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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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akarmenia
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Are you using an SSD? I think the HDD would slow down the OS a lot. In 2012 I started noticing it slowed down after a few hours and would lock up. 8GB RAM also helps.
chriscrk
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Nope, HDD, and only 4GB ram 🙁 Haven't done any upgrades/changes to the hardware tbh. But at this point I feel like I'm better off waiting for Skylake and doing a big upgrade rather than try to do lots of little changes to my current MBP.
I have a mid 2010 with 4 GB RAM and SSD and it's perfectly usable for most tasks. There is some jerkiness when scrolling websites with a lot of flash ads. If you use < 256 GB, it may be worth getting an SSD even if you plan to get skylake. You would pretty much recover most of that cost if you sold the machine later. 4 GB, while not plenty, works just fine, especially when coupled with an SSD.
I just upgraded two weeks ago my Early 2011 Macbook Pro 13 inch. I just went to crucial and upgraded the HD to SSD and also upgraded my ram from 8gb to 16gb. I realize Apple says only 8gb but I have read in numerous places that 16 will work. So far so good, my computer speeds have improved a lot. I can now happily wait for the next big upgrade.
chriscrk
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Yeah, for normal tasks it's not too terrible. But I use autoCAD and Photoshop and other programs like that and it gets kinda slow there. I'll have to look in to the prices of SSD and see if the re-sell vale is truly worth it or not...
iphonedude2008
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I have a rMBP from 2012 and it lags on Xcode. I can't imagine the slowness of autoCAD. I feel for you
Try running it in low resolution mode. I run Logic Pro X always in that mode cause when it comes to that app I appreciate snappiness more than sharpness of visuals.
Waiting for skylake might seem like its taking forever, especially since people waited for broadwell and it never came. I've been looking at the mac monitors since 2008, in 2010 I had the money in my hands to buy one. But they took a step backwards an discontinued the 30" so I figured I would wait until the next refresh. Its 5 years later and there has been no refresh, still waiting.
cmChimera
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This is one of the reasons I want a Skylake Macbook. I want to set up a home office with (preferably) a 5k monitor. My 2012 Retina MBP can't drive 4k displays at 60hz, so I definitely need to upgrade if I want that. I don't HAVE to have an Apple monitor, but would at least like them to refresh if only so I can compare it to their competition.
jermy4
macrumors 6502a
I'm somewhat baffled that apple hasn't updated the thunderbolt display at all. It still uses magsafe 1 and usb 2.0, I really thought they would do a silent update and make it use magsafe 2 and usb 3 but now I'm not sure what they plan to do. Maybe they're waiting for the new MacBooks and minis to support 5k before they update it.
shareef777
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Here's to hoping. I 'bit the bullet' and bought a TB display over a year ago. Glad I did as I'd have been waiting for a LONG time. Crazy to think that I bought my 2012 rMBP with USB 3 and plan on refreshing it with Skylake and they STILL don't have USB3 on the TB displays.
t0mat0
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One thing about waiting for Skylake MBP (now it's v likely to be at least Q1 announcements) -
GPUs are going to seemingly in 2016 have a doubling of capability/halving of energy usage - a 2x performance per watt improvement
Going from 28nm to 14/16nm, for both AMD and NVIDIA - Looks like the Skylake MBP will miss this seachange?
GPUs are going to seemingly in 2016 have a doubling of capability/halving of energy usage - a 2x performance per watt improvement
Going from 28nm to 14/16nm, for both AMD and NVIDIA - Looks like the Skylake MBP will miss this seachange?
People use 2 monitors because they need more screen space and screens have not been available with appropriate size and resolution. For around ten years now most tech workers have a dual monitor setup where the most prime screen space directly in front of them is taken up with plastic bezels. Now that 4k monitors are available in any size, there is no reason to use dual monitors. My work setup is a 4k 42" with the 370x mbp and this is a dramatic upgrade despite only small memory and cpu improvements from the 2012 mbp. I can have 4 documents open side by side, clearly legible, with 2 pages visible going vertical. On the one hand Apple has clearly designed OSX for a one monitor experience and on the other hand Apple has not come out with a new larger monitor in over 10 years. Trying to force professionals into using much smaller monitors than they need isn't very premium! If apple were a cutting edge professional brand we would have apple screens in the 40-50" range with 4k and 5k options.
shareef777
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I've worked in IT for over 15 years and have NEVER seen anyone with a 40/50" screen at their desk. At that point why buy a dedicated monitor? A 4K TV would suffice, especially if all your doing is opening documents and not working with video/photo files.
iphonedude2008
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Its still early for corporate types who have to wait a few years to get new equipment. Only the latest mbp can drive 4k at 60hz. You won't find 4k monitors sitting around best buy, you have to proactively order one. Its a tremendous upgrade but people just don't realize its available.
WRONG
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Hi guys, does anyone have some news about AMD GPUs?
Any chance Apple is going to upgrade the M370X?
Also, what do you think of the Skylake "feature" that will no longer support the VGA format?
Personally I find it really uncomfortable.
Speaking about the I/O and the "slim factor", I'm uncertain if having just one port is really useful or not.
I think so because the ports in the previous MBPs generation are so close together that sometimes it's almost impossible to connect more than one USB, just because they're too "fat".
So maybe it's really better having just a couple of ports.
I don't know...
edit: attached imagine so you can understand what I mean with the "fat" USB
Any chance Apple is going to upgrade the M370X?
Also, what do you think of the Skylake "feature" that will no longer support the VGA format?
Personally I find it really uncomfortable.
Speaking about the I/O and the "slim factor", I'm uncertain if having just one port is really useful or not.
I think so because the ports in the previous MBPs generation are so close together that sometimes it's almost impossible to connect more than one USB, just because they're too "fat".
So maybe it's really better having just a couple of ports.
I don't know...
edit: attached imagine so you can understand what I mean with the "fat" USB
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AMD 400 series are set for 2016 release, they are supposed to be a new architecture, x2 efficient and we probably see HBM2 on the memory instead of GDDR5 so it is going to be a big change. If Apple is going to do a big redesign and use a dGPU they better wait for them since the 300 series are just a rebrand of the 200 series. Or just switch back to nvidia which are more efficient.
That said, for me seems more practical a MPB with only the intel Iris Pro 580 iGPU and the option to plug-in a external dGPU in a small and well designed box with Thunderbolt 3 and a GTX 980M - AMD M400 series equivalent inside.
iphonedude2008
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Yes please. I would love to be able to run games on my Pro without them lagging or lighting my Mac on fire. I remember about 1-2 years ago, someone made one over thunderbolt, so it can be done.
It's certainly doable, but there's no polished solution out there yet (with a fair price point).
Also no hotplugging (yet).
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