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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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dallegre said:
I think what OSX7 is getting at is if you put these numbers into performance/watt, the 6770 is pretty darn impressive, and that certainly is in sync with Apple's apparent direction.

Hopefully we'll still see an Apple product with a Polaris/Pascal gpu at some point, though June might be a bit optimistic for that.
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Yes, perf/w is good, but don't forget Intel has the best technology process 14nm, and we compare to 28nm tsmc(960m). With 16finfet tsmc and 14nm GF the gap will be closer.
 
SRTM said:
skylake also supports TB3, while broadwell does not.
its not only about the speed
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Doubt it. Broadwell has 16 PCI-E 3.0 lanes, the same as Skylake. IMHO it's not that it's impossible to bring TB3 to Broadwell, it's that no one felt it necessary. Or am I wrong and there is a technical incompatibility?

Kaby Lake is the one that would really support TB3 i. e. include it in the die area, not as a periphery.
 
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Sorry to break up the nerd discussion, but are there any recent rumors? Is there a chance WWDC doesn't bring us new MBPs?
 
freitz said:
With Apple stock where it is and the heat they are taking for not growing iphone sales they need something to bring it back up. If they don't launch a powerful notebook you could see a ton of people jumping ship. Myself included.
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-26 days and still no "consistent" leak or rumor (sorry @Serban ) whatsoever...
Guys, I'm starting feeling a little bit uncomfortable
 
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shareef777 said:
Yep. I'd be curious how many people actually make the jump over to a non-Apple device if that happens.
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If HP offers Zbook Studio with Xeon E3-1545M by that time (currently announced as 1H2016) I would buy it maxed out the same day Apple does not launch new rMBP and finally switch to Linux.

I'm saying it sitting with my MBA 13" late 2011, rMBP 15" late 2013 (with dGPU) and rMBP 15" mid-2015 (with dGPU) right in front of me (migrating myself to mid-2015 atm). + Maxed out Mac Mini late 2014 and MBP 15" late 2011 nearby.

This is how big Apple **** up is.
 
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Federico87 said:
-26 days and still no "consistent" leak or rumor (sorry @Serban ) whatsoever...
Guys, I'm starting feeling a little bit uncomfortable
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They have a lot riding on this. Ill probably get a razer blade if they can't get it together.

j1104638 said:
If HP offers Zbook Studio with Xeon E3-1545M by that time (currently announced as 1H2016) I would buy it maxed out the same day Apple does not launch new rMBP and finally switch to Linux.

I'm saying it sitting with my MBA 13" late 2011, rMBP 15" late 2013 (with dGPU) and rMBP 15" mid-2015 (with dGPU) right in front of me (migrating myself to mid-2015 atm). + Maxed out Mac Mini late 2014 and MBP 15" late 2011 nearby.

This is how big Apple **** up is.
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Interesting zbook. It sure is ugly though, looks like my 2005 HP notebook.
 
Oppenheim said:
I wouldn't rule it out entirely. But yeah, unlikely from my point of view.

Apple have huge clout. Intel would love to position themselves alongside Apple.

Also, the Kabylake features look perfect for Apple's target market (video editing, high-speed/low latency peripherals - i.e. USB-C, etc.) Then again, the Skylake is a very good chip. 2nd gen MBP next year will still benefit. It's all designed in for the next four years.
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0% chance of kaby lake this year


AgentMcGeek said:
And the difference is quite significant on a number of tasks!

Car chase, on screen: 3064 Frames (51.9 Fps) vs 1130 Frames (19.1 Fps)

Manhattan 3.1, on screen: 1949 Frames (31.4 Fps) vs 1293 Frames (20.9 Fps)

Manhattan, on screen: 2862 Frames (46.2 Fps) vs 1672 Frames (27.0 Fps)

Texturing, on screen: 23071 MTexels/s vs 16016 MTexels/s
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I agree with you, but note you cannot look at the onscreen comparisons, because those were most likely at different resolutions. The m370x was likely at the high resolution MacBook resolution.

snc said:
And loose badly with 960m https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&did1=32063337&os1=Windows&api1=gl&hwtype1=iGPU&hwname1=Intel(R)+Iris(TM)+Pro+Graphics+580&D2=NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+960M and pascal has debut today (gtx1080 is 1.7x faster than predecesor gtx980 so nvidia can bring such improve in 1060m).
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I don't disagree, but what's your point.

Of course iris 580 is weaker than 960m... Why does that matter.

Also pascal mobile GPUs won't be available for quite some time now. But of course they will beat iris 580
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Federico87 said:
-26 days and still no "consistent" leak or rumor (sorry @Serban ) whatsoever...
Guys, I'm starting feeling a little bit uncomfortable
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We don't need rumors for it to happen.
I am like 95%++ confident we will see the new MacBooks at wwdc
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OSX7 said:
True, the only thing that impresses me is the amount of performance they can extract using a significantly reduced power and area budget compared to Nvidia's and AMD's offerings. Intel never fails to impress me, on the GPU side of things. Imagine a full fledge dGPU from them. :O
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Right the iris 580 and CPU is using like a total of 45W. On the other hand, the other set up is most likely a 45+50W total.
 
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justin216 said:
That image tells-the-tale on Skylake CPU performance. If you already have a model using the 4870HQ, like my 2015 rMBP 15", we're looking at less than 50 points difference in CPU performance, less than 1% improvement by going to Skylake.

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Just need to have appropriate expectations, and I agree, anyone waiting out this new model strictly on CPU horsepower alone is going to be disappointed.
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I'm always flummoxed by these posts. When has this ever not been the case, more or less, when comparing models year over year? And why on earth would you be shopping for a new MBP if you have last year's model?

Sent from my 2011 MBP.
 
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Makes me wonder from the lack of rumors if they'll release the MBP's at WWDC in the same form factor, but in just updated specs. Wouldn't mind honestly - it'd be nice to shave off a pound or so from these machines, but for what they are, and what they could be with Skylake and TB3, that'd be good enough for me.
 
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kevinkyoo said:
Makes me wonder from the lack of rumors if they'll release the MBP's at WWDC in the same form factor, but in just updated specs. Wouldn't mind honestly - it'd be nice to shave off a pound or so from these machines, but for what they are, and what they could be with Skylake and TB3, that'd be good enough for me.
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I have the same suspicions as you - at too would not mind. However, why wait for WWDC for what would normally constitute a silent update? I suppose they need to talk about TB3 and how this is the fastest MacBook they've ever made (again).
 
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