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I'm for trying to keep the discussion on topic, but it just sucks to see people going on about the benefits of ECC RAM when they clearly have absolutely no idea what they're talking about... and then that misinformation just spreads around the forums like wildfire.

There's a reason most of the knowledgeable users eventually stop posting or take long breaks away from the forums - after a while, it just feels like constantly pushing a boulder up a hill.
 
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I'm for trying to keep the discussion on topic, but it just sucks to see people going on about the benefits of ECC RAM when they clearly have absolutely no idea what they're talking about...

Perhaps you can point out in what way it's wrong then instead of making vague hints, there was a link to paper on the last page which clearly points out the benefits.
 
Perhaps you can point out in what way it's wrong then instead of making vague hints, there was a link to paper on the last page which clearly points out the benefits.
I was trying to avoid extending the "off topic" discussion, but you're right, by not being more specific, it unfairly groups everyone together... my bad... I probably shouldn't have said anything.
 
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I'm gonna guess 3B : update all sizes macbook pro at once when available which could be feb/mar 2016
Apple already did broken partial release with the 13" and 15" this year, I doubt they would let the 15" updated first rather than the 13" which came out first.
The only thing is the 15" is still running on Haswell while the 13" got updated to broadwell. So I still think there's a chance

I have a 2010 mbp runs great minus a 1-3 kernel panics a day :/ hopping for a skylake 15" rMbp in October
 
The only thing is the 15" is still running on Haswell while the 13" got updated to broadwell. So I still think there's a chance

I have a 2010 mbp runs great minus a 1-3 kernel panics a day :/ hopping for a skylake 15" rMbp in October

Well with the worse luck you will get that Skylake based 15" rMBP in March-April 2016, the latest!...

But what I really wonder is that, will there be a major re-design (for the actual case) in 2016, or not. Because if there will be such a re-design I fear that the case will get thinner; consequently the battery capacity will shrink and battery life (despite of Skylake's advantages) will still remain around 9 hrs. (for the 15") & 10 hrs (for the 13"). And for the even worse, they may eliminate the MagSafe2, and just put here 2xUSB-C (multipurpose) ports and the audio headphone socket!...:oops::(
 
The only thing is the 15" is still running on Haswell while the 13" got updated to broadwell. So I still think there's a chance

I have a 2010 mbp runs great minus a 1-3 kernel panics a day :/ hopping for a skylake 15" rMbp in October

Yes, but the 13" were updated in February and the 15" haswell in May this year. And surprisingly one week later Intel release broadwell chip which could fit the 15" mbp, so Apple probably knows about this and decided to wait for skylake.

But the skylake chip fit for the 13" would be available in March 2016. So base on this
I'm not raising hope the 15" to get updated this October, They would need a new logic board design perhaps, and other things. My logic is for Apple to update both 13" and 15" at once, which is feb/mar 2016.
 
If you can manage to sell a used Macbook Pro for more that 80% of list price you will be doing extremely well and should perhaps consider a career as a trader.

I sold my six month old Mac Mini on eBay UK for £504, the same price I paid for new (official price was £569 I think). MacBooks hold their value very well on eBay UK, I am sure I can sell it for around 20% discount to list price of £1000, which is an even smaller discount to the price I paid (£880).

PS Indeed I do work as a trader :)
 
Well with the worse luck you will get that Skylake based 15" rMBP in March-April 2016, the latest!...

But what I really wonder is that, will there be a major re-design (for the actual case) in 2016, or not. Because if there will be such a re-design I fear that the case will get thinner; consequently the battery capacity will shrink and battery life (despite of Skylake's advantages) will still remain around 9 hrs. (for the 15") & 10 hrs (for the 13"). And for the even worse, they may eliminate the MagSafe2, and just put here 2xUSB-C (multipurpose) ports and the audio headphone socket!...:oops::(
I'm also hoping apple does not get rid of magsafe. Knowing apple, there's a good chance they're going to make the next macbook pro redesign thinner. I don't mind the next redesign being thinner as long as they don't have to make major sacrifices. After all this is a "pro line" and many professionals rely on the ports, so only putting two usb c's wouldn't make much sense. Although it wouldn't surprise me if they did only put a couple usb c ports.
 
@ adamchris123 :

That's what I fear and maybe I'm going to buy a mid-2014 15" rMBP still with Haswell and dGPU (classic FT pad), 16GB RAM that can enjoy only 8 hrs. battery life but bcz. it has 1TB of Flash Storage (a special configured version) at a discounted price, being a 2014 model...

I am prejudiced at the point that Apple will not want to provide more than 9 hrs. (for the 15") and 10 hrs. (for the 13") battery life for any future rMBP design (current case or a forthcoming thinner case; Skylake and any successor...).
 
@ adamchris123 :

That's what I fear and maybe I'm going to buy a mid-2014 15" rMBP still with Haswell and dGPU (classic FT pad), 16GB RAM that can enjoy only 8 hrs. battery life but bcz. it has 1TB of Flash Storage (a special configured version) at a discounted price, being a 2014 model...

