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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Almost to 400 pages like everyone has been talking about. Why the teardown pic? Is there a teardown pic of the macbook 12"?
I know right? I'm going to have to go back to the gym once I upgrade from my mid2012 15" cMBP. One of the other hidden costs of "going Retina" with soldered RAM and storage, I guess.
I'll admit I lost it for a minute when I saw that pathetic little press release for the upgraded 12-inch MacBook. Been scrambling ever since to decipher what it means for the future. In my dreams, the 12-inch portends a new line of 14-inch and 16-inch MacBooks, getting an extra inch of screen out of the 13-inch and 15-inch size bodies by thinning the bezels a half inch all around - what they've done with the 12-inch. I salivate over the prospect of a sleek, impossibly thin 16-inch retina MacBook Pro with, say, more than one port.
My reasoning (fantasizing) tells me that has got to be the plan here. But does it all get rolled out at WWDC? Does that timing make sense, given where we are in the Intel cycle and the OS X cycle? Damn, I sure hope so. But I kind of doubt it. Instead, my past, repeated traumas have braced me for a couple of hours of BS about the Apple Watch, Apple Music, Apple News, etc. etc. I'm bracing for a long summer, fall, and possibly winter.
My reasoning (fantasizing) tells me that has got to be the plan here. But does it all get rolled out at WWDC? Does that timing make sense, given where we are in the Intel cycle and the OS X cycle? Damn, I sure hope so. But I kind of doubt it. Instead, my past, repeated traumas have braced me for a couple of hours of BS about the Apple Watch, Apple Music, Apple News, etc. etc. I'm bracing for a long summer, fall, and possibly winter.
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Someone a few pages back sported the notion that it would actually make sense for Apple to release the new macs along with the new OSX.
Seems perfectly reasonable if you ask me.
Would that mean waiting until the fall for a release? That would suck!!
(2009 and 2007 macbooks here, no pro)
Seems perfectly reasonable if you ask me.
Would that mean waiting until the fall for a release? That would suck!!
(2009 and 2007 macbooks here, no pro)
They did release the Retina MacBook Pros in 2012 at WWDC. OS X Mountain Lion came months later.
...somebody posted awhile back that apple don't really know what to do with the rMBP (apart from thinking they have to make it thinner and thinner?)...I think that's nearer the truth than we think
Whatever they bring out I hope its better engineered and tested than the previous generation!
Schiller on the Mac lines at
https://backchannel.com/exclusive-why-apple-is-still-sweating-the-details-on-imac-531a95e50c91
Apple seems to align to this way of seeing the iPad, notebooks, iMac, desktop.
Display - make the display DCI-P3, Truetone
Processor - use Skylake with Iris Pro
eDRAM as a memory side cache, power savings, improved integrated graphics
Memory - move to DDR4
Storage - keep improving (like last update)
Size and Weight - refresh and improve size, thickness
Graphics and video support - improve dual display, video output
Use a 14nm instead of 28nm process dGPU
Connections and Expansion - bring TB3
Wireless - bring 802.11ac second wave (if not already there?)
Audio - improve speakers aka MacBook 12"/iPad Pro 12.9"
Battery - tweak battery
And Apple doesn't know what they could do? The above hits pretty much every tech spec of the MBP. Everything could be improved.
Were there a lot of issue's? If so what did you find?
Not owning one, I've only used the latest rMBP in short burst's....
Cooling generally was an issue - but the greatest failing's were discreet GPU chip failures (that they eventually agreed to repair after a class action) , screen image-retention issues on Retina's (not resolved until late 2015) - and "staining" or de-lamination of Retina screens (again only resolved after a class action). There are probably others - but these were the ones that directly impacted me.
I guess a lot of that is down to quality control and the mad race to make every item produced thinner and lighter...still, I guess most of these issue's have been worked through now, right?
Sounds like you got a combo lemon, which sucks. The design is faultless on the MBPs, and I think they have these quality issues due to the aggressive launch schedule. Hopefully, this time around will be different (it had better be, given how much time they've had to work on the damn things!)
In the "good old days" hardware was designed with much more headroom regarding the layout of components.
If you disassemble a really old Thinkpad you see components using screws and clamps like fans, connectors, etc.
Keyboards were mounted on aluminum plates to make them stable.
Cooling was easier because the chips were not that highly integrated and would operate at their limits all the time.
