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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Thoughts? Obviously this is about the Mac Pro, but maybe it's a good sign for the MacBook pros?!
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac/...-usbc-thunderbolt3-skylake-processor-3536364/
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac/...-usbc-thunderbolt3-skylake-processor-3536364/
Maybe we will get this with the new Macbook Pro? Not very likely I know, but you never know 
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/03/apple-patent-force-touch-keyboard/
Could be horrible, could be awesome
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/03/apple-patent-force-touch-keyboard/
Could be horrible, could be awesome
Sure it's a good sign. But instead of 10 USB 3.0 ports I could see 10 USB 3.1 10GBps ports.
Yes. The 15" rMBP is expected to get 45W HQ class chips with Iris Pro 580 iGPUs. The 13" rMBP is likely to get 28W U class chips with Iris 550 iGPUs.
