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I believe you, and I'm also leaning towards the idea that he means the fiscal quarter. The only reason I can't say I'm sure about it, is that every article that I've seen about it has been all bummed out about it being later than expected. I assume they've been able to read the actual note, which I haven't.

Online journalism is a joke.
Most articles are straight up copied from other sites, which copied them from another site, which copied them from the original source, which got some information from another person, which was in contact with Ming-Chi Kuo.

There is a lot of potential for errors, only one journalist has to interpretate something wrong and it will get copied by others.
 
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If you want your pen and paper signature to be digital it is really easy...
Just write it with a black pen on a white paper, hold it up to the camera and tell preview to import it.
now you have it digitally for when you need it...
There is no reason you should need an Apple Pencil and a fancy trackpad for that...

I think it's more then just having a digital image (.png) of your signature. Its more like the capability to live sign legal documents etc. This would be more secure and trustable then having a copy and paste-able file of your signature that someone can misuse.
 
Interesting article:
Opinion: What can we expect from the 2016 MacBook Pro, and will it be worth the wait?
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It is not mainstream globaly recognized by the courts or governments
This varies wildly by the court and/or government body, possibly by department. My career involves a lot of signatures, and sometimes digital signatures are allowed, sometimes not. But it has nothing to do with the ability to use an Apple pencil or not.

Are you talking about signatures with digital certificates? I understand he meant digital signatures by hand - with Apple pencil.
You can sign an actual piece of paper and capture it in preview, there are capacitive styluses now that would allow you to do this in real-time on your mac, and there are apps such as Docusign that allow the same thing. Digital signatures simply aren't new in any sense of the word. They weren't new when Apple added them to Preview.

Why are you always so disdainful ? Do you think you are superior ?
You literally joined today. Let's not pretend you have a clue of what you're talking about.

If you want your pen and paper signature to be digital it is really easy...
Just write it with a black pen on a white paper, hold it up to the camera and tell preview to import it.
now you have it digitally for when you need it...
There is no reason you should need an Apple Pencil and a fancy trackpad for that...
This.

Well... not exactly... with Apple pencil you get information about motion, pressure, angle ... That is more important part of hand written signature than just group of pixels.
You get that with a regular pencil as well.
 
This varies wildly by the court and/or government body, possibly by department. My career involves a lot of signatures, and sometimes digital signatures are allowed, sometimes not. But it has nothing to do with the ability to use an Apple pencil or not.

You can sign an actual piece of paper and capture it in preview, there are capacitive styluses now that would allow you to do this in real-time on your mac, and there are apps such as Docusign that allow the same thing. Digital signatures simply aren't new in any sense of the word. They weren't new when Apple added them to Preview.

You literally joined today. Let's not pretend you have a clue of what you're talking about.

This.

You get that with a regular pencil as well.
It doesn't mean i read this thread from a long time, if i joined today i would not say that
 
It doesn't mean i read this thread from a long time, if i joined today i would not say that
You still don't have a clue about me, or what my posts are "always" like. Digital signatures are not new. Saying so isn't disdainful, it's just stating a fact.
 
I am not sure if you really don't understand what we are trying to tell you or ... I just hope your career don't depend on your attitude...

Wish you all the best!

Ok, you got me. Digital signatures are a totally new technology. Now am I being nice?
 
From a Macworld article:

"We're still keeping our fingers crossed for WWDC 2016 and it seems to be the most likely option, but there has been one recent rumour from trusted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo that suggests the new MacBooks will be coming out in the fourth quarter of 2016, which runs from July to September for Apple. Read on for more from Ming-Chi Kuo's latest report."

Looks like they're saying it's the fiscal year which would mean WWDC.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac/2016-macbook-pro-retina-release-date-uk-wwdc-touch-id-3593988/
 
This is off topic, but does anybody think that 10.12 will cutoff support for some MacBook Pro's that are currently supported? I have a 2011 MacBook Pro and I still want it to be up-to-date OS wise until I can pick up a 2016 MBP.

And if they do, what would be the deciding factor? The amount of RAM, the processor (cutting off all C2D, for example), or cutting off all Macs that aren't capable of Metal? If it will happen, I really hope it's not the last one obviously.

Also, I can't imagine they would cut off anything newer than 2012 because they still sell the 2012 MBP, so I feel like my 2011 may be in jeopardy.
 
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Ok, you got me. Digital signatures are a totally new technology. Now am I being nice?
I am just saying what i here what that will be in the future for macos and the pencil. Live streaming documents for digital signature by hand is not allowed in court for now because is not a big deal at this moment,like the rules for autonome cars doesnt exist because there are not mainstream,mercedes e class force you by law to touch your steering wheel from time to time.
 
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From a Macworld article:

"Read on for more from Ming-Chi Kuo's latest report."

