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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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I don't really want to do that. I don't game a ton and I was hoping if I could get an eGPU for less than a gaming tower, I could save some money and get good enough graphics quality
Buy a USB enclosure for the old HDD also. Even if you end up upgrading the old notebook is still usable for a backup machine or to give away to relatives. Otherwise you can use the SSD in an enclosure as a portable drive.
You'd be better off with this I think: http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LU28D590DS/ZA
No glossy screen and far cheaper.
If I remember correctly Skylake with TB3 is partially built with eGPU in mind. There was a video on YouTube where Intel demonstrated this. Although there are no polished solutions yet, I think we're gonna see some really great solutions in 2016. The ability to have desktop power in the office/at home and portability with an dGPU on the go is what they're aiming for, I believe.
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Me too frosse. Even if Mac gaming ain't great, if the TB3 eGPU works in Bootcamp, then it means that gaming got a whole lot bigger.
Heck, Mac Mini's could even join that party.
Heck, Mac Mini's could even join that party.
Edit: user frosse just posted the same video! //
It is huge but because this especific design has a lot of ports that you don't really need. If some company (or Apple) made just the box to fit the GPU with a fan the whole thing would be very small and portable.
Even if the thing cost 500-700€ it would be a better option for upgrading than buying a whole new machine. Apple may not be happy about this though.
You mean a trash can
I would like to see just a simple PCI slot style eGPU and just a simple thunderbolt interface.TB3 can power up to 100 watts so a GTX 970M (95 Watts) could be possible in small factor without a supply. It is a very powerful gpu for being a mobile version.
There's no commercially viable product out there yet, except Sonnet III-D (just TB2 and a whopping $900, yikes!). Still no TB3 ones out there from what I can tell, except the occasional product demo (there have been plenty of those, none who got out to the market, not counting the Alienware one which is proprietary).
This home made mod of an AKiTiO is the closest solution to what I'm looking for, size and performance wise.
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Sincerely hope that Intel is letting us go the eGPU route with full size cards and that Apple solves way to be able to hotplug it.
This home made mod of an AKiTiO is the closest solution to what I'm looking for, size and performance wise.
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Sincerely hope that Intel is letting us go the eGPU route with full size cards and that Apple solves way to be able to hotplug it.
As a mobile graphics chip in a dock, or a desktop graphics card in an expansion chassis. Both needing power.
Meh on the size though - $30 or so for an active optical cable for 20m, and have that hulking eGPU chassis away from the Mac. Or under the desk etc.
Apple should take the cpu out of the mac pro and make it a egpu dock product. This way you could edit videos on this with any macbook you connect to it. If they came out with one focused on video editing and one focused on gaming, a lot of people with low end macbooks would buy them. With this change they could make a true macbook pro with mobile xeon, 32gb ram, and no graphics card intended to work with a egpu.
You'd be crippling the laptop only portion for what's likely a very small market. I personally (and I imagine a larger segment of the population) want the best mobile GPU that I can take with me on the go. I use my laptop equally between the office and home so would I need to buy two of these external GPUs to play 4k videos (or what about when I'm on the train/commuting)?
If they want to fully support TB3 specifications in the next models, no matter the purpose, a new rMBP power supply would be needed at least in the 15 inch model.
There are examples of 120 / 150 watts power supplies that are not much bigger than a smartphone. And its Apple... if they want they can do it better, just look at the Mac Pro: 12 core and dual desktop gpu and power supply in that size.
Im on the bandwagon. Really great reading everyones contributions to this thread.
A question, how do you guys think the resale value would look if i was to purchase a MBP now and sell it after the next (minor) refresh, say March?
Approx loss on a $2500 model?
A question, how do you guys think the resale value would look if i was to purchase a MBP now and sell it after the next (minor) refresh, say March?
Approx loss on a $2500 model?
Sell it before christmas eve, people have money and need gifts. $2500 quickly becomes $1500. People will compare your top-tier model with offerings on Craiglists from the base model. Buying second hand is all about low balling. Apple gets a lot of press, so be sure to sell it before the rumours leak out. The three months after christmas is buyers market. Buyers remorse, unappreciated gifts and tighter budgets due to celebrations of xmas and new years eve bring down the prices the first three months of the year.
