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hp z-book is to expensive to experiment with - but the xps 15 basic version not, and it is more then powerful and extensible ( what the macbook pro's are not ), CT16G4SFD8213 16gb *2 = 32 gb for $123 !!
 
GioFerrara said:
I'm not sure how familiar you are with Windows 10 since you have only been using Mac's for the last 7 years, but it's a great OS. It's every bit as stable as OSX, I will even say it might even be better if you factor in the features Windows 10 will introduce this summer.
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Oh, I have a Windows 10 desktop that I use all the time, so I'm quite familiar with it, and it's great for some things (I mainly use it for gaming), but I really don't prefer it. It's for various reasons, but for example, one is that Windows 10's scaling abilities, while better than any previous version of Windows, are still not great on my 4K monitor (whereas, there'd be no issue with a retina display). Another is I just prefer some of the OS X software, like Photos, which is great to have synced with my iPad and iPhone. And I'm also a language/linguistics person, so it's really convenient to hold down the letter "e" and get "é" rather than go through the characater map or enter in alt-codes.

Might not be big reasons, but it all adds up to me preferring OS X.
 
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GioFerrara said:
I agree that Windows 10 is awesome and some PC's on the market are great machines. With that sad, that one poster mixed facts with a lot of trolling.

I also want to add that 4K screens in a laptop is a gimmick and a waste of battery life. It's physically impossible to notice in a laptop size screen. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.
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I can see the difference.
Setting the rMBP to FullHD equivalent resolution everything is a tad fuzzy.
If I leave at at default, best for retina, the screen real estate is too little.

If I set the XPS 15 to FullHD equivalent (200% scaling in Windows) everything is crystal clear.
If I set it to its best/native resolution... oh snap, that IS the best resolution. So everything IS crystal clear AND I have FullHD equivalent screen real estate.

So yeah... you can TOTALLY see the difference if you take everything into account.
If you just display... say... a photo fullscreen, then no... the difference will not be soooo huge. Some people might not even be able to tell any difference then. But considering what I said above the difference is night and day!
 
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Guys, I see a little tension around here.
Relax everyone...
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BTW my two cents:
- Apple should drop the price for the current, and next MBP. For me it's unacceptable to see a computer so expensive with so old GPU/CPU.
- I don't understand, and actually I'm quite pissed off by the fact that Apple skip Broadwell, just a month before it was ready. That make no sense.
 
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vlug said:
Windows has got better but the GUI is still a mishmash mess, security wise its open to all sorts of issues and I am not a blinded Apple fan boy so moving to a non Apple product doesn't bother me, but going back to Windows will be a downer for me.
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Same for me, enough of it at work, just plain pisses me off (although I didn't try 10, but even then).
And it doesn't manage the scaling as natively as OS X, and I use a lot my MBP with a desktop display, plan to get a 5k one.
 
Muizon said:
All that talk about Windows Laptops and nobody mentions the Razer Blade and Blade Stealth (except like 30 pages back)?
I mean, just look at it, it's basically what everybody wants:
It looks like the current MacBook, only in black, it's the same material etc. but with upgraded internals like Skylake etc.
It has all the connectivity that's being discussed in this topic, except MacSafe ofc.
And it's already announced to feature a separate external graphics dock, just as like 25%-50% of this topic are looking forward to something like that coming to the MBP.

At least for me, it's the option to go, if apple fails to deliver, maybe even if they manage to somehow deliver.

And yes, the design is a little gamer style, but i guess you can cover the top with some kind of case, if that really is the deal breaker.
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I agree- Razer has power+ mobility mostly. But a few things:

- the others have 17 inchers with Retina. Razers new Pro is 1080p
- it's not out yet while HP and Dell have 17 inch alternatives
- it's sorta heavy at 6.5 pounds. If apple made it it'd be 4.5 or 5.
 
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- Apple should drop the price for the current, and next MBP. For me it's unacceptable to see a computer so expensive with so old GPU/CPU.
- I don't understand, and actually I'm quite pissed off by the fact that Apple skip Broadwell, just a month before it was ready. That make no sense.
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- with the 12" still at 1299, i can't see them dropping the price for the pros.
- they skipped broadwell only on the 15", the 13" got it with the last update.

for what i've come to see around in the last months, it seems as if after all broadwell->skylake is a bigger step up in performance than haswell->broadwell. the latter one got some nice bumps in graphics though.
 
pegamoos said:
- with the 12" still at 1299, i can't see them dropping the price for the pros.
- they skipped broadwell only on the 15", the 13" got it with the last update.

for what i've come to see around in the last months, it seems as if after all broadwell->skylake is a bigger step up in performance than haswell->broadwell. the latter one got some nice bumps in graphics though.
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I dont mind if the Pros dont get price cuts if the base model is at 16GB ram...256 GB SSD.
 
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While we wait - I figured I'd just share a couple of stuff from Woz.

Link to the video below. Begins around 3H24m30s mark

I was at the Business Rocks conference in Manchester where Woz gave a keynote speech and he spent a lot of it discussing Jobs and the myth surrounding him.

First and foremost he was really stressing that Jobs was a total jackass that didn't know a single thing about computers.

And the business discussion in the garage and stuff never happened, that's just the media creation :p

well there's an hour's worth of interesting insight for people who are bored of waiting and need something to kill their time with.
 
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GubbyMan said:
The Crystalwell chips uses the eDRAM as a L4 cache memory. It is dynamically shared between the CPU and iGPU. I found these comparisons by AnandTech for CPU performance between the Haswell with 128MB eDRAM and other chips with no L4 cache. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested/18

It's not a big improvement but the L4 cache will speed up the CPU.
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QuickSync use igpu performance and thats why l4 is used. I doubt you will find some cpu benchmarks that will show big difference of having l4 cache.
 
snc said:
QuickSync use igpu performance and thats why l4 is used. I doubt you will find some cpu benchmarks that will show big difference of having l4 cache.
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I was referring to the second part of the page, the part were it says CPU performance.
 
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