It's really strange to me that the original report is nowhere to be found... How can all these sites just copy others without access to the report for verification?
 
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This is off topic, but does anybody think that 10.12 will cutoff support for some MacBook Pro's that are currently supported? I have a 2011 MacBook Pro and I still want it to be up-to-date OS wise until I can pick up a 2016 MBP.

Here's the current list for El Capitan:
  • MacBook (Early 2015)
  • MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
  • MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
  • MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
  • Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
  • iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
  • Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
  • Xserve (Early 2009)
I'm sure you will be safe. I would bet the 2007-2008 Macs finally fall off.
 
Here's the current list for El Capitan:
  • MacBook (Early 2015)
  • MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
  • MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
  • MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
  • Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
  • iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
  • Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
  • Xserve (Early 2009)
I'm sure you will be safe. I would bet the 2007-2008 Macs finally fall off.

that's the official list, but el capitan bricked my early 2008 MBP so i had to revert back to yosemite from a time machine back up. Approach with caution.
 
This is off topic, but does anybody think that 10.12 will cutoff support for some MacBook Pro's that are currently supported? I have a 2011 MacBook Pro and I still want it to be up-to-date OS wise until I can pick up a 2016 MBP.

And if they do, what would be the deciding factor? The amount of RAM, the processor (cutting off all C2D, for example), or cutting off all Macs that aren't capable of Metal? If it will happen, I really hope it's not the last one obviously.

Also, I can't imagine they would cut off anything newer than 2012 because they still sell the 2012 MBP, so I feel like my 2011 may be in jeopardy.

My honest guess is anything below the Core-i series will be cut off, then slowly ditching non-retina machines in the following versions.
 
Here's the current list for El Capitan:
  • MacBook (Early 2015)
  • MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
  • MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
  • MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
  • Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
  • iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
  • Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
  • Xserve (Early 2009)
I'm sure you will be safe. I would bet the 2007-2008 Macs finally fall off.

Yeah, I knew that MacBook Pro's all the way back to 2007 are currently supported. However, you never know when Apple is going to drastically cull the herd so to speak.
 
My honest guess is anything below the Core-i series will be cut off, then slowly ditching non-retina machines in the following versions.
Actually everything before Nehalem since it brings QPI/hyper threading/turbo boost. The 2009 Mac Pro should be included.
Not sure if the RAM limitation will be lift to 4GB, since some 2011 MBAs are restricted to 2GB.
 
that's the official list, but el capitan bricked my early 2008 MBP so i had to revert back to yosemite from a time machine back up. Approach with caution.

True enough. I have the 13" MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum) and I was crossing my fingers during my El Capitan update. El Capitan works well enough, except I get more and more spinning rainbow wheels these days on routine tasks, like saving a spreadsheet.
 
I think that's called journalism these days.
Though to be fair, I'm not sure what bloggers/reporters are supposed to do. Perhaps not cover it, or add in more disclosure about the lack of verification? I went to the source (http://research.kgi.com.tw/KGI1/index.htm), and all of their content (such as Kuo's report) is behind a paywall.
From the KGI website:
All intellectual property rights in this report belong to us, and any contents herein shall not be quoted, posted, or distributed in any form or in any way without our prior written consent.
Subscriptions to securities reports like these are usually very very costly, and they work very hard to make sure that people can't just get their information for free. There's a reason that the report isn't readily available on the internet.
 
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True enough. I have the 13" MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum) and I was crossing my fingers during my El Capitan update. El Capitan works well enough, except I get more and more spinning rainbow wheels these days on routine tasks, like saving a spreadsheet.

i believe that, Yosemite is surprisingly capable, but i believe Mavericks ran better for me. I'm still able to use Creative Suite for basic things, it just requires some patience.
 
Wow. That would be awesome! Being able to just tap the app you want to start, just like on your phone/tablet!

To what benefit? So that it is cool? If I'm working I'd have to lift my hand from the mouse or keyboard to touch the icon of the program I want to start, instead of just making a twitch move with my wrist and start it with a click of the mouse. I don't know yet how they will actually make this useful and I'm open for everything, but so far this screams "gimick" to me.
 
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is not about tap to start an app...its like tap the click of a mouse and start..so same deal...its about the customization that function you will be able to have in apps
 
The OLED function keys seem gimmicky to me too, but it also kind of reminds me of the reaction to the leaks for the multitouch trackpad when it first came out.

Does anyone else remember the leaks (way back in 2008 I think?) for the first unibody MBP that came out right before it was actually announced? They were hazy pictures of a trackpad with no buttons at a time when many mac users (I was not a mac user yet at that point) were begging apple for a second mouse button. People had VERY negative reactions to that leak but the multitouch trackpad is arguably one of the best things to ever happen to the Macbook.

So lets just wait and see.
 
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