I would say that's not a webapp, it's actually the native app loaded `on-the-fly`.
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I would say that's not a webapp, it's actually the native app loaded `on-the-fly`.
At least try to read the last 200 pages of this thread before leaving a comment. Do we really have to discuss the same things every time someone discovers something "new". /s
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Wow it was actually on page 141!!! Sorry I meant to say read the last 350 pages.
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lol hello no, im in the market for the "pro" not for the "book" part...
Hate the keyboard, hate the performance // price.
Nope.
And I still don't understand what kind of needs have you people, for being uncertain between MacBook and MacBook Pro...
They are completely different products, with extremely different specs.
Also, if you need a MacBook, you shouldn't even wait the WWDC, you can just buy it now.
It's the only fresh computer Apple has nowadays.
Man, don't be so harsh... One Apple glows, the other doesn't! It might be a hard decision.
You guys, I had the absolute weirdest dream ever about the new MacBook Pro last night. I bought one, but their was a showstopping problem. For some reason, Apple decided to make the case for the new MBP out of cheese, and the machine kept melting every time I used it.
I'm not sure what this says about my mental state.
I'm not sure what this says about my mental state.
Let me give you an example.Nope.
And I still don't understand what kind of needs have you people, for being uncertain between MacBook and MacBook Pro...
They are completely different products, with extremely different specs.
Also, if you need a MacBook, you shouldn't even wait the WWDC, you can just buy it now.
It's the only fresh computer Apple has nowadays.
I'm thinking between having maxed out rMBP 15" only, or almost maxed out rMBP 15" (I will most likely only use it while in business trips and on holidays abroad so it's not that optimal) + maxed out workstation, or maxed out rMB 12" + maxed out workstation.
If Apple added TB3 to their rMB recently, I would probably have bought it and left this thread. Now that they haven't, I'm not buying rMB analogues from other vendors with TB3 in hope of outstanding rMBP 15" released in June because rMB analogues from other vendors are not that shiny and beautiful and technological.
But if they choose to not release rMBP 15" in June or release ****, I will most likely choose between apples and apples (e. g. HP rMB analogue vs HP rMBP analogue) and not apples and oranges (rMB vs HP rMBP analogue) like it is now.
I only have 1 solid laptop - and i want it as strong as it gets. The Macbook is not an option, especially not at this pricepoint. I already own an 12'9 iPad Pro for all those 'lesser' tasks like web browsing, netflixing, emailing etc.
But i cannot attach a serial to usb cable, plug into a Cisco and run some wireshark traces, run multiple VMs etc. Unfortunately, the 12' Macbook does not have enough horsepower for this either so this is definately not an option.
But i cannot attach a serial to usb cable, plug into a Cisco and run some wireshark traces, run multiple VMs etc. Unfortunately, the 12' Macbook does not have enough horsepower for this either so this is definately not an option.
http://videocardz.com/60211/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080m-faster-than-gtx-titan-x - gpu for new macbook pro
Nope.
And I still don't understand what kind of needs have you people, for being uncertain between MacBook and MacBook Pro...
They are completely different products, with extremely different specs.
Also, if you need a MacBook, you shouldn't even wait the WWDC, you can just buy it now.
It's the only fresh computer Apple has nowadays.
Wrong, I had a 2015 MacBook, and it was pretty amazing. I'd still have it if my 2.5 year old didn't spill a bunch of water on it. Long story. Anyway, I was using the laptop for computational analysis, running 800,000 fairly simple equations, collecting the results, and analyzing (<100 line program for school, you know, simple stuff) through C on Xcode, and it was able to do that without any heat, in only a few seconds. I think it was less than 4 seconds.
I also play WoW, though a lot less than I did when I was without kids. I was able to play at "normal" screen resolution (pixel doubled, not at retina) with about 40-60 fps - admittedly, all the settings were turned to "low", but it worked fine for that not-very-graphically-challenging game.
So, for my needs, the rMB worked pretty well. Light, easy to carry, great though small screen, it chewed through computational analysis no problem, played my favorite game ok. People think this is a 1.1GHz computer, it's really a 2.2GHz computer with a low-power mode for when you're not using that much processor power.
BUT, since I've got to replace the computer anyway...I'd like to be able to run larger, more complicated programs faster (rMB would have been fine for more complex problems at school, just would've taken longer). I'd like to turn more graphics settings up in WoW. I'd really like a bigger screen.
That said, if there's no update at all, I've waited long enough. I can afford another rMB. I'd just rather have the bigger, more capable computer now that I'm not traveling for work as much.
So there's what I think is a reasonable set of needs that can be met by both computers. Make sense?
Multi-core does not guarantee performance improvement. Depends on how the software is written and if the program/algorithm can be parallelised at all.
Some applications still use single core chips cos they have higher clock speed than multi-core chips.
My current machine (see signature) is still running fairly strong. I doubled the RAM, but still haven't given it an SSD, which I know would make things much better. I'm used to the time it takes to accomplish my tasks.
It runs Diablo 3 on low settings (with some textures and details turned up) fine, edits RAW images from my 6D pretty well (my primary use), and handles 1080p video editing via Premiere fine as well. The fans blow like crazy most of the time, and the thing is 1.3" tall and weighs 6.4lbs, so it's a beast.
