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It's not clear because it's still on their site. It's awful because non-techy people will think it's current gen.

http://store.apple.com/xc/product/MD101LL/A

I was thinking "Macbook" and not "Macbook Pro." Now I understand. Yeah. They're never going to update that model. The lack of the words "with retina display" and the price probably clue people in to the fact that it's not as good as the others. Hopefully.
 
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Calling all audio/recording guys!

Hey guys/gals...long time lurker here, been following this thread for quite some time. I'm really on the fence about the upcoming rMBP. My main task for my next laptop will be audio recording at home. It's not heavy studio stuff...I'm basically recording demos for my band before rehearsal, but it's not just recording the riffs; I want the demos to give a real good first taste of a song so I lay it all down; drums through EZ-drummer, guitars and bass with Amplitube and my DAW being Cubase since I'm on an old Win laptop. I line my stuff through a Behringer external sound card.

I'm partly "invested" in the Apple ecosystem I guess...being on a iPhone 6 and my family's main browser/kids stuff is the iPad.

Now, my Win laptop is 5 years old and I need to upgrade, I need a laptop and not a stationary machine so I can work on songs from anywhere. My first thought was the upcoming rMBP but I'm just not that sure anymore...I love the design and OS and all of Apples products but I'm having a hard time justifying just that for a purchase when I on the other hand can get an XPS or similar powered Win laptop cheaper with Reaper as my main DAW instead. The other route would be the upcoming rMBP with Logic or Reaper. I have not had any problems with Win 10 so far.

Is there any audio guys out there that can share something; thoughts/input about choosing the new MBP with the Logic or Reaper DAW route over the Win with Reaper DAW route and why you have come to your decision?

Any input appreciated! Cheers guys,

(located in the EU/Sweden if you have thoughts on Apple/PC prices etc)


Hi.
I´ve been running Pro Tools on a 2009 27" iMac since it was brand new. With Pro Tools 11 I started getting more errors and worsening performance, so I went to Studio One. It runs really good on my 7 year old system, but the plug-in count leaves something to be desired. I also run Studio One on windows 7 PC´s at the school where I teach music. Sometimes I borrow a 2013 Macbook Air from my wife, to run Studio one at work. I have several 1 year old Dell Laptops, but the difference in experience between a 3 year old macbook and a 1 year old PC with Win7 is incredible. They way macs run, the way the hardware feels in use,everything. It´s an insane difference.

I have never seen an install of windows running cross plattform software as smooth as a mac of equal power. My buddy uses Sonar, so I can´t compare that. But when running PT, Studio One and other Audio software I always get the best performance and stability with macs.

Getting a 13" rMBP will be a great machine for audio applications, and I for one am turning my iMac in to a dedicated Thudnerbolt display for my new RMBP as SOOON as the Skylake models launch. The 13" model is not all that expensive compared to Dell XPS, and the difference between dual core i5 to i7 is negligable when running audio software. Of course a quad core i7 in a 15" would be even better, but the e years old Macbook Air is already crunching it with Studio One.

I mention my background with Pro Tools and Studio One because I considered reaper when I felt the system requirements for Pro Tools were leaving me behind. But if you are going for a new DAW, then I think S1 is THE DAW to get. great community, developers who listen, best workflow I´ve ever tried, easy on the system requirements and all around nice guys. (Presonus.)
I still keep Pro Tools around because some clients insist on it, but I will usually track in it when they are looking, than bounce to Studio One and do everything else there, and them send them the mixes. Loving Studio One and think it will be AMAH-ZING on Skylake rMBP.
Pm me if you want to continue raving on about DAWS :p
 
I was thinking "Macbook" and not "Macbook Pro." Now I understand. Yeah. They're never going to update that model. The lack of the words "with retina display" and the price probably clue people in to the fact that it's not as good as the others. Hopefully.

Yep exactly my point :) The 13" inch classic basically has a 'do not buy' tag on it. Outdated hardware, not even retina/ssd etc - horrible upgrade prices and yet on their website.

Same with Macmini/Pro etc. I don't understand Apple really. 20k employees and no one has time to put in current hardware or update the website?
 
