Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[WRONG]

With the late May report from Ming-Chi Kuo, the site had reported:


So, the new MBP is the most significant upgrade across any product line in Apple history, or just in relation to the MBP? Because that statement certainly seems to mean over all product lines which makes me immeasurably excited.

I think the second one.
Still pretty exciting.
And quite understandable, either.
Think about it (beware, they are all speculations):
- finally a decentGPU worth the name
- improved battery life, thanks to Skylake and terraced batteries
- powerful Skylake CPU
- remarkably thin
- integration with Siri and this mythical OLED bar
- maybe a better display?
- probably faster SSD and RAM, and hopefully Octane Technology.

There are a lot of things that make the eternal awaiting worth.

 

[brainshutdown]

August? No. September? Doubt it.

Honestly, I'm half way expecting some sort of switch to AMD or even ARM CPUs now. That's the only way the CPU delays make sense.

Why not both?

http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-and-key-industry-2015jan14.aspx

 

[Dydegu]

I think the second one.
Still pretty exciting.
And quite understandable, either.
Think about it (beware, they are all speculations):
- finally a decentGPU worth the name
- improved battery life, thanks to Skylake and terraced batteries
- powerful Skylake CPU
- remarkably thin
- integration with Siri and this mythical OLED bar
- maybe a better display?
- probably faster SSD and RAM, and hopefully Octane Technology.

There are a lot of things that make the eternal awaiting worth.

Yea, but isn't every redesign of an Apple product the most significant upgrade of that product? Why would he even say that?

 

[shareef777]

One of the top posts in this Reddit thread sums me up pretty nicely:

I can see myself doing that, but then something pops up in my life and I completely forget about the Mac (vacations or going out with friends). Pretty sure even something as simple as PokemonGo probably helped some people forget about the rMBPs for a while. It really isn't that big a deal. This is the epitome of first world problems.

 

[WRONG]

Yea, but isn't every redesign of an Apple product the most significant upgrade of that product? Why would he even say that?

"It is really the best Mac we have ever made / the best Mac yet"

Every-single-time...

Still, I believe Kuo has solid reasons for saying so.
I'm really curious.

 

[Supermule]

I think you should go for it, but bear in mind that if you wait you could even get a bigger discount on the old model. That's what I'm looking for if I'm not happy with the new model

You have a point. But Im so tired of waiting... But thanks, I think I will hold on to my money an hope for an August or September release.

 

[Grolubao]

You have a point. But Im so tired of waiting... But thanks, I think I will hold on to my money an hope for an August or September release.

Mate I'm in the same boat... I have a 2008 begging for an update but in my case I just can't pay the premium price for a old laptop

 

[sleim031]

I reckon that if anything happens in August (although I don't think anything will) it's gonna be spec bumps for MBA and maybe a couple of other devices, definitely NOT MBP.

Now I strongly hope slash think that the MBPs will be unveiled in September- also, I don't think the October event will happen this year, because up until now every year with a March event ended with the September event (no October). Key is there are always (?) 3 major events a year (March), WWDC, September (October). (pick one)

 

[Muizon]

Hey Guys, what about Kaby Lake?
Just kidding, I've been following this topic long enough to know what's up.

I still have a question though concerning Kaby Lake etc. and I figured, you guys probably know the answer in an instant:
Will the upcoming Kaby Lake processors (not the one suitable for mbps) feature the same graphics card as the expected mbp Skylake chips?

Meaning: If a manufacturer (who adapts new stuff faster than apple and doesn't care about the top notch processors) implement one of the first Kaby Lake processors in his laptop, how will it compare to the expected mbp Skylake processor in terms of gpu and cpu aspects (and why)?

Thx a lot and keep it up guys.

 

[WRONG]

Hey Guys, what about Kaby Lake?
Just kidding, I've been following this topic long enough to know what's up.

I still have a question though concerning Kaby Lake etc. and I figured, you guys probably know the answer in an instant:
Will the upcoming Kaby Lake processors (not the one suitable for mbps) feature the same graphics card as the expected mbp Skylake chips?

Meaning: If a manufacturer (who adapts new stuff faster than apple and doesn't care about the top notch processors) implement one of the first Kaby Lake processors in his laptop, how will it compare to the expected mbp Skylake processor in terms of gpu and cpu aspects (and why)?

Thx a lot and keep it up guys.

from what I remember, improvement in Kaby Lake won't be much about cpu performance, instead in power consumption and most of all in graphic power.
Intel is trying to reach the point of create a iGPU powerful enough to handle prosumer needs, and seems that right now is doing quite a good job.
Still, the first Kaby Lake cpus won't be powerful enough as those Skylake on the next MBP.

(disclaimer: those are my suppositions and my memories of what I've read so far in this thread, and even based on the rumors we have by now, so not very much really. Take them cautiously, as I could be more @WRONG than my nickname says.)

 

[bfid111]

from what I remember, improvement in Kaby Lake won't be much about cpu performance, instead in power consumption and most of all in graphic power.
Intel is trying to reach the point of create a iGPU powerful enough to handle prosumer needs, and seems that right now is doing quite a good job.
Still, the first Kaby Lake cpus won't be powerful enough as those Skylake on the next MBP.

(disclaimer: those are my suppositions and my memories of what I've read so far in this thread, and even based on the rumors we have by now, so not very much really. Take them cautiously, as I could be more @WRONG than my nickname says.)

agreed, 1~2 extra hours of battery life would be good enough.

