I'll agree that updates should be regular. That being said, i'm not entirely sure that annual updates are strictly necessary. as long as i know that the product i want is coming, and roughly when it's coming, i can plan around/for that.
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I'll agree that updates should be regular. That being said, i'm not entirely sure that annual updates are strictly necessary. as long as i know that the product i want is coming, and roughly when it's coming, i can plan around/for that.
Not trying to be funny but iPad lineup applied to Mac portables would actually be:
MB Air 11" 2013
MB Air 11" 2015
MB 12" 2015
MBP 12" 2016
MBP 14" 2016
If they do, i really really hope they put in the same keyboard as the Magic Keyboard.
I walked in an Apple store yesterday and compared the keyboard on the MB to the rMBP keyboard and the new Magic Keyboard. I must say the Magic Keyboard has very little travel and feels very very nice, solid and consistent. It has just the right amount of key travel and snappiness.
When I went from the Magic Keyboard to the rMBP keyboard you could really tell it was less snappy, they keys itself were a bit loose if you rested your finger on em, and felt rather wonky. I made 0 spelling mistakes on the Magic Keyboard, a few on the rMBP but I couldn't even handle the MB keyboard.
It is the worst keyboard I have ever typed on. Yes, i know you have to get used to it but writing long texts like this would be absolutely unpleasant.
My 2 cents on the keyboards.
Thunderbolt3, yes. Delivered over USB-C. My Android phone is USB-C and it's a wonderfully designed connector. I've seen it on the MacBook where it works fantastic.
Oh I agree wholeheartedly. The rMB keyboard is such absolute **** compared to the rMBP's and the Magic Keyboard.
The keys are too big and close together, it's impossible to type without looking at the leyboard 'cause I can't feel where my fingers are.
With proper spacing between keys you can more easily feel your way around without looking.
The rMB's keyboard is like a physical iPad keyboard and I hate it oh, oh so much.
Is there a design flaw or is it just something you're not used to?
I've used the MacBook keyboard for a brief period and as a touch typist, I found no issues. Sure it would take a while to get used to a new keyboard (I use a Das Keyboard at my Linux workstation), but I don't see any tangible reasons why the MacBook keyboard is allegedly so ****.
I've been using the rMB keyboard regularly since it came out. I also use several other keyboards each day. I've noticed my typing error rate tends to be higher on the rMB. I've been trying to understand why, as it feels great to me. I think the issue is there is insufficient tactile feedback on where your fingers are located on the keys, and your fingers do not "self-center" as they rest on each key. My logitech K810 and Dell Latitude 6430u keyboards both have sweetspots on each key that you can feel, allowing the finger to find the center and remain there throughout the key press, travel, and return.
This is my experience as well. You have to learn to not "thump" the keys, but to let your fingers brush them. And in doing so, it's easy to drop keystrokes. I don't think this is a "getting used to it" issue, it's fundamental to the lack of travel and, as you say, lack of tactile feedback.
I'll leave this here:
Link of September 2014 article: http://jackgmarch.com/2014/09/22/exclusive-12-macbook-air-design-details/
A thinner rMBP than the MBA...I'm excited
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Source: http://jackgmarch.com/2016/04/11/the-end-of-apple-macbook-ipad-air-brand/
Link of September 2014 article: http://jackgmarch.com/2014/09/22/exclusive-12-macbook-air-design-details/
A thinner rMBP than the MBA...I'm excited
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The rMB is a prototype design - meant to show how far Apple can push themselves in terms of design. I'm certainly sure that they're going to ditch their butterfly mechanism in favor of the redesigned Magic Keyboard scissor mechanism, and just rename it to butterfly 2.0 lol. Guaranteed the rMB keyboard will not pass over to the new rMBP or even the next rMB.
Key travel is necessary...unless you want sore finger tips.
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There is really someone who needs a 13" Retina MacBook Air?
The biggest problem I had with removing the Air was that the MacBook has these downsides: high cost; single, not yet widely adopted port; weak processing power. I've since changed my outlook a bit.
I was comparing the rMB mostly to the MBA, as are most of us, but the truest comparison should be to the iPad: fanless device, super compact, typing experience takes some getting used to, etc. Remember that the iPad Pros can be more powerful than the rMB and are becoming more and more enticing with Apple Pencil, multi-tasking, etc.
So, who were/are buying MacBook Airs? Students, older people, really any user on a budget who wants to get on the internet. They don't care about processing power or internals; they trust they get superior quality from any Apple product.
So, for this demographic... why would you need a laptop? Apple is absolutely correct in that regard. iPads offer more bang for the buck, especially if the users already have iPhones; they're getting another device that runs the iOS that they already know and love. Goodbye learning curve. iPhone SE and 9.7" iPad Pro is a fantastic combo.
