and a slight performance increase, so I went for the current model and couldn't be happier.
 
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t0mat0 said:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...phics-solutions-with-thunderbolt-3-interface/

Anandtexh covering a DIY TB2 attempt http://www.anandtech.com/show/7987/running-an-nvidia-gtx-780-ti-over-thunderbolt-2

A TB3 Hexus graphics dock http://m.hexus.net/tech/news/peripherals/85697-thunderbolt-3-external-graphics-demoed-idf-2015/


Intel seems to be officially endorsing and promoting external graphics through a dock or chassis.
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Yeah that video has been out for a while but I do like the fact that they say that these will be out by the end of the year. It might indicate rMPR release this year.
 
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