Hi.
I´ve been running Pro Tools on a 2009 27" iMac since it was brand new. With Pro Tools 11 I started getting more errors and worsening performance, so I went to Studio One. It runs really good on my 7 year old system, but the plug-in count leaves something to be desired. I also run Studio One on windows 7 PC´s at the school where I teach music. Sometimes I borrow a 2013 Macbook Air from my wife, to run Studio one at work. I have several 1 year old Dell Laptops, but the difference in experience between a 3 year old macbook and a 1 year old PC with Win7 is incredible. They way macs run, the way the hardware feels in use,everything. It´s an insane difference.

I have never seen an install of windows running cross plattform software as smooth as a mac of equal power. My buddy uses Sonar, so I can´t compare that. But when running PT, Studio One and other Audio software I always get the best performance and stability with macs.

Getting a 13" rMBP will be a great machine for audio applications, and I for one am turning my iMac in to a dedicated Thudnerbolt display for my new RMBP as SOOON as the Skylake models launch. The 13" model is not all that expensive compared to Dell XPS, and the difference between dual core i5 to i7 is negligable when running audio software. Of course a quad core i7 in a 15" would be even better, but the e years old Macbook Air is already crunching it with Studio One.

I mention my background with Pro Tools and Studio One because I considered reaper when I felt the system requirements for Pro Tools were leaving me behind. But if you are going for a new DAW, then I think S1 is THE DAW to get. great community, developers who listen, best workflow I´ve ever tried, easy on the system requirements and all around nice guys. (Presonus.)
I still keep Pro Tools around because some clients insist on it, but I will usually track in it when they are looking, than bounce to Studio One and do everything else there, and them send them the mixes. Loving Studio One and think it will be AMAH-ZING on Skylake rMBP.
Pm me if you want to continue raving on about DAWS :p

That's great, very informative, thanks.
You're getting me psyched for my first MBP now! :)
I'll def will check S1 out too.
 
Thanks for the input, I will definitely wait for the new MBP before deciding. Yeah, I'm having a hard time choosing Logic over Reaper nowadays...I know of "real" recording guys who have gone over to Reaper from ProTools or Logic.

The difference between the XPS 15 with 16gigs of RAM and the rMBP 15" is 4500Sek.
The question should be if you think 4500 Sek is an Ok price for (imho) better design, longevity (I can still make do with my 2009 computer, and I run a server off a 2006 MacBook) the Apple ecosystem (you have the phone and the iPad) OS X, and the other mac only features, while giving up a greater games selection unless you install boot camp.

I for one would´t go for a win based production enviroment no matter how much money I saved. Im invested in the ecosystem, AND I use both every day and just feel more comfortable with OS X as my DAW OS.
 
Cheers mate! :) ;):apple:;)

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I was thinking "Macbook" and not "Macbook Pro." Now I understand. Yeah. They're never going to update that model. The lack of the words "with retina display" and the price probably clue people in to the fact that it's not as good as the others. Hopefully.

It's so weird to see the non-retina MacBook Pro yet on the store.
Still, I'll miss it.
It's light, quite powerful, and most of all is the most (well, the only) upgradable product of Apple.
There was an interesting article by The Verge (or Motherboard, I don't remember now) about it.
Think about it.
RAM, Hard Disk, battery are all upgradable, and they will increase the life of the computer.
Maybe even GPU and CPU, with skills and patience.

Yep, I'll miss it...
 
RAM, Hard Disk, battery are all upgradable, and they will increase the life of the computer.
Double edged sword of an argument though. They are also the three biggest sources of computer failure. Soldering RAM is inconvenient for upgraders, but ultimately increases reliability. I kind of wish I could just go out and buy an off the shelf SSD, but then again it wouldn't have close to the performance of Apple's.
 
Double edged sword of an argument though. They are also the three biggest sources of computer failure. Soldering RAM is inconvenient for upgraders, but ultimately increases reliability. I kind of wish I could just go out and buy an off the shelf SSD, but then again it wouldn't have close to the performance of Apple's.

Not so sure RAM is a top 3 point of computer failure. I've seen plenty of DOA RAM, but once installed it tends to go and go.

A 512GB Samsung 950 PRO NVMe drive is $317 on amazon...pretty damn fast.

During the life of the computer these things will get faster and cheaper. For example...a big factor keeping my late 2011 MBP usable is my ability to replace the HDD with an SSD. I think the only arguments for soldered in components are 1) thinness and more importantly 2) profit.
 
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A 512GB Samsung 950 PRO NVMe drive is $317 on amazon...pretty damn fast.
That's actually more expensive than Apple's drive. I was more talking about SATA SSDs because their prices are plummeting.

