Are people seriously still arguing about kabylake...
Again, the laptops with Skylake that are there since 2015 are the ones with Core M, and the ones of 2016 are the ones with Skylake-U. If you complain about Apple not releasing 13" MBP, it's legit since those CPU's have been there for 4-5 months. But if you complain about Apple not having released before 15", it's because you don't understand that CPU's that fit 15" MBPs haven't been there until last month, and there might not be enough yeld for Apple's demand.
And again: 15" MBP CPU's are not half a year old, they are the most recent CPU's released and almost no other laptop have them yet. If Apple releases 15" MBP in Q4 (if it's the fiscal quarter as many other stated here, it won't be the fall but July-August-Sept), despite being 3-4 month old, they will be the CPU to go. Why? Because Kaby Lake for 15" MBPs will come much later than Kaby Lake for ultrabooks/tablets. And when that happens, people that didn't make the effort to do a simple Google search, will cry: I've bought a 2000€ laptop and it has already old CPU inside. The true is it won't be old, but the lastest CPU for that laptop type.
The CPU is the same as the ones from last year with the addition of the integrated 580/550 graphics. You're not getting a faster or newer CPU. I could care less about the integrated graphics, I want dedicated GPU so they could have released them last year with dedicated graphics.
Are people seriously still arguing about kabylake...
It could look like this ?!
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If you don't care about CPU, neither iGPU, and you also seem to neglect the upcoming Polaris/Pascal discrete graphics, why are you moaning instead of buying a MBP now? I also think that Apple could have released a Broadwell 15" MBP, but I really prefer this upcoming one with Skylake + new ports + redesign. Whatever you want or I want, that won't change the fact that i7-6770HQ won't be an old CPU but the lastest CPU in its range once Kaby Lake starts appearing for tablets/ultrabooks.
I care very much about the CPU. But the Skylake in the many laptops that came on the market late 2015 is the exact same CPU we are waiting on minus the integrated Iris Pro. They could have upgraded to those last year with dedicated graphics. The wait for Iris pro capable CPUs has seemed pointless.
Eh, somewhat disagree. Gurman and MacRumors use MCK as their source. So they confirmed their source using the source itself
People are scared of change and apparently love their function keys. I gotta say I don't really use them that much... I do use a lot of keyboard shortcuts but they're all on the letter/numerical part of the keyboard. Function keys are pressed maybe 1 in a 1000? I'm sure Apple knows which keys we use the least used and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the top row of your keyboard. The fact that we've had F keys since the first PC's doesn't mean they need to stay forever. The floppy disk does indeed come to mind.
So I would actually be excited to see innovation in how that part of the laptop real estate is put to better use. And maybe add haptics - I always forget which key is volume up and down, but if it would vibrate once for down and twice for up I'd know.
But I sure hope it goes beyond just replacing current F key features. Looking at this thread and some additional thoughts, what about:
- App specific contextual items (shortcuts, menu items etc)
- Alerts and notifications
- Menu bar & dock replacement
- This would also breing a more iPad Pro-style multitasking approach to Mac, with the entire main screen filled with one or more apps only. All other items like menu bar, dock, sidebar are relegated to a screen on the keyboard)
- Visual copy/paste (instead of guessing what's on your clipboard, you can see it)
- iTunes (and other media app) mini player with track info
- Integration with Homekit: check and control lights, temperature etc
- Multitasking & window management / Expose replacement
- In addition to touch, swipe and other gestures can add more benefits as well. I can even see creative use for two-handed touch (one hand on the touchpad, one hand on the touch strip), like music or video editing.
For those who are waiting for the proved-reliable insider's information on feng.com, sorry for the delay.
And here we go.
- We do have the 13'' update, and it'll be thinner than the 2015 version.
- The new 15'' MBP will come this fall with a re-design. New colors. New keyboard. Hidden functional keys. Touch screen. Much thinner.
- No MBA update temporarily.
- Earlier posts include the rose-gold NMB. But later he said it is postponed. (But the event is also postponed. Maybe it'll be a One More Thing?)
I don't know how you guys feel, but this arrangement sounds reasonable to me.
But, still, don't take it too seriously. The rumors about Macbook in feng.com now is also a mess. Those I picked are posted by the guys have hit it a lot of times before. Hope they don't miss it this time.
Maybe I didn't see it or my Google translation is bad, but the post says "I heard that the keyboard function keys are hidden in shadow, but also engage in touch, OMG." I don't see anything about an actual touch screen. I interpreted it as those buttons on laptops that you can touch, like this.
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Actually different ways of understanding. I was also confused when first read it.
And a new color called jewelry blue will be the fifth device color.
The production of the jewelry blue Macbook has already started, but may not be shown in this event.
Original website:
http://bbs.feng.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=10354295&fromuid=4303942
No one has delivered OLED keys that are better than physical keys. If Apple does it, they will be first. And if they can do it, then just do all the keys otherwise you are admitting that the physical key is better. I hate it when Apple or anyone tries to make a laptop something it's not. Laptop needs physical keys. Feel free to innovate and make better (other) products that don't need physical keys.
I care very much about the CPU. But the Skylake in the many laptops that came on the market late 2015 is the exact same CPU we are waiting on minus the integrated Iris Pro. They could have upgraded to those last year with dedicated graphics. The wait for Iris pro capable CPUs has seemed pointless. The re-design and Polaris will be welcomed additions but I would have bought in November 2015 if they had just upgraded processor and port.
While I agree the gains are negligent still it's not exactly the same - Iris Skylakes have L4 cache which helps in non-iGPU tasks as well.I care very much about the CPU. But the Skylake in the many laptops that came on the market late 2015 is the exact same CPU we are waiting on minus the integrated Iris Pro. They could have upgraded to those last year with dedicated graphics. The wait for Iris pro capable CPUs has seemed pointless. The re-design and Polaris will be welcomed additions but I would have bought in November 2015 if they had just upgraded processor and port.
Well, I started using Force Touch two weeks ago. I still want my mechanical trackpad back.Everyone is fearing it will look and act like the touch bars of the old Dell/HP laptops when they should have faith in Apple. If they are implementing this it will be designed well to blend in and complement look/feel of the computer. It will also provide a use that we probably never thought we needed.
I guarantee most of the people saying that they would never want a touch bar or doubt its usefulness will be changing their minds once they actually begin using it.
This won't be a gimmick. In fact I think it might become a feature that we will one day wonder how we ever did without it.
That’s not bad at all, and it should soundly beat older midrange laptop GPUs like the Nvidia GeForce GT 650M and 750M.