Yes but i dont know how easy you can read them since is on the keyboard..i would love that touch bar to be between the lid and the base , i think that way was in front of your eyes, but maybe they figure that will not distract from the display this way too much
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I checked quickly the other forums, and seems like it is really the biggest thread in MacRumors.
Update: seems that the touchbar has some sensors that overwrite any notification or lyrics or whatever when your fingers/hand approches the touch bar and the fn keys are active then
Wow, that's a lot of pages of comments today guys. I see Mr. Kuo has paid us a visit.
Required reading for all MacRumors readers:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/30/2013-rumor-retrospective-all-the-leaks-were/
Sorry there isn't a more recent one, but 2012 was when Kuo became Nostradamus for Apple stuff. Trust me when I say take what he says with a big grain of salt. His track record consists mainly of intelligent guesses and broad predictions (from July to December his 4q 2016 prediction would technically be valid because he didn't state fiscal or calendar).
I'm not saying he's wrong here, I'm just saying it's not absolute truth until you watch the keynote/read the press release.
Required reading for all MacRumors readers:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/30/2013-rumor-retrospective-all-the-leaks-were/
Sorry there isn't a more recent one, but 2012 was when Kuo became Nostradamus for Apple stuff. Trust me when I say take what he says with a big grain of salt. His track record consists mainly of intelligent guesses and broad predictions (from July to December his 4q 2016 prediction would technically be valid because he didn't state fiscal or calendar).
I'm not saying he's wrong here, I'm just saying it's not absolute truth until you watch the keynote/read the press release.
One of the things I read that an oled function bar could do is have context-sensitive buttons. Like someone else said a few pages back, in apps like Final Cut Pro or Logic, Apple has keyboards made specifically for them that don't really do anything except show you the short cuts. Imagine pressing the fn key and the button changes to what it is. One of the things I don't like about using other people's macs is when they have them set up differently and don't have the function keys set as actual function keys (requiring pressing the fn key to make F1 do what F1 normally does). Being able to just look at the button and see what it's going to do is much nicer, and not gimmicky at all. It has real world uses. Being in apps like Final Cut Pro or Logic would be able to take advantage of having other functions there as well. Those are most definitely "pro" applications.
Imagine we get a G4 Cube style capacitive power switch on the touch panel, light up when powers on w/ built in Touch ID...
Edit: it also makes a great status light though.
Edit: it also makes a great status light though.
I mean that surely must be the way they are going as the 'function' keys are hardly function keys as they serve a purpose of being a media controller and little more. If you have context-sensitive, as you put it I like that, keys then they really would become 'functional' and people could make more use out of it. Just wait and see a guy from Adobe give an on-stage demo on how the new OLED bar enables users to use photoshop and premiere without a mouse and finish complex tasks quickly through SW optimisation on Adobes part. Also MS office would be another one where a lot of the edit tools can be implemented onto the OLED bar, only in ms office case I'd want the OLED bar to change based on which section of the ribbon menu the user is, so that essentially the menu could be navigated only using a keyboard.
On a different note though, I know the tech is there to implement fingerprint sensors behind a typical smartphone screen, and that would mean that putting it behind the trackpad is an option. However with force touch and whatever new feature the trackpad is to get (Apple Pencil support? Seems far-fetched yet logical) I'm not sure there's enough room to fit all of that in. Of course I'd love for Apple to prove me wrong and surprise all of us
lol oh so now you have the whole scoop on the touch bar? Where were your descriptions of it before the rumor came out?
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I think the most useful function of the touch bar would be programmable keys for each application. Write a document in pages and you'll have font settings, cut, copy, paste, word prediction and undo/redo. Switch to Safari and you have back, forward, refresh and the favorites bar. Switch to Photoshop and you'll have the whole instrument panel. Audio playing in the background will show volume slider and playback buttons, and so on.
We still don't know many details about this touch bar. How large will it be? Is it going to have full color or just white OLED light? Is the light going to shine through the aluminum body and be able to completely disappear when it is not needed?
It should be possible to turn of the touch bar in case that the light from the display is distracting in a dark environment. I'm also concerned about the display being an OLED. This means that it can't show static elements for a long time or the display will have ghosting and maybe even burn-in.
We still don't know many details about this touch bar. How large will it be? Is it going to have full color or just white OLED light? Is the light going to shine through the aluminum body and be able to completely disappear when it is not needed?
It should be possible to turn of the touch bar in case that the light from the display is distracting in a dark environment. I'm also concerned about the display being an OLED. This means that it can't show static elements for a long time or the display will have ghosting and maybe even burn-in.
So this supposed touch bar will be only available on the new Macbook Pro or also on the bigger Macbook (if it even exists)?
And about the price, I guess if the bigger MB will be 100$ more than 12' MB, so 1399$, then the new Pros will then start at what, 1599$ for the base model?
And about the price, I guess if the bigger MB will be 100$ more than 12' MB, so 1399$, then the new Pros will then start at what, 1599$ for the base model?
The touch bar is a weird thought. I mean, how often do you guys look at the keyboard/below the display. That's nothing you would do more often.
So I guess the bar will be an addon for programmable function keys. If touch id is coming it could be placed there, too.
Notifications in a bar? Nope.
So I guess the bar will be an addon for programmable function keys. If touch id is coming it could be placed there, too.
Notifications in a bar? Nope.
Perhaps I'm the only one, but I still think that this OLED touch bar seem suspicious. I'm taking it with a grain of salt.
Yeah I was too. Until Mark Gurman confirmed it from his sources.
https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/734947844960833536
Overall, I'm prepared to be disappointed, but I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Coincidentally, I'll be in LA the week of E3 and WWDC, and can't go to either of them. I need Microsoft (E3) and/or Apple (WWDC) to blow me away in 3 weeks.
I used to go to E3 a few years ago and really miss it.
Glad I'm not the only one. I was immediately put off by the rumor. That bar seems like something I'd expect from Razer or HP, not Apple.
Hajek's concept is extremely unattractive. Why is the keyboard pushed so far down, and why did he leave so much space between the keyboard and the hinge? It reminds me of a laptop from the early 90's before trackpads existed.
Seems like companies always go through some sort of touch bar phase. Have yet to see one that compares to actual feel of button presses.
If there is truth to this, I'm hoping this does not replace any of the Function Keys and this Touch Bar is it's own completely separate thing. If they replace function keys, I don't see any way this is anything else than a downgrade, and something that they will just end up phasing out in later models (like Lenovo X1 thinkpads did)
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