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Oh damn, my childhood just showed up on this thread.
~feels~
Reposting this because whynot:
I'm with you. Still rockin' a mid 2009 13"... Going back to school in August, and am looking forward to upgrading. Just hoping they don't make it super thin/lose tons of ports. Might have to go with a 2015 refurb too.
At this point, I'm okay with the MBP having a rMB keyboard. Half of the time I'll have it hooked up to a mechanical keyboard, or I can at least get used to the typing experience. What's not excusable at this point is not having Skylake, not having an up-to-date dGPU, and catching up with TB3. Hell, I'm even hoping that if the dGPU isn't that great, that the TB3 will allow for us to use an eGPU.
Just wondering what performance boost can I expect from a top-end skylake rMBP mid 2016? I know it will probably be immense, but I never really knew how powerful the i7 (dual-core I know..) in my mid 2011 MBA is. Some info would be much appreciated 
EDIT: Oh and how would Polaris affect my everyday use? I understand it is a GPU so would it only affect the performance when gaming or also when watching movies, for example? I know I am quite the novice in this field so I hope I don't seem too clueless.
EDIT: Oh and how would Polaris affect my everyday use? I understand it is a GPU so would it only affect the performance when gaming or also when watching movies, for example? I know I am quite the novice in this field so I hope I don't seem too clueless.
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Early 2008 MacBook for me.
Really can't stand those "My MacBook Pro late 2013 is getting pretty old" guys who srsly consider buying a new one just for the period till Skylake update.
I need to start saving up moneyyyyy. Upgrading to Skylake would be so amazing. I currently have a 2011 model and it's scratched and chipped and has brought me too much trouble over the years (graphics problems, fans, etc.)
I'll be so excited when I upgrade, and immediately shoving it in a case and take really good care of it
I'll be so excited when I upgrade, and immediately shoving it in a case and take really good care of it
anyone think there will be a silent release by end of may? Starting to feel the lag of more complex models in auto cad from my 2012 mba with 4 gb of ram... it probably won't handle revit with parallels?
Was hoping to take an auto cad summer class to be a little ahead for fall semester but if theres no release I could hold off....
Was hoping to take an auto cad summer class to be a little ahead for fall semester but if theres no release I could hold off....
if a silent release happens before may i'll be severely disappointed, because it's probably going to be just a refresh.
WWDC has enough time everything, doesn't it?
WWDC has enough time everything, doesn't it?
Silent update will be wonderful, why ? Because there is still a chance that we not gonna have an update during WWDC.
Can anyone here recall the WWDC in 2012? Were there a good amount of rumors of the rMBP release way before the WWDC?
No price drop on the rMB means the new Pro will likely be $1499 for the 13 inch base model, possibly $1599.
I'm quite pessimistic about it now, got a feeling it will be a big letdown and people will really hate the compromises made on the new Pro machine.
I'm quite pessimistic about it now, got a feeling it will be a big letdown and people will really hate the compromises made on the new Pro machine.
My late 2011 is barely holding on....WWDC better be it for the 15" pro!!!!
Get the Google Machine out yourself and see, there weren't rumors until a month before WWDC. After today, I'd say the 2016 (if, you know, it debuts at WWDC) is much more heavily spoiled already.
I think you're right; I'm guessing $1499 for the base 13" MBP as well. However, I think this would be for a 256GB model, so it would actually be the same price as the current 256GB 13" MBP. I suspect Apple will drop the 128GB version.
I'll be glad if they make the 2016 rMBP start at 256GB, 128GB is waaay too little. Oh, and it'd also be pretty cool if the 13" has 16GB of RAM as standard like the 15" model, but that's wishful thinking ahaha
It's not just about age, but 'mileage' too.
A casual user will keep their MacBook longer than a video editor, for example. The latter will also need to upgrade more frequently to keep up with spec requirements in their field and an increasing workload (if they are good at their job!)
most of people expected second USB-C, 720p webcamera, and probably TB-3 support. All Apple did - added a new color (despite ridiculous cpu update).
I think they've just done the classic apple thing of minor ( very) spec bumps on a relatively new product...I think we'll see a bit more evolution with the rMBP...or maybe a bit of 'devolution' if some rumours are correct!
like a pro engineer said, putting a 720p into that thin and light lid, cause apple to re-think the hinge balance.
second usb-c neeh, they said that, but thunderbolt 3-usb-c would be nice. So i guess that was the only think they go wrong, they could make the band for driving 4k @60hz
second usb-c neeh, they said that, but thunderbolt 3-usb-c would be nice. So i guess that was the only think they go wrong, they could make the band for driving 4k @60hz
It would be absolutely insane if apple would skip on Thunderbolt 3 with the rMBP.