People say you need quad core i7 and 16GB of RAM for photo and video editing, but that's simply not true. I do all of that just fine. It'll be a tough call between the 13" and 15" when these babies finally see the light of day. I'm sure I'd be fine with the power of the 13", but I don't want to rely on an external screen. The base 15" seems like a really great deal; the better integrated graphics will be nice for the light gaming that I do, and I'm sure I'll see the benefits of the extra RAM. I'd nix the quad-core if it was possible to save some money. SSD would be my only possible upgrade (please reduce the price!).
It runs Diablo 3 on low settings (with some textures and details turned up) fine, edits RAW images from my 6D pretty well (my primary use), and handles 1080p video editing via Premiere fine as well. The fans blow like crazy most of the time, and the thing is 1.3" tall and weighs 6.4lbs, so it's a beast.
People say you need quad core i7 and 16GB of RAM for photo and video editing, but that's simply not true. I do all of that just fine. It'll be a tough call between the 13" and 15" when these babies finally see the light of day. I'm sure I'd be fine with the power of the 13", but I don't want to rely on an external screen. The base 15" seems like a really great deal; the better integrated graphics will be nice for the light gaming that I do, and I'm sure I'll see the benefits of the extra RAM. I'd nix the quad-core if it was possible to save some money. SSD would be my only possible upgrade (please reduce the price!).
Nerds have a tendency to over-provision because they think it makes them look clever if they say they "need" loads of resources. I always lol when people say they need to run MULTIPLE VMs off their laptop. What a ridiculous use case.
You can host system software in the cloud for single digit dollars a month now and every year it gets rarer and rarer to find places where you can't get online.
Gaming laptops are one of the biggest scams out there (notice they are mostly marketed at children, inexperienced consumers). Placing expensive components in small enclosures where they can't be properly cooled and/or replaced is a fool's errand and a waste of money.
Laptop use case should be optimized for portability, usability (good screen, trackpad, keyboard) and battery life.
This thread and the long ass wait makes me want to cry
All of us nerds sitting here with our over-provisioned 2011/2012 MBPs waiting for Apple to get off their asses.
Just out of curiosity, is it at all possible to have a water cooled rMBP and would it have a high impact on performance?
Just wondering since the Lumia 950xl has water cooling in a smartphone enclosure, it seems doable in a rMBP?
Just wondering since the Lumia 950xl has water cooling in a smartphone enclosure, it seems doable in a rMBP?
Thank you @j1104638 and @purfledspruce for your responses.
They really make sense.
I don't think anyone want to "look clever" for saying that.
I speak for me, but I need a powerful machine because is an investment for the future, and I don't want to worry or have always to check if my computer fit for with requirements.
Also, not all laptops "should be optimized just for portability".
There are people with different uses as you.
They really make sense.
I don't think anyone want to "look clever" for saying that.
I speak for me, but I need a powerful machine because is an investment for the future, and I don't want to worry or have always to check if my computer fit for with requirements.
Also, not all laptops "should be optimized just for portability".
There are people with different uses as you.
But look,
Not saying that people don't sometimes buy more than they need (hell, I'm guilty. I got 16GB of RAM and probably didn't need it. But it's soldered in, so I didn't want to eventually feel limited if I ended up needing it.) But not all uses are the same. Sure, your computer handles 1080p video editing at an acceptable level for you, but what about 4 or 5k? Still, upgrading too often is still a problem. Your computer should be able to perform at a reasonable level for multiple years.
Think they're marketed towards gamers, not children.
Yes, it's possible in laptops. In fact, in many ways it'd be a good idea. But the maintainability is ****. Watercooling is generally for people who know how to fix stuff when it goes wrong.
Of course, if Apple were to NAIL watercooling, we could end up with machines where the cooling takes place behind the screen for example. That would be pretty nice.
let's not mistake watercooling with heatpipes.
there are several differences between the two, but in general, watercooling is when you circulate water with a pump and then exchange heat with air through a radiator and a fan.
with heatpipes, afaik, you have a phase change from liquid to gas (evaporation) and condensation through a radiator (more or less like a home fridge) but without the need for a pump to circulate the liquid hence can be fitted in smaller devices.
i bet the nokia 950xl has something similar to the latter.
I remember the sp4 pro has something like the above, where they dissipate part of the heat through conduction with the chassis, reducing the need for a fan.
there are several differences between the two, but in general, watercooling is when you circulate water with a pump and then exchange heat with air through a radiator and a fan.
with heatpipes, afaik, you have a phase change from liquid to gas (evaporation) and condensation through a radiator (more or less like a home fridge) but without the need for a pump to circulate the liquid hence can be fitted in smaller devices.
i bet the nokia 950xl has something similar to the latter.
I remember the sp4 pro has something like the above, where they dissipate part of the heat through conduction with the chassis, reducing the need for a fan.
Yes. Well, to be more accurate, I'm thinking about replacing my iPad Pro with a MB and my 15" MBP with a desktop, OR replacing both with a new MBP - depending on how fast/light/quiet they are. I probably won't wait past WWDC to make that decision.
Absolutely.
My girlfriend just bought the m7 1.3 Ghz model and it's surprisingly powerful. It handles 50mb raw pictures in Photoshop without a hiccup!
I'm telling you guys: that m7 is a mean little beast. Unless you're doing 4k video encoding, high-end Photoshop stuff, or something really PRO, the new Macbook is more than capable enough for your every-day needs.
If Apple doesnt come up with something amazing next month, I will buy a space grey Macbook m7 and be done with the damn waiting.
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Nope, screen's too small. If they release a 14" version and make it just a little bit cheaper, I might consider it.
Core m7 with 256 GB for €1649 would be the same price as the 13" pro, I'm willing to pay that.
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