Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

cmChimera · May 3, 2016

GioFerrara said:
Did anyone else read Tim Cook's quotes from his appearance on CNBC? It's a long interview, mostly about what to expect from Apple in the near future and not ONE mention of Mac's. This company really no longer cares at all about their Mac line.

http://9to5mac.com/2016/05/02/tim-cook-defends-aapl-cnbc-cramer/

No, Wall Street doesn't care about Macs. Tim Cook just knew what his audience wanted to talk about.

Uni Grad · May 3, 2016

cmChimera said:
No, Wall Street doesn't care about Macs. Tim Cook just knew what his audience wanted to talk about.

Lets just hope that falling sales will actually push them to make more sensible products, rather than being stern on their senseless ideas e.g., 16 GB base model, low battery, thinnovation, 128 GB base model for notebooks.

WRONG · May 3, 2016

This thread is becoming a little bit boring.
As someone more authoritative than me once said:
"I find the lack of rumors disturbing"

I'll post some pets pics meanwhile.
But not kittens. Enough of kittens.
Do you like kiwi?

ssong · May 3, 2016

WRONG said:
This thread is becoming a little bit boring.
As someone more authoritative than me once said:
"I find the lack of rumors disturbing"

I'll post some pets pics meanwhile.
But not kittens. Enough of kittens.
Do you like kiwi?

Hehe.. Here's an owl

cmChimera · May 3, 2016

Uni Grad said:
Lets just hope that falling sales will actually push them to make more sensible products, rather than being stern on their senseless ideas e.g., 16 GB base model, low battery, thinnovation, 128 GB base model for notebooks.

I think without better battery tech, we're pretty much stuck at where we're at unfortunately. 32gb should be the starter storage on iPhones, skip 64gb, and have 128gb be the mid tier with 256gb being the top storage option. 13" Pro should have 256GB to start off with, $200 upgrade option to 512gb (There should be a 1TB option, but I don't care if Apple decides to lock it behind a processor upgrade. I know they gotta make some money). 15" Pro should start with 512Gb, with a $300 upgrade to 1TB.

If any of this comes true, worship me as an insider.

doitdada · May 3, 2016

cmChimera said:
32gb should be the starter storage on iPhones, skip 64gb, and have 128gb be the mid tier with 256gb being the top storage option.

I don't really use the extra capacity. With cellular data the need for local storage is minimal. Unless you are trying to shoot a full feature 4K film on your iPhone.

cmChimera said:
13" Pro should have 256GB to start off with, $200 upgrade option to 512gb (There should be a 1TB option, but I don't care if Apple decides to lock it behind a processor upgrade. I know they gotta make some money). 15" Pro should start with 512Gb, with a $300 upgrade to 1TB.

Since the consumer models, MacBook 12", is packing 256 GB, the Pro should be able to provide us with 512GB. A cheaper 1TB upgrade would be nice.

Dydegu · May 3, 2016

Nevermind... will put something clever in here.

snc · May 3, 2016

Intel nuc with iris540 tested http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-NUC6i5SYH-Mini-PC-Review.164878.0.html

maclaw21 · May 3, 2016

cmChimera said:
No, Wall Street doesn't care about Macs. Tim Cook just knew what his audience wanted to talk about.

Exactly. He was trying to control the damage caused by weak iPhone sales.

During the last earnings report call, someone from Apple (Tim or perhaps the CFO) indicated that they expected to see a bump in Mac sales in June.

Wowereit · May 3, 2016

I'm actually surprised how well the 12" MacBook keyboard feels.
The butterfly switch provides great feedback, allthough the travel could be higher.
Keytravel of the current MBP but with butterfly switches should be a really nice typing experience.

Dutchdude99 · May 3, 2016

ssong said:
Hehe.. Here's an owl

Here´s an Apple bird

killawat · May 3, 2016

One reason we probably won't see the Skylake-H Xeon in the new Macbook Pro is because the skylake plist that was found on 10.11.4 a few months ago. Xeon procs have Iris Pro P580 while the i7 only have the 580 moniker. Not sure what, if any the difference is but they are different as far as ARK is concerned. The 580 is on the list though. remember this was released AFTER the crappy march event.

https://pikeralpha.wordpress.com/2016/03/25/os-x-10-11-4-build-15e65-and-skylake-graphics-support/
AppleIntelGraphicsFramebuffer.sh v3.2 Copyright (c) 2012-2016 by Pike R. Alpha
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The supported platformIDs are:

