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Forgive any duplication with this, but I've just seen this in the Apple Store:

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/H...nd-with-smart-connector-for-ipad-pro?fnode=37

An iPad Pro charging stand that uses the smart connector to actually charge the iPad.
Now, if we have hinted at the possibility of a smart connector style charger for the new MBP, could this be a good sign for that actually happening?
After all, the capability for the rMB charger to be used to fast charge the larger iPad Pro must mean similarity in their battery designs. After that, it can't be a huge leap to expect a similar offering in the new MBP can it?
The fact that you can charge the iPad Pro with the MacBook wire is nothing more than the iPad Pro now having usb 3 which allows faster charging. It has nothing to do with any battery technology.
 
Unless the touch bar is being implemented on all macOS devices, it'll highly likely end up being a gimmick. Developers won't be inclined to do much with it if the target is purely rMBP users.

I doubted the rumor at first for this very reason - without most Mac users having an OLED bar, it's even more pointless and unlikely to be supported by developers. And I don't see most non-laptop users buying expensive new keyboards for such a gimmicky feature either.

It's such an awful idea that I'm still hoping it's a hoax.
 
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The leaked rMBP chassis photo had an awkward empty space where the current Magsafe is, so maybe.
But this smart connector on a laptop would look funny, so I wouldn't consider it likely. Although, I would certainly welcome it because it'll help ease the adapter mess the new rMBP is going to create.
Yeah not exactly the same, but if you can charge the larger iPad Pro Over it, there's the definite possibility there for something similar. They've got to do something better than a standard USB-C. MagSafe was a brilliant idea that really need to continue in some way or another.
 
I doubted the rumor at first for this very reason - without most Mac users having an OLED bar, it's even more pointless and unlikely to be supported by developers. And I don't see most non-laptop users buying expensive new keyboards for such a gimmicky feature either.

It's such an awful idea that I'm still hoping it's a hoax.

Perhaps Apple is just very good at trolling us all. At this point I am also hoping that everything we've heard about iPhone 7 is a lie as well! I'm hoping that new, modern iPhone that all the rumors say will come out in September 2017 will really come out in three months instead. I mean, how else would we supposedly know so much info if it wasn't coming out for 15 months?
 
Let me point out the difference between MagSafe and a simple magnetic USB adapter.
MagSafe is quite intelligent as it senses that state of the connected device before ramping up the power.
It starts with a low voltage and a few moments later ramps up the current when the charging logic reports what is going on with the batteries.

http://www.righto.com/2015/11/macbook-charger-teardown-surprising.html

One reason the charger has more control components than a typical charger is its variable output voltage. To produce 60 watts, the charger provides 16.5 volts at 3.6 amps. For 85 watts, the voltage increases to 18.5 volts at 4.6 amps. This allows the charger to be compatible with lower-voltage 60 watt chargers, while still providing 85 watts for laptops that can use it. As the current increases above 3.6 amps, the circuit gradually increases the output voltage. If the current increases too much, the charger abruptly shuts down around 90 watts.

I doubt you get that level of control using a simple third party adapter.
Apple has always done some magic and this might hold true for the MacBook USB-C Port that is used for charging.

A simple adapter might just supply the power over the pins. This is not what Apple does today,
 
To change the subject slightly here, I'm happy that we seem to have concluded that the next rMBP will have a model with dGPU. It seems like Apple will go with AMD again.
Is that a good thing? I've always thought that NVIDIA has faster cards but haven't been following very closely.

Apologies if this has been answered, but I can't read 637 pages.
 
To change the subject slightly here, I'm happy that we seem to have concluded that the next rMBP will have a model with dGPU. It seems like Apple will go with AMD again.
Is that a good thing? I've always thought that NVIDIA has faster cards but haven't been following very closely.

Apologies if this has been answered, but I can't read 637 pages.

The AMD Polaris dGPU that Apple will probably use are quite powerful yet at low-energy consumption.
Furthermore, they support OpenGL better than NVIDIA, which is important for Apple.
So yes, they're good.
:)
 
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After seeing those 'Deep Blue iPhone' rumors.. would you guys want a Deep Blue rMBP?

