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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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NJPT said:
A June projection is incredibly unlikely.
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I acknowledge that history may hint.

Here are the three major revisions of the Macbook Pro according to wiki
January 10, 2006; 9 years ago (original release)
October 14, 2008 (unibody release)
June 11, 2012 (unibody with retina display release)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro

The rMBP looks old now. It's time for a reboot. Still can't see a Skylake successor to Haswell or Broadwell released by Intel with the same capabilities as the integrated graphics processor, the Iris Pro, available now.
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/09/02/intel-skylake-notebooks-desktops/

The buyers guide combine release cycles for both the 13" and 15" which by history we know have had different dates of announcement. It isn't a fair way to calculate an average release cycle. From 2012 to 2015, there have also been 3 mid year releases.

Impatience :)
 
doitdada said:
Both the Macbook 12 and the current rMBP 2015 was delayed for months after the announcement before hitting Norway.
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I can't speak for specific markets and delays (which are rare) but new macs are almost exclusively released on the day of announcement.
 
frosse said:
I can't speak for specific markets and delays (which are rare) but new macs are almost exclusively released on the day of announcement.
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In limited quantities at select stores. I'm talking about availability, not "release".
 
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Im hoping to make the jump from Windows to Mac with the new rMBP( hopefully redesigned)
My question is what the ram will be in the new mbp. Still 16, or 32? And if it stays 16, will this be enough for video editting?
Really hoping the mbp is capable of quick editing and rendering, anyone got experience with this?
 
Asmoday said:
Im hoping to make the jump from Windows to Mac with the new rMBP( hopefully redesigned)
My question is what the ram will be in the new mbp. Still 16, or 32? And if it stays 16, will this be enough for video editting?
Really hoping the mbp is capable of quick editing and rendering, anyone got experience with this?
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I use a 2013 rMBP for video editing. With 16GB of RAM and the NVIDIA GT 750m it is more than capable of editing, rendering and applying color grading. I will be replacing it with a Skylake rMBP when they are released, but only because it has gone through multiple hardware failures. When it is working properly it is still a video editing beast.
 
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thirdykal said:
I use a 2013 rMBP for video editing. With 16GB of RAM and the NVIDIA GT 750m it is more than capable of editing, rendering and applying color grading. I will be replacing it with a Skylake rMBP when they are released, but only because it has gone through multiple hardware failures. When it is working properly it is still a video editing beast.
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Thanks a lot! I guess I will buy a nice seperate screen for when I'm home.
 
doitdada said:
Still can't see a Skylake successor to Haswell or Broadwell released by Intel with the same capabilities as the integrated graphics processor, the Iris Pro, available now.
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/09/02/intel-skylake-notebooks-desktops/

The buyers guide combine release cycles for both the 13" and 15" which by history we know have had different dates of announcement. It isn't a fair way to calculate an average release cycle. From 2012 to 2015, there have also been 3 mid year releases.
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I realize appropriate Skylake chips for the 15" MBP at least are not yet available. I think most people in this thread realize we are still waiting for Skylake HQ chips with Iris Pro 580 GPUs. As for the 13" rMBP, Skylake U class chips with Iris 550 GPUs have already been launched (the i5 versions, not the i7 version).

My main point was and remains that Apple is usually quick to release updated laptops once appropriate Intel chips are available, and any rationale posited for a delay even when the chips are available has to be weighed secondary to that.

If you look at Frosse's chart from post #742 in this thread, Apple's mid-year laptop (MBA or MBP) releases were within 1-2 months after an Intel chip release. When Apple has delayed an MBP release for more than that after Intel chips were ready, it at least had an MBA release soon after chip availability. Your logic of a mid-year release for "freshness" sake and not due to Intel chip availability is what I have to disagree with. If the necessary chips are not ready until June, then I would agree the update would be in June.
 
doitdada said:
In limited quantities at select stores. I'm talking about availability, not "release".
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My experience has always been that there's plenty of availability here in Sweden when it comes to macs, both in store and online. Can't speak for Norway though.
 
frosse said:
Chart time again :) Apple is clearly fast at adopting new technology :)

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This is evidence enough for me :)

frosse said:
My experience has always been that there's plenty of availability here in Sweden when it comes to macs, both in store and online. Can't speak for Norway though.
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Yes, Sweden is more international and double the population. Biggest country in Scandinavia.
 