 

[Baldrake]

I'm increasingly thinking that the reason for the delay might be because there's something they need in Sierra. I just can't think what. eGPU would be an obvious contender, but that's a niche product and not something they'd delay their entire line of computers for...

 

[aednichols]

I'm out.

The display cable on my venerable '09 15" MBP gave out tonight, with a flash of brilliant psychedelic stripes. Since I cannot go two or three months without a laptop, I'm going to take a gamble on the high-spec 12" rMB.

 

[semihat]

Perhaps Jony Ive was abducted and replaced with a look a like imposter, thus then no new MBP.

 

[Sully]

Beats headphones are vastly overpriced rubbish. You'd be better off buying a $20 headphone from a Chinese brand. So no, it's not generous.

I'm not a Beats fan and there are other headphone companies giving more bang for the buck, but Beats headphones are no longer significantly worse than competing brands. The Solo 2's have had good reviews by respected experts and if you listen to them, you'll find that they're much improved over previous models.

 

[frankgrimes]

while beats have improved a lot I still prefer the clean design of Sony MDR/XBT, Bose QC and of course the best bang for the buck Audio Technica. Beats have a very strange way of controlling the headphones something that just doesn't seem intuitive to me.

I think these days you can get very good headphones for a great price tag , the premium market of 300 plus to me is only worth it if you are an audiophile and/or fly a lot

 

[jobush]

The mobile versions of the desktop GPU's frequently fall well below the desktop TDP. A desktop 950 vs a laptop 950 are *not* the same by any means. Not a perfect example, but people keep referencing desktop cards and asking for them in a laptop, and even still with same name does not equal the same product.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-950M-vs-GeForce-GTX-950

Nvidia previously made a statement something in the lines of breaking that status quo, so that laptop and desktop chip names would be more comparable- even if that means putting a desktop GTX 950 equivalent chipset in a laptop that would fit a GTX 970m.

 

[navaira]

- finally a decentGPU worth the name
- improved battery life, thanks to Skylake and terraced batteries
- powerful Skylake CPU
- remarkably thin
- integration with Siri and this mythical OLED bar
- maybe a better display?
- probably faster SSD and RAM, and hopefully Octane Technology.

My take:

– thinnest rMBP ever
– powerful mobile Skylake CPU
– Siri/Sierra
– OLED bar doubling functions of Notification Centre
– faster SSD and RAM
– bang-on-your-desk keyboard from rMB
– 480p camera
– same battery life in thinner chassis!
– USB-C only, no Magsafe, no SD, no other antiquated ports
– except for headphone jack of course
– starting at €3999 in Europe

A pessimist is never disappointed!

Also can people stop talking about Jony Ive – I don't think he's designed anything post-iPhone 5s except maybe rMB. He's now designing spaceships, putting together tables and creating displays for Angela. Possibly doodling cars. Possibly.

 

[vatter69]

The iPhone battery case certainly makes a strong point in that regards.

Perhaps Jony Ive was abducted and replaced with a look a like imposter, thus then no new MBP.

 

[volcomvenom]

Guys I am just going to say that I am sick of the wait.

 

[vatter69]

Just 2-3 more months. Yes i am married and used to torture.

 

[knassar]

My take:

– thinnest rMBP ever
– powerful mobile Skylake CPU
– Siri/Sierra
– OLED bar doubling functions of Notification Centre
– faster SSD and RAM
– bang-on-your-desk keyboard from rMB
– 480p camera
– same battery life in thinner chassis!
– USB-C only, no Magsafe, no SD, no other antiquated ports
– except for headphone jack of course
– starting at €3999 in Europe

A pessimist is never disappointed!

Also can people stop talking about Jony Ive – I don't think he's designed anything post-iPhone 5s except maybe rMB. He's now designing spaceships, putting together tables and creating displays for Angela. Possibly doodling cars. Possibly.

This post really pleases my inner angry, disappointed pessimist.

Thank you.

 

[jsmith189]

I really do need this to hurry up. My "new" MacBook is barely useable now.

 

[Exile714]

My take:

– thinnest rMBP ever
– powerful mobile Skylake CPU
– Siri/Sierra
– OLED bar doubling functions of Notification Centre
– faster SSD and RAM
– bang-on-your-desk keyboard from rMB
– 480p camera
– same battery life in thinner chassis!
– USB-C only, no Magsafe, no SD, no other antiquated ports
– except for headphone jack of course
– starting at €3999 in Europe

A pessimist is never disappointed!

Being a realist and being a pessimist aren't the same. What you listed sounds pretty reasonable to me.

But when you mentioned "antiquated ports" it reminded me we haven't seen Oppenheim in quite a while. Did he just get bored of trolling or what?

 

[tofagerl]

Warning: Developer question.
So, I have this extremely high spec FreeNAS server, since my gaming computer went to hell and I put all the good stuff in the NAS.
Does anyone here have any experience with running build processes and stuff on server, and just edit the files through a NFS or CIFS share? I'm thinking about NPM, Webpack, Babel and other stuff like that here, not compiling through XCode, obviously. Running the webserver on the server to see the results is pretty obviously possible, so I won't even ask about that.
If I could offload all of that from the ol' MBP and just run iterm2, I might not have to wait 15 seconds when I try to open a new chrome tab...