I am prejudiced at the point that Apple will not want to provide more than 9 hrs. (for the 15") and 10 hrs. (for the 13") battery life for any future rMBP design (current case or a forthcoming thinner case; Skylake and any successor...).
The 2014/2015 models are still great machines. I currently own the mid 2015 and I love it a lot. Since my computer is still so new I won't think of upgrading until canonlake rolls around.
 
@ adamchris123 :

That's what I fear and maybe I'm going to buy a mid-2014 15" rMBP still with Haswell and dGPU (classic FT pad), 16GB RAM that can enjoy only 8 hrs. battery life but bcz. it has 1TB of Flash Storage (a special configured version) at a discounted price, being a 2014 model...

I am prejudiced at the point that Apple will not want to provide more than 9 hrs. (for the 15") and 10 hrs. (for the 13") battery life for any future rMBP design (current case or a forthcoming thinner case; Skylake and any successor...).

Skylake is supposed to improve battery, I'm sure the estimated 9 hours will be 10 hours with skylake, why in the world would Apple actively not want the best possible battery life?
 
When you spend your day working on a computer, it's a nice perk to have a good looking one.
Sure, features comes before aesthetic, but if you have the choice you might as well take the one you like the most ;)
A Mac is already much better looking than any PC for me, and it's a nice bonus to have.
If you don't care about it, others do!
 
Hey folks;

As a mid 2010 15" Macbook Pro user I 'feel' like I belong to this camp. I use my computer both for work and personal use, I've swapped the now-useless Superdrive for an SSD and did the "Fusion Drive" thing with a new Mac installation using Terminal back in 2012. That gave my computer a long life.

After almost 5.5 years, I still use it daily, carry with me everywhere and am sort of happy with it. Obviously I change computers on long intervals so when time for next purchase comes, I want to make a good choice.

At work, I work a lot on Excel spreadsheets. I use VBA, Macros, big data sheets and so on.
For personal stuff, I browse the web a lot, do lots of reading, maintain a blog/website, use occasional movie editing and Photoshop. Although my Mac currently gets the job done, it shows its age.

Would you wait for the Skylake if you were me? I know nothing but that Skylakes will consume less battery life. A new case design possibility excites me, yet we all know first gen. Apple designs aren't the best with manufacturing quality. (I remember first gen retina Macbook Pro issues) Anyone to inform me on this matter? I'd also love a 14" MBP as I kind of don't like my current Mac's footprint on tabletops yet I don't want to compromise too much on screen real estate.

TL;DR: I sort of need a computer although not very urgently both for work and personal use that I carry with me 24/7. (basically office-work) I use computers for a long times and want a new computer to commit to.
 
This is becoming an increasingly difficult question to answer.

The current model is very good, has a very fast SSD drive and can be found with a pretty decent discount at some outlets.

The upcoming model will of course have an improved spec but there is now some speculation that Apple may decide to adjust their pricing to stimulate sales.

The simplest answer is wait if you can.

Otherwise if you have to buy a current model try to get a big discount.
 
I don't think Apple will remove any ports on the MBP any time soon. They had to do it on the Macbook because space was just too scarce, but MBP shouldn't be the case.
Hey folks;

As a mid 2010 15" Macbook Pro user I 'feel' like I belong to this camp. I use my computer both for work and personal use, I've swapped the now-useless Superdrive for an SSD and did the "Fusion Drive" thing with a new Mac installation using Terminal back in 2012. That gave my computer a long life.

After almost 5.5 years, I still use it daily, carry with me everywhere and am sort of happy with it. Obviously I change computers on long intervals so when time for next purchase comes, I want to make a good choice.

At work, I work a lot on Excel spreadsheets. I use VBA, Macros, big data sheets and so on.
For personal stuff, I browse the web a lot, do lots of reading, maintain a blog/website, use occasional movie editing and Photoshop. Although my Mac currently gets the job done, it shows its age.

Would you wait for the Skylake if you were me? I know nothing but that Skylakes will consume less battery life. A new case design possibility excites me, yet we all know first gen. Apple designs aren't the best with manufacturing quality. (I remember first gen retina Macbook Pro issues) Anyone to inform me on this matter? I'd also love a 14" MBP as I kind of don't like my current Mac's footprint on tabletops yet I don't want to compromise too much on screen real estate.

TL;DR: I sort of need a computer although not very urgently both for work and personal use that I carry with me 24/7. (basically office-work) I use computers for a long times and want a new computer to commit to.
So long as your current one gets the job done, I don't see why you shouldn't wait and see what the new one will have to offer.
 
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They might not be removing ports, but I definitely see them (USB, HDMI, DP) being changed to USB-C ports since they are smaller and support everything. By doing this they could probably add 1 extra port and still achieve a smaller volume. HDMI/USB3 is huge in comparison.
 
If there won't be a chip for the 13" this year, is it possible that they do a 14" with quad core instead (and possibly a 16")? They changed the size of the MacBook.
 
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