Personally I love these tight months as it is a buyers markets. Price haggling is easier. People need the money.
Personally I love these tight months as it is a buyers markets. Price haggling is easier. People need the money.
Cool, thanks for the info. Just now I purchased a near mint Mid 2015 model with 512gb HDD and dGPU for $2000 off eB. Let's see how it goes. Saved quiete a bit off retail there, so hopefully won't loose so much if I try to pass it on in MAR/APR/MAY. If there isn't a complete redesign then, just a bump, then I'd probably hold onto it.
*Begin Remorse*
Tough decisions. I am not too familiar with apple's product cycles, so when you guys mention March 2016 for a skylake refresh, does that mean that the next macbook pro revision is likely to be launched by then or just announced? If March would be the launch date then when can we expect some announcements or reasonably credible leaks?
It really should also be a buyers market just after the next refresh is announced, so that would be a good time to buy a refurbished 2015 model. I nearly pulled the trigger on a 2015 macbook pro from the refurbished store but I decided to wait it out.
It really should also be a buyers market just after the next refresh is announced, so that would be a good time to buy a refurbished 2015 model. I nearly pulled the trigger on a 2015 macbook pro from the refurbished store but I decided to wait it out.
I guess they will release a redesign in June, just like last major overhaul in 2012, so availability and freshness is in line for the first day of school.
I was hit with remorse on same model. Returning it today for a full refund. Too heavy and bulky. Already got a Hackintosh and a Macbook 12. I would have kept the rMBP 2015 if I didn't own the duo. My Hackintosh is actually quieter, in fact inaudible unless I use the HDDs, than the rMBP 2015 is in clamshell mode connected to an external display. It made the decision to return it easy.
Since you have bought the machine I would recommend that you rather wait for the new redesigned Macbook Pro to hit second generation. Your current Mac would probably drop a little bit more in value. When the next revision comes, the standards like Thunderbolt 3 and USB C will actually have accessories available in stores and at a better price. Hold unto the rMBP 2015 until Cannonlake is released, the dGPU will keep it on top for at least 2-3 years.
I think the rMBP 2015 is a great deal now if you can shave 500-600 dollars of retail price and you don't care about the weight or don't own a desktop and Macbook 12 combo.
I was hit with remorse on same model. Returning it today for a full refund. Too heavy and bulky. Already got a Hackintosh and a Macbook 12. I would have kept the rMBP 2015 if I didn't own the duo. My Hackintosh is actually quieter, in fact inaudible unless I use the HDDs, than the rMBP 2015 is in clamshell mode connected to an external display. It made the decision to return it easy.
Since you have bought the machine I would recommend that you rather wait for the new redesigned Macbook Pro to hit second generation. Your current Mac would probably drop a little bit more in value. When the next revision comes, the standards like Thunderbolt 3 and USB C will actually have accessories available in stores and at a better price. Hold unto the rMBP 2015 until Cannonlake is released, the dGPU will keep it on top for at least 2-3 years.
I think the rMBP 2015 is a great deal now if you can shave 500-600 dollars of retail price and you don't care about the weight or don't own a desktop and Macbook 12 combo.
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Usually new macs are available the same day as the announcement
Both the Macbook 12 and the current rMBP 2015 was delayed for months after the announcement before hitting Norway.
A June projection is incredibly unlikely. If the 13" MBP were not to be updated until June 2016, that would mean it would not be updated since March 2015. The 15" MBP was updated in June 2015. To date, the longest the rMBP has gone without an update is 280 days. A June update would put that interval at about 450 days for the 13" and 360 days for the 15". If the chips are available, why would Apple not update either one for 2-3 months just to have some arbitrary "freshness" before June? If history is any guide, Apple has updated the rMBP in February 2013 and March 2015; obviously, it is not beholden to have an update in the June timeframe.
Bottom line: if the chips are ready, the updates will likely soon follow. When the full lineup of appropriate Skylake U-class and HQ-class chips are available, there is no rationale for Apple to wait on releasing updated MBPs (save for potential production delays attributable to Chinese New Year in early February 2016).
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