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doitdada said:
I guess they will release a redesign in June, just like last major overhaul in 2012, so availability and freshness is in line for the first day of school.



I was hit with remorse on same model. Returning it today for a full refund. Too heavy and bulky. Already got a Hackintosh and a Macbook 12. I would have kept the rMBP 2015 if I didn't own the duo. My Hackintosh is actually quieter, in fact inaudible unless I use the HDDs, than the rMBP 2015 is in clamshell mode connected to an external display. It made the decision to return it easy.

Since you have bought the machine I would recommend that you rather wait for the new redesigned Macbook Pro to hit second generation. Your current Mac would probably drop a little bit more in value. When the next revision comes, the standards like Thunderbolt 3 and USB C will actually have accessories available in stores and at a better price. Hold unto the rMBP 2015 until Cannonlake is released, the dGPU will keep it on top for at least 2-3 years.

I think the rMBP 2015 is a great deal now if you can shave 500-600 dollars of retail price and you don't care about the weight or don't own a desktop and Macbook 12 combo.
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Great, good info. Thank you very much for your help :)
 
SSD-GUY said:
How come the Surface Book has a skylake CPU, but the rMBP has to wait till Q1/Q2 2016?
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The 13" rMBP is waiting on the i7 dual core iris processor to be released, which imo will come in January [Intel was already ahead of the leaked roadmaps based on what they've released so far], redesign or not, Apple tends to be quick within 1-2 months of appropriate processors.

The 15" is in the abyss as Intel has said nothing concerning the appropriate processors that would go into it.
 
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AYNOM said:
The 13" rMBP is waiting on the i7 dual core iris processor to be released, which imo will come in January [Intel was already ahead of the leaked roadmaps based on what they've released so far], redesign or not, Apple tends to be quick within 1-2 months of appropriate processors.

The 15" is in the abyss as Intel has said nothing concerning the appropriate processors that would go into it.
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they probably have a developers-kit floating around for redesign and testing...
 
AYNOM said:
The 13" rMBP is waiting on the i7 dual core iris processor to be released, which imo will come in January [Intel was already ahead of the leaked roadmaps based on what they've released so far], redesign or not, Apple tends to be quick within 1-2 months of appropriate processors.

The 15" is in the abyss as Intel has said nothing concerning the appropriate processors that would go into it.
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The appropriate chips for the 15'' model have been confirmed, but there are no configurations or release dates so far. But they will come.


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(See http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...t-briefs/6th-gen-core-family-mobile-brief.pdf page 5, to name an official source)
 
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Steve121178 said:
Surface Book is using the 15w Skylake i5-6300U or i7-6600U CPU's. The MBP uses the 28w versions which are not yet available.
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Looking at the benchmarks, these 15w parts are beating the latest rMBP processors, which isn't bad.

This could mean we could see a retina MacBook Air soon though.
 
senthor said:
The appropriate chips for the 15'' model have been confirmed, but there are no configurations or release dates so far. But they will come.


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(See http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...t-briefs/6th-gen-core-family-mobile-brief.pdf page 5, to name an official source)
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What I said was ambiguous, I was actually referring to the actual model and configurations, as well as projected release dates. Not what the actual processor would contain lol. Well aware H-series was going into the 15"
 
iphonedude2008 said:
Yep the MBA is going to be phased out like the non retina Macbook Pros have been.
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Both the Pros and the Air look old. Typing on a Macbook 12 now, and there is no other laptop out there. This is the only one. Everything else is just a portable desktop computer.

Before the retina Macbook, it was the Macbook Air 11". Portability is everything.
 
T'hain Esh Kelch said:
Don't expect another Macbook Air update.
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iphonedude2008 said:
Yep the MBA is going to be phased out like the non retina Macbook Pros have been.
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If the rMBPs get a redesign in 2016 with color options, new keyboards, USB-C, etc., I'd hope they include the MBA one more time. They could add Force Touch as well. That leaves some time for the rMB to drop in price, and for USB-C to become more universal.
 
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