Today, everything is manufactured towards every possible limit.
I do believe every future MacBook will be disappointing in this regard. It might look amazing an people might admire the engineering advance, but for daily use by human beings it would be so much better to not aim towards these limits all the time.
How long to you really carry your MacBook or use it on your lap.
At the very moment you put it on any kind of surface it really does not matter if it is one millimetre thinner or wedged.
I would welcome a much more stable version that had no failing GPU's, broken trackpads due to battery deformation,
broken ports because of thin metal casings, etc.
I just don't think we will ever get anything useful out of Apple again.
I bought a 2006 MacBook Pro, the first Core2Duo with Tiger 10.4.
To this day this has been the most amazing Laptop I have ever owned.
I owned a 3G PCI Express card with an external antenna, a FireWire 800 external drive and was really happy.
Today I have to deal with flaky Ethernet adapters or have flaky WiFi.
I know this rant is one of hundreds, but I really like to have a visible petition page on MacRumors to create visibility for these concerns.
A little side story: Mz Retina MBP died from half a cup of tea.
If you spill it on the keyboard, liquid can not move anywhere but directly to the logic board, because the keyboard and battery leave no space for liquid to flow around these components.
Then the two fans immediately swirl all the liquid across all chips that are directly at the front cooling slit, the only place were liquid has to go through,
The end result: Battery, Keyboard, Trackpad, Logic board, everything immediately broke.
The case is hardly reusable due to glued components. The only thing left is the display.
No chance for any kind of repair.
"Tough luck", I hear you. But I spilled stuff on older cheap laptops and they did not completely die because layout wasn't that dense.
Sorry for the long rant.
The world has moved on since 2006.
Maybe you could email Jonny Ive and ask him to laminate the next MBP in case you spill your dinner?
Today's machines are designed to be used by pros for 2/3 years before chucking 'em in the bin. Most people who spend 3k on a laptop don't have time to be tinkering with RAM and SSD upgrades. They want an exquisite machine that works so they can focus 100% on what they do best.
If I want to tinker, I will buy a custom desktop and install Ubuntu on it or whatever. Frankly, I don't have time and there are far more interesting things in this world than to be geeking it up and measuring GHz. If I was really into performance and GHz, I'd get a job in HPC.
Where is the goddamn mute button in this place?
One of the main reasons i buy Apple and i dont mind that everything is soldered in space. I just want to work with the equipment and not spend time thinking about this or that possible HW update.
The 13" rMBP is by far the most beautiful and fast computer i have ever owned and 3 years later (damn you apple care for not going 5 years or i would not be part of this thread) it's still doing it's job perfectly fine.
The 13" rMBP is by far the most beautiful and fast computer i have ever owned and 3 years later (damn you apple care for not going 5 years or i would not be part of this thread
) it's still doing it's job perfectly fine.That one has an easy answer. These buttons have been removed, because you don't need them.
Just like the extra USB Ports.
PS: If someone feels the urgent need to shut me up because of my lengthy post, I would have no ego.
Go ahead and request removal. I don't mind.
I wasn't complaining about your post mate
I was shocked at one of the responses, which seems to have been since removed.EDIT: my bad - it hasn't been removed. I just found the "ignore" button, which handily hides posts from unwanted users. If any of you other guys are sick of the trolls, i highly recommend it!
calm down
that laptop it wasnt a laptop for portability stand point, it was heavy, like 17" or 18" alienwares today! they were designed to fit into bags thats all. that was the only difference between those and a desktop, the form factor, it was heavy, almost no battery life so already 2 important facts to be or not to be portable.now days we have very nice display, very easy to read, very nice for your eyes, and i think its nice for old people eyes as well, we have SSD vs old 5200 rpm hdd and so on...the heat is much improved, see current MBP or even the small MB vs old ones, vs old imacs, yes in part the gpu and intel cpu worked for this making them smaller and more power eff.
but hey you cannot deny the big differences between 2006 macbook pro and the upcoming one. Its night and day from every aspect
Nope. This thing is terrible, and goes against the design principles Apple (and you too) praise so long.
Also, with the end of the Moore's Law and the lack of real technology improvement, I think we're going to face new release times, longer than before.
Just think at all the mess and delay Intel made with Skylake.
So you don't care about the performance of your computer?
Why so?
Whatever Apple put in a laptop, that fit for you?
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