It baffles me that they skipped Thunderbolt 3 for the iMac and MB.
Maybe they are saving the wow factor for the rMBP.
But that just doesn't make sense. I could understand if the hardware inside both the iMac and MB can't support TB3 that they would skip it, but as far as I know they are both capable of handling TB3. So what's going on Apple?
Are they skipping this revolutionary port or do they have a very skewed marketing strategy?
It baffles me that they skipped Thunderbolt 3 for the iMac and MB.
Maybe they are saving the wow factor for the rMBP.
But that just doesn't make sense. I could understand if the hardware inside both the iMac and MB can't support TB3 that they would skip it, but as far as I know they are both capable of handling TB3. So what's going on Apple?
Are they skipping this revolutionary port or do they have a very skewed marketing strategy?
The 2nd USB-C port was not a realistic expectation in my opinion. Apple could easily have included 2 USB-C ports int he original design. They made a strong decision to go with only 1 port, and committed to it. Adding a 2nd port now would have been admitting defeat, and setting pack their "vision" of the future's port-less PC.
The 720p camera is definitely somewhere they fell short. In my opinion, the changes they're going to make to the rMB in the next couple of years are going to be minor, so i guess they wanted to space out the inclusion of new features as much as possible. So this time, it was better proc + new color, next year it'll be new proc (not even sure) + 720p camera (or maybe 1080p), that way they'll have a fuller "new features" section when the update hits the market.
TB3 is just a shame. I really hope we get TB3 on the pros, although i'm not running a 4K monitor @ 60hz
I fear for what will come at WWDC. Because... you remember the time before Steve Jobs came back and revolutionize Apple together with Johny? Before that time Apple had fragmented products all over the place for different markets. It's getting right there again. I think Apple should refocus razor sharp like it once was... if I had a say in product lineups and placement it'd be the following:
Phones
there should just be "the iPhone" with no number, it would be referred to the same as the macs, "late 2012" or "early 2015". That way people just buy "the iPhone" and always get the latest that's currently available. The update-circle is predictable so people can wait to upgrade if they prefer to.
The revised iPhones (now the S) I would call the PRO. Always. So there's the 2016 iPhone and later the 2016 PRO. The normal iPhone is the smaller 4,7 inch form factor with a friendly entrance fee and friggin 32 GB memory to begin with. No Phablet Plus (I'll come to that later). Colours should be: silver, white, space grey, gold, rose gold and maybe for the heck of it galaxy blue or something. In the larger PRO variants I'd offer DUAL SIM support for pro-business users. Charge them big time for more internal memory or an extra-extra premium for an micro SD slot for further memory expansion. If they want to do something fancy with an iPhone once in a while (maybe underwater iPhone or whatever) call it "iPhone SE".
Tablets
there should be just the "iPad" and the "iPad Pro", same naming conventions and colours like the iPhones. They are both the same size. Difference is that the iPad Pro in addition to being more powerful and probably having more accessoires like the pencil and keyboard also feature one thunderbolt/usb-c connector for "pro" accessoires AND the ability to upgrade your memory via micro SD AND use not one, but two sims in there (for calls/data or for business/private) thus eliminating the ugly "phablet" form factor. If Apple wants to do something fancy here and there with their tablet, call it "iPad SE".
portable Macs
Here as well I'd have just the normal one's, PRO one's and if I want something fancy (like what I would categorize the current rMB in) call it SE. Have all the same colours again. Have a nice entrylevel (below 1000 bucks) macbook offering. Make it 13" only, no dGPU, give it options to upgrade and a good amount of ports, could maybe have a similar formfactor to the current 13" air. Then have the PRO machines, 13" and 15" (maybe even 17") similar to current rMBP with all the ports you could need and NO intention of going thinner just for the sake of it, rather use free'd up space by smaller components for more battery or stronger components. Offer WITH and WITHOUT dGPU depending on use case, all PRO machines features thunderbolt and eGPU support. No sacrfice of power for thinness.
Macs
iMacs: same naming conventions, same colours. Let's have 21" (or what the current form factor is) and 24" iMac as the consumer-grade standalone all in one desktop. Give it fair amount of ports, dGPU option in the bigger model as well as eGPU support, price the smaller model as entry level-friendly as possible. User-upgradeable RAM at least.
Mac mini: same form factor and bring back the glory of old days, quad core CPU, user-upgradeable, nice selection of ports, 3 variants, starting with a 400,- dualcore version for entry level buyers.
Mac pro: ditch the trashcan, go back to modular design with upgrade options and give users the ability to use "mac certified" hardware off the shelf. Be a player in the PRO field again. Use multidice server architecture for wild rendering and cpu performance, dGPUs for different setups (technical drawing VS rendering VS movie editing etc...) ALSO have additional eGPU support.