I think the only arguments for soldered in components are 1) thinness and more importantly 2) profit.
i disagree with this sentiment.

I know. He said "Macbook" instead of "Macbook Pro", so I thought he meant the white, plastic model.
 
Double edged sword of an argument though. They are also the three biggest sources of computer failure. Soldering RAM is inconvenient for upgraders, but ultimately increases reliability. I kind of wish I could just go out and buy an off the shelf SSD, but then again it wouldn't have close to the performance of Apple's.

True that, and it's true also that SSD and Flash Ram provided by Apple are really powerful.
I'm just sad for the lack of alternatives that will come:
"You can choose between a superthinner not upgradable MBP or a superthinner not upgradable MBP less powerful."
:(
 
What I hope to see on Macrumors everyday:
"Apple updated its entire Mac line-up"
What I do see on Macrumors everyday:
"Apple Pay now available at a store you never heard of" and "Today Apple shared the 5th beta of El Capitan 10.11.39, it's not clear what has been updated so we guess it probably adds new bugs"

I'm laughing really hard.
This is so true.
Thank you.
 
Hello guys!! I was investigating about possible processors in new macbook pro and I found this result in geekbech3 browser. It's the only i7 with iris graphics 550 (28w) and It was tested with a Mac!!!
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What do you think about this??
 
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What I hope to see on Macrumors everyday:
"Apple updated its entire Mac line-up"
What I do see on Macrumors everyday:
"Apple Pay now available at a store you never heard of" and "Today Apple shared the 5th beta of El Capitan 10.11.39, it's not clear what has been updated so we guess it probably adds new bugs"
I lol'd :D
 
Hello guys!! I was investigating about possible processors in new macbook pro and I found this result in geekbech3 browser. It's the only i7 with iris graphics 550 (28w) and It was tested with a Mac!!!View attachment 632079

What do you think about this??
And significally slower than others laptop with the same cpu. Cool new thinner body is responsible for throttling ? Or osx is just slower than windows in this benchmark.
 
Calling all audio/recording guys!

Hey guys/gals...long time lurker here, been following this thread for quite some time. I'm really on the fence about the upcoming rMBP. My main task for my next laptop will be audio recording at home. It's not heavy studio stuff...I'm basically recording demos for my band before rehearsal, but it's not just recording the riffs; I want the demos to give a real good first taste of a song so I lay it all down; drums through EZ-drummer, guitars and bass with Amplitube and my DAW being Cubase since I'm on an old Win laptop. I line my stuff through a Behringer external sound card.

I'm partly "invested" in the Apple ecosystem I guess...being on a iPhone 6 and my family's main browser/kids stuff is the iPad.

Now, my Win laptop is 5 years old and I need to upgrade, I need a laptop and not a stationary machine so I can work on songs from anywhere. My first thought was the upcoming rMBP but I'm just not that sure anymore...I love the design and OS and all of Apples products but I'm having a hard time justifying just that for a purchase when I on the other hand can get an XPS or similar powered Win laptop cheaper with Reaper as my main DAW instead. The other route would be the upcoming rMBP with Logic or Reaper. I have not had any problems with Win 10 so far.

Is there any audio guys out there that can share something; thoughts/input about choosing the new MBP with the Logic or Reaper DAW route over the Win with Reaper DAW route and why you have come to your decision?

Any input appreciated! Cheers guys,

(located in the EU/Sweden if you have thoughts on Apple/PC prices etc)
I currently use a 2014 low end 13" MacBook Pro for audio recording, and it's amazing for it. I'm using Logic (which I love and would absolutely recommend) with an average of 8 inputs at a time. We have a fully miced drum set, guitars, vocals, and midi all going in and the system handles it great. I'm sure the new ones, especially the 15" will be a beast handling that sort of workload. Bouncing takes a little longer on the 13", but besides that it's great. I would for sure recommend it. The ability to use the audio midi for logic is great, and it's just an all around good program, especially for writing. We actually ended up recording a full length album with Logic and used it to mix, and the tools it contains are great, plus it has great 3rd party plug-in support
 
Hello guys!! I was investigating about possible processors in new macbook pro and I found this result in geekbech3 browser. It's the only i7 with iris graphics 550 (28w) and It was tested with a Mac!!!View attachment 632079

What do you think about this??

That benchmark is fake according to MacRumors, and it actually represents a Hackintosh. They already reported on it back in January.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/01/18/skylake-macbook-pro-benchmarks-fake/
 
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