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Wow the decision is so tough. Never owning an Apple computer before, I feel like I cannot wait any longer as I really want to try using OS X and have a computer that I can bring with me.

As it seems I have gone too far in the wait, I will continue waiting for WWDC. I would hate to spend this much time just to give up and buy a year old computer for the premium price.

If I bought the current version now, I would only have 51 days before (possibly) feeling regrets/jealousy over the new MBP.
 
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Serban said:
AMD CEO Lisa Su, confirmed yesterday that Polaris will indeed launch in Q2 – April-May-June – and stated that the exact date will be announced
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Just posting the full quote because it makes me not hate life:

We remain focused on completing our strategic work around three key growth pillars. First, in PCs, even in a declining overall market, we believe we can regain client compute and discrete graphics share for the year, driven by gaming, VR, commercial, and our most competitive product roadmap in more than a decade.
We have clear opportunities to regain GPU share in 2016 based on the performance per watt of our new GPUs and software leadership. Earlier this quarter at CES, we announced our new Polaris GPU architecture, which we expect to begin shipping in the middle of 2016.

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-graphics-share-rival-nvidia-2016-report/#ixzz46ay3RLPN
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Sounds like June fellahs.

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Rcflyyer1 said:
As it seems I have gone too far in the wait, I will continue waiting for WWDC. I would hate to spend this much time just to give up and buy a year old computer for the premium price.
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Seeing as Apple didn't change up all that much in the 2015 update, its almost a two year old computer at this point.

Ya here that, Schiller? Your still selling two year old Macs. I'm sad yo.
 
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knassar said:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2759&cmp[]=976

BOOM. can't wait!
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I'm shocked the perf delta isn't higher. Going from dual core to quad core w/ HT I would've expected a little more but 5 fold increase isn't bad. Heres mines 2010 17" MBP, a paltry 3x improvement :)
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2759&cmp[]=849

And heres that against the very first macbook pro 2006:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2759&cmp[]=733

10 years later, 10 times faster.
what a time to be alive.
 
knassar said:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2759&cmp[]=976

BOOM. can't wait!
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Geez that difference is insane!
I remember building my own gaming PC four years ago and it was soooo much faster at everything. It was the fastest computer I had seen in my life and made all our previous computers look like a potato.

You most likely will experience the same wunderbare erlebnis with that huge leap in performance @OSX7 , and anybody else rockin' an old MacBook Pro.

The past few pages got me all hyped up man. WWDC here we come!!!

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Serban said:
AMD CEO Lisa Su, confirmed yesterday that Polaris will indeed launch in Q2 – April-May-June – and stated that the exact date will be announced
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Thanks kind sir!
You give me again hope!

OSX7 said:
6.5x my current CPU performance, im so looking forward to it. :3
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"just" 6.0x my good ol' Intel Core2 Duo P7550 @ 2.26GHz.
I can't wait.

killawat said:
its almost a two year old computer at this point.
Ya here that, Schiller? Your still selling two year old Macs.
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"Can't innovate anymore my ass" your ass, Phil. Give us the damn beautiful shining new MBP and stuck the goddamn Polaris in it. Yeah, stuck in it! Do it! Do it!
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"We remain on track to introduce our new 14-nanometer FinFET based Polaris GPUs midyear."
"We are executing well to our product and technology roadmaps, including the introduction of our seventh-generation APUs, our midyear launch of new Polaris GPUs"
" Polaris is on track to launch in the middle of the year."

Are they using the Apple style usage? (i.e. Early, Middle and Late are 4 months each, mid year is May-August)

I guess the most optimistic quote is this -
"Bill C. Peterson - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Yeah. Hi. This is Bill Peterson calling in for Harlan. Thanks for taking the question. A clarification on the earlier question. You said most of the new growth is coming from Semi-Custom and some from Graphics. Is there any channel fill or related Polaris revenue in the second quarter or planned in the second quarter? Or is it really a second half story?

Lisa T. Su - President, CEO & Non-Independent Director

Again, not being specific, because we haven't actually announced our launch date, but I would say the majority of Polaris is a second half story."

No Q2 launch confirmed, just middle, which spans May-June of Q2, and July-August from the start of Q3.
 
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snc said:
I wrote about cpu speed. Yes, gpu power will increase significantly for igpu but current macbook pro users with igpu configuration probalby don't care much about gpu speed :)
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Well, yeah, I know you were talking about CPU-only, but then you were using this CPU-only performance mindset to judge the worthiness of Skylake as a whole, which is highly flawed. Skylake will come with not just the much improved iGPU and power use gains, but also TB3/USB3.1, DDR4, other more specific instruction set and compatibility improvements for certain needs. Its an entire package.