Thoughts?
Phones
there should just be "the iPhone" with no number, it would be referred to the same as the macs, "late 2012" or "early 2015". That way people just buy "the iPhone" and always get the latest that's currently available. The update-circle is predictable so people can wait to upgrade if they prefer to.
The revised iPhones (now the S) I would call the PRO. Always. So there's the 2016 iPhone and later the 2016 PRO. The normal iPhone is the smaller 4,7 inch form factor with a friendly entrance fee and friggin 32 GB memory to begin with. No Phablet Plus (I'll come to that later). Colours should be: silver, white, space grey, gold, rose gold and maybe for the heck of it galaxy blue or something. In the larger PRO variants I'd offer DUAL SIM support for pro-business users. Charge them big time for more internal memory or an extra-extra premium for an micro SD slot for further memory expansion. If they want to do something fancy with an iPhone once in a while (maybe underwater iPhone or whatever) call it "iPhone SE".
Tablets
there should be just the "iPad" and the "iPad Pro", same naming conventions and colours like the iPhones. They are both the same size. Difference is that the iPad Pro in addition to being more powerful and probably having more accessoires like the pencil and keyboard also feature one thunderbolt/usb-c connector for "pro" accessoires AND the ability to upgrade your memory via micro SD AND use not one, but two sims in there (for calls/data or for business/private) thus eliminating the ugly "phablet" form factor. If Apple wants to do something fancy here and there with their tablet, call it "iPad SE".
portable Macs
Here as well I'd have just the normal one's, PRO one's and if I want something fancy (like what I would categorize the current rMB in) call it SE. Have all the same colours again. Have a nice entrylevel (below 1000 bucks) macbook offering. Make it 13" only, no dGPU, give it options to upgrade and a good amount of ports, could maybe have a similar formfactor to the current 13" air. Then have the PRO machines, 13" and 15" (maybe even 17") similar to current rMBP with all the ports you could need and NO intention of going thinner just for the sake of it, rather use free'd up space by smaller components for more battery or stronger components. Offer WITH and WITHOUT dGPU depending on use case, all PRO machines features thunderbolt and eGPU support. No sacrfice of power for thinness.
Macs
iMacs: same naming conventions, same colours. Let's have 21" (or what the current form factor is) and 24" iMac as the consumer-grade standalone all in one desktop. Give it fair amount of ports, dGPU option in the bigger model as well as eGPU support, price the smaller model as entry level-friendly as possible. User-upgradeable RAM at least.
Mac mini: same form factor and bring back the glory of old days, quad core CPU, user-upgradeable, nice selection of ports, 3 variants, starting with a 400,- dualcore version for entry level buyers.
Mac pro: ditch the trashcan, go back to modular design with upgrade options and give users the ability to use "mac certified" hardware off the shelf. Be a player in the PRO field again. Use multidice server architecture for wild rendering and cpu performance, dGPUs for different setups (technical drawing VS rendering VS movie editing etc...) ALSO have additional eGPU support.
Thoughts?
Most people were waiting for those features. rMB12 is not popular because of that limitations. Who cares what Apple see. Lots of their product weren't successful during their history.
What I am sure of, that the customer decides what he/she needs. Sometimes we don't know what do we need, but in case of laptops, we have a great experience. Anyway we will plug for a long time at least electric cable into socket... we can't avoid plug-in things.
I consider rMB12 as a demo toy really. Prelude to something that will be in 3-4 years.
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Your comments are fair, and I tend to agree with them. I would never buy a laptop that only has one port.
The thing is, neither you nor me are the intended market for the product. Just because it doesn't suit our needs, doesn't mean it doesn't suit anyone's.
I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of people for whom the rMB is all the computer they'll ever need. We'll have to make do with the pros
My late 2013 13" rMBP was stolen last week. I'll give it a month or so for the police to look out for it and in the mean time I can decide whether to get the current 15" or wait until June (13" just felt small since I took on photography).
I personally don't mind it being thinner as long performance and functionality is not sacrificed. I don't mind them switching a TB or USB-A port to a USB-C port, just hope it's not JUST 2/3 USB-C ports as some rumours suggest. My greatest concern with it being thinner is the thermal management, this was a huge problem when they first released the rMBP back in 2012 but it's being solved subsequently with refreshes. and yeah, PLEASE NO BUTTERFLY KEYBOARDS
I'll have my money ready and once the WWDC announcement is made it's either I rush out to the nearest store and grab a ready stocked 2015 15" or I'll preorder the new 15" on the website.
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