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[ 2] 0x19160000 - Intel® HD Graphics 520..........(ULT GT2)
[ 3] 0x19260000 - Intel® Iris™ Graphics 550.......(ULT GT3)
[ 4] 0x191b0000 - Intel® HD Graphics 530..........(Halo GT2)
[ 5] 0x193b0000 - Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580...(Halo GT4)
[ 6] 0x19120000 - Intel® HD Graphics 530..........(Desktop GT2)
[ 7] 0x19020001 - Intel® HD Graphics 510..........(Desktop GT1)
[ 8] 0x19170001 - Skylake Desktop.................(GT1.5)
[ 9] 0x19120001 - Intel® HD Graphics 530..........(Desktop GT2)
[10] 0x19320001 - Skylake Desktop.................(GT4)
[11] 0x19160002 - Intel® HD Graphics 520..........(ULT GT2)
[12] 0x19260002 - Intel® Iris™ Graphics 540.......(ULT GT3)
[13] 0x191e0003 - Intel® HD Graphics 515..........(ULX GT2)
[14] 0x19260004 - Intel® Iris™ Graphics 540.......(ULT GT3)
[15] 0x193b0005 - Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580...(Halo GT4)
[16] 0x193b0006 - Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580...(Halo GT4)

Uni Grad · May 3, 2016

doitdada said:
I don't really use the extra capacity. With cellular data the need for local storage is minimal. Unless you are trying to shoot a full feature 4K film on your iPhone.

Since the consumer models, MacBook 12", is packing 256 GB, the Pro should be able to provide us with 512GB. A cheaper 1TB upgrade would be nice.

SSD prices have dropped since 2012, and in 2016, 256GB quite cheap. They should keep that and I should be happy, but the price should be equivalent to the 128 GB.

Dydegu · May 3, 2016

Dutchdude99 said:
Here´s an Apple bird

Looks more like a duck.

Ducks fly in the sky...

...ducks also swim in lakes.

Sweet jesus.

vlug · May 3, 2016

Dydegu said:
Looks more like a duck.

Ducks fly in the sky...

...ducks also swim in lakes.

Sweet jesus.

And here's an APPLE ELEPHANT.... Imagine having an Elephant as a Pet

Serban · May 3, 2016

On topic now.
It will be better if apple makes all the ports usb-c thunderbolt 3 compatible? Or let a standalone usb-c and the rest to be also thunderbolt 3? is there a negative NOT to have all usb-c thunderbolt 3 ?

PTLove · May 3, 2016

Aditya_S said:
Oh, never mind then, but I still would not like for them to switch to ARM as Windows wouldn't be supported anymore. I don't know if ARM supports dGPUs from Nvidia or AMD because the current fastest iOS device processor, the A9X has about the same GPU power as an Xbox 360 from 2005 stated directly by Apple which is definitely not enough to power the retina displays.

There are a lot of good reasons for Apple not to go ARM on MacBooks. Forking desktop users (again), GPU performance, and probably more importantly the cost of implementing and designing

Serban said:
On topic now.
It will be better if apple makes all the ports usb-c thunderbolt 3 compatible? Or let a standalone usb-c and the rest to be also thunderbolt 3? is there a negative NOT to have all usb-c thunderbolt 3 ?

It requires two alpine ridge controllers, and double the PCI-E lanes. Apple will not do that. Could potentially slow down SSD speeds.

j1104638 · May 3, 2016

Serban said:
It will be better if apple makes all the ports usb-c thunderbolt 3 compatible? Or let a standalone usb-c and the rest to be also thunderbolt 3? is there a negative NOT to have all usb-c thunderbolt 3 ?

PTLove said:
It requires two alpine ridge controllers, and double the PCI-E lanes. Apple will not do that. Could potentially slow down SSD speeds.

It should not slow down SSD. Apple is highly unlikely to do this though, this costs money and I doubt they'll see the need for 4 TB3 ports if we have 2 TB2 ports.

Serban · May 3, 2016

PTLove said:
It requires two alpine ridge controllers, and double the PCI-E lanes. Apple will not do that. Could potentially slow down SSD speeds.

so you say Apple will do 1 usb-c and 2x usb-c thunderbolt 3?

PTLove · May 3, 2016

j1104638 said:
It should not slow down SSD. Apple is highly unlikely to do this though, this costs money and I doubt they'll see the need for 4 TB3 ports if we have 2 TB2 ports.

Im honestly not sure how many lanes they use for their SSD. Its probably far too few to be effected I concede.

Serban · May 3, 2016

can thunderbolt 3 charge faster than usb-c ?

PTLove · May 3, 2016

Serban said:
so you say Apple will do 1 usb-c and 2x usb-c thunderbolt 3?

Depends. Id expect either 3x usb-c (2x of them tb3) and a hdmi (mini or normal) or just 3x usb-c with a sd slot.

I dont see both the sd and hdmi slot leaving.

Serban · May 3, 2016

i mean since the Macbook battery is charging from 1-100% in around 2 hours, i guess a 15" MBP will take longer, or they will add usb-c gen 2 for faster charging ?
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PTLove said:
Depends. Id expect either 3x usb-c (2x of them tb3) and a hdmi (mini or normal) or just 3x usb-c with a sd slot.

I dont see both the sd and hdmi slot leaving.

I dont think apple could risk not to have any thunderbolt 3

WRONG · May 3, 2016

Serban said:
I dont think apple could risk not to have any thunderbolt 3

Why then did they skip it both on iMac and MacBook?
I hope we will see a MBP with TB3, but I'm not so sure about it...

volcomvenom · May 3, 2016

You guys! 40 more days until WWDC 2016, who is stoked?

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