The rMB isn't the MBA replacement; the iPad Pro is. The rMB is an iPad with a dedicated keyboard and without a touch-screen. It's for the users who aren't quite yet to go entirely wireless, hence the single USB-C port. The iPad has no ports; so the single USB-C port is an addition, not a subtraction. The rMB also has the potential to drop significantly in price over time, like to iPad Pro levels. So Apple would offer two similar, yet distinct experiences to this demographic.
So, the rMB doesn't need to drop significantly in price for the MBA to be ousted; because the iPad Pros are already here.
I'm also tired of people rehashing the same "I think the rMB will replace the MBA, we're going to have 12"/14" rMB and 14"/16" MBP; they need to simplify the lineup" comment and passing it off as an original, innovative thought. Seriously, we get it. This isn't an original idea anymore and pops up on every Apple community.
I'm on the same page as you. I just don't know if Apple is too. Let's hope they are!
Praying for that awesome Magic Keyboard boyy
Funny because the reality of what the products are is exactly the opposite.
They are going from Good (Air) vs Better (Pro) to Meh (MB) vs Good (MBP)
Interestingly enough (?) I bought an Air last year. I am not a student. Older people don't buy Macbooks, my mom's understanding of computers stretches all the way to finding the Word icon on Desktop in Windows and double-clicking it. If I gave her a Macbook she'd cry for help because the Word icon would be in the Dock and she wouldn't know what to do. People on a budget who want to get on the Internet buy Chromebooks.
I bought an Air because of OS X and the keyboard. It's the best laptop keyboard I have ever used. I type a lot, and rMB keyboard was as pleasant as banging my fingers on the desk. I have an i5 processor and 8 GB RAM which allows me to run most of the software I use – I have the iMac to use when making music or editing huge Photoshop files, the Air is powerful enough to do all the rest. I didn't buy a rMB because I DO care about processing power and internals and what rMB has to offer is nowhere near what I expect from a €1449 computer. I've spent enough time with Windows, Linux of various flavours and OS X to know I want a Mac. If I had more money to spend I'd buy the i7 8 GB Air. I'd consider the rMB with its Core M if it cost €449, not 1449. I use USB3 and a SD card.
I'm 38 though, so maybe I am an older person to a lot of this forum's members.
Still no legit rumors? Looks like Apple in their brilliance will only update the MB and iMac moving forward... You would think, though, they would give the MBP one last chance before letting it go the way of the MP... Kind of like the MPs last ditch effort before calling it quits...
Hope I'm wrong...
Hope I'm wrong...
I think their plan is to keep it quiet until they're ready.
There's definitively something wrong.
And remember, guys: if your main plan fails...
The problem is bulging right in my face.
Would it be worth it to buy a Macbook 12" 512gb for $700? Reason it's $700 is it has been dropped and has a dent in one of the corners. Thanks and also it doesn't have skylake in it that's probably another reason.
Does it have Skylake in it?
Seriously that sounds like a decent price, but I'd question the longevity of it because of the drop and because of the processor.
You are totally missing the point. My logic was that a real competitor in CPU manufacturing would translate in more competition, thus more improvements, so it would benefit the final user, neither Apple would be restricted to Intel's pace. Now computer CPU manufacturing is a monopoly that belongs to Intel, and they do whatever they want with it, since AMD is no longer a real comptetitor and is far behind.
I've never said that annual updates were a must, that was your assumtion (first flaw), but definitely annual updates are nothing to be against in hardware. The fact you don't buy a new computer each year, neither me or most of us, doesn't mean there shouldn't be annual updates. No one forces you to update your laptop every year, but you have the option.
Taking it to an extreme: should Apple update Macs only every 4-5 years since it's the average lifetime of the Macs before users buy a new one? There are people with an already 4 yo MBP, so shouldn't they receive their annual update just because you or some others bought one last year? No problem! lets make them wait just a few more years...
I'd say: who really doesn't want that? We've been having annual Intel updates till 2 years ago, and nobody complained like "oh dude, if Intel releases new CPU's each year and Apple updates Macs with them, my Mac will become older much sooner!". Again: nobody forces you to buy every year, but you have the option to.
Btw, have you been following this thread? Seeing how upset people is getting by the Apple/Intel delays on new MBPs for having just a 2yo CPU inside, after having a refresh just the last year, imagine how would it be if now Apple decided to update in 2 years instead of this summer. Then ask yourself again "Who really wants that?".
I'm sorry but I don't see there's any logic in your argument.
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