I personally wish they would do a Product(RED) rMBP and maybe a emerald green rMBP just for fun as well. (like red Apple and green Apple... get it? :p)

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Let me point out the difference between MagSafe and a simple magnetic USB adapter.
MagSafe is quite intelligent as it senses that state of the connected device before ramping up the power.
It starts with a low voltage and a few moments later ramps up the current when the charging logic reports what is going on with the batteries.

http://www.righto.com/2015/11/macbook-charger-teardown-surprising.html

One reason the charger has more control components than a typical charger is its variable output voltage. To produce 60 watts, the charger provides 16.5 volts at 3.6 amps. For 85 watts, the voltage increases to 18.5 volts at 4.6 amps. This allows the charger to be compatible with lower-voltage 60 watt chargers, while still providing 85 watts for laptops that can use it. As the current increases above 3.6 amps, the circuit gradually increases the output voltage. If the current increases too much, the charger abruptly shuts down around 90 watts.

I doubt you get that level of control using a simple third party adapter.
Apple has always done some magic and this might hold true for the MacBook USB-C Port that is used for charging.

A simple adapter might just supply the power over the pins. This is not what Apple does today,

And to add a bit more info for those who think the Smart Connector is a potential next step...

I don't think that would happen as it would require the surrounding area to be magnetic and not the port. With MagSafe the magnet on the port and the cutout for it allowed a nice smooth and safe fit whereas a smooth Smart Connector with magnets on either side of it wouldn't really be a smooth or safe fit.

i.e. on the iPad Pro the area left and right of the Smart Connector are magnetic and not the connector it self :/
 
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How about discounts ? I checked already every online store for discounts... As a result, we won't see an announcement :(
 
How about discounts ? I checked already every online store for discounts... As a result, we won't see an announcement :(
What do you mean? The fact that there are no discounts now means there will be no hardware?
No way. Apple has always kept all prices stable until after any upgrade.
 
Honestly, why do you use BT on your Mac?
I have never used BT for anything but Mice or Keyboards.
Honestly? To not use ports, there is a lot of things which work with BT
nope, way too early. it's not even officially announced (tested)
Thanks, could be nice if Apple had early access to test it. But i can see how it would be a problem if they announced it at WWDC before it was official
 
What do you mean? The fact that there are no discounts now means there will be no hardware?
No way. Apple has always kept all prices stable until after any upgrade.
There are always discounts, for example the iPhone 5s was in every ad before the 5SE was released.
 
Any chance they will be able to implement Bluetooth 5 IF we first are going to see a new rMBP between August and October?
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/10/bluetooth-5-4x-speed-and-doubling-range/

I was just coming here to ask this! If they do indeed announce something at WWDC to be shipped immediately, it will obviously still have Bluetooth 4 which is unfortunate, but unavoidable. However, if they announce it in July or August it might be able to have Bluetooth 5, couldn't it, especially since it's being announced next week and that'll give Apple time to implement. And if we see it in October, I think it'll definitely have Bluetooth 5.

I've never really cared about Bluetooth before, but it seems as if wireless audio is going to become more attractive going forward with the upcoming war on the poor 3.5mm audio jack, and anything that can make it better for audio quality will be very welcome.
 
Wasn't Apple the first with WiFi AC when it wasn't even a standard?
I can't remember....
 
Wasn't Apple the first with WiFi AC when it wasn't even a standard?
I can't remember....

I'm not sure, but I know that in the past Apple has shipped other products (I know they did this with AirPort base stations) with 802.11 specifications where the standard hadn't been ratified yet. Once it was, they had software updates released to bring all of the products into full compliance with the specification.

I'm not very familiar with Bluetooth. Can anyone explain how Bluetooth 5 would be a step up from Bluetooth 4.x for wireless headphones (if it even would be)?
 
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A few points on the latest OLED bar concept photos:
1. they have basically moved the menu bar to the keyboard - gimmick
2. the info they have on display is available on the screen - gimmick
3. this will no doubt eat in battery? - ?!?!

It may look cool, but other than teenagers and nerds, I can't see how anyone will really need it
 
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