Also, I'm not sure I'd agree with such a grandiose generalization about iGPU users. At the levels of those Haswell iGPUs even light gaming was/is kind of clunky and many people might not want to shell out an extra $1000 to configure their MBP just so they can play a game a little more smoothly. It also means driving more and/or higher resolution displays. You also can't ignore how this might mean some potential users on dGPU will move down to iGPUs. Saving both money at the time of purchase and power usage.

Overall, I'm actually pretty excited about Skylake. I know its not a huge CPU improvement over Haswell or Broadwell, but then, not a whole lot of folks buy computers every 2 years any more. Its more like 3-5. I'm on a 2011 MBP and am very much looking forward to dumping this dGPU I only use 1-2 times a week.
 
killawat said:
Dunno why everyone else is waiting but I got to have TB3. I'm the same guy who uses bulky oversized expresscard adapters to eek out a little more performance so having extra io to increase the longevity is a must. The 2015 rMBP is fine if someone doesn't need/want that kind of flexibility but, seeing all the hot new gear coming out for TB3 (native eGPU, mega raids, etc) and USB-C (docks, etc), I refuse to buy one without it. TB2 works great and is fine but as far as I can tell, there is no way to connect TB3 devices to TB2. A TB3 port&adapter can drive a TB2 device. Plus with all the PC oems getting into the TB3/USB-C game there are lots of USB-C/TB3 devices available, for instance Dell has their docking station which should work on a Mac as well.

Relax everyone i'm not saying we need a MBP with 4 USB-c ports and no USB-A ports, i'm saying we need atleast 2 USB-C/TB3 ports period, which should happen since they can just swap the TB2 ports. I don't care what else goes on there, hell we can bring FW800 back (will never happen) for all I care as long as it cozies up next to a TB3 port.
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Same for me, and especially for the possibility to hook up a 5K display with one cable to the future 13/14.

And as I use my MBP mostly closed on a desktop display (or half of the time), really important for me.

In fact I hope it won't too "thinner" or slanted.
 
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killawat said:
I'm shocked the perf delta isn't higher.
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This is a moronic comment.

The performance per watt is truly amazing. This is because of the die size and improvements to the architecture, new instructions, etc.

Intel could release a 4GHz CPU tomorrow and grant you your "perf data" (what performance are you talking about?) wishes, but your battery would last about 5 minutes and your Mac weight/thickness would double because of the extra block of aluminium needed to cool it and the water port that you need to plug your Mac into when you want to go into "overdrive mode".
 
My 2011 11" MBA has started to show his age. Still going strong, but battery lasts less than 2 hours and the screen flickers from time to time.
Ready to upgrade, the "new" rMB is tempting and would serve me well, but I decided to wait until WWDC and see what Apple comes up with.

I need something portable, easy to carry around, long battery life... but if I can get all this PLUS some extra edge on performance, well, why not? Problem is, I love the 15" rMBP, which is everything but portable.
 
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EmaDaCuz said:
My 2011 11" MBA has started to show his age. Still going strong, but battery lasts less than 2 hours and the screen flickers from time to time.
Ready to upgrade, the "new" rMB is tempting and would serve me well, but I decided to wait until WWDC and see what Apple comes up with.

I need something portable, easy to carry around, long battery life... but if I can get all this PLUS some extra edge on performance, well, why not? Problem is, I love the 15" rMBP, which is everything but portable.
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How many cycles you have on your macbook air?
[doublepost=1461394448][/doublepost]After wwdc 2012 with all mac updates and the retina one, even at wwdc 2013 was a little mac update, the macbook air,so even if wwdc is software it is clear they can have a big mac event at wwdc
 
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It has gone through 868 cycles... So pretty used and abused. Capacity is 82% of original.
 
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Serban said:
it seems the new Macbook outperformed the 2013 13" Macbook pro in cpu, its time Apple for the update @wwdc
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No, it does not. Run a sustained workload on both of them and you will see the difference. The core m will throttle a long, long time before the CPU in the MBP given equally sustained workloads. The fan in the MBP will allow that system to keep going with the workload long after the MacBook slows down.

There seems to be a lot of these statements going around. Lots of people looking at a chart without looking any further into the data or how it was generated. Faults in the reporting, and/or faults in the interpretation. It's a nasty combination that's resulting in more than the usual amount of misinformation.
 
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No, it does not. Run a sustained workload on both of them and you will see the difference. The core m will throttle a long, long time before the CPU in the MBP given equally sustained workloads. The fan in the MBP will allow that system to keep going with the workload long after the MacBook slows down.

There seems to be a lot of these statements going around. Lots of people looking at a chart without looking any further into the data or how it was generated. Faults in the reporting, and/or faults in the interpretation. It's a nasty combination that's resulting in more than the usual amount of misinformation.
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yes but for the first 5 min to have same or better cpu perf ITS OUTRAGEOUS ! A pro machine shouldn't be near a consumer one for at least 5 years apart. WWDC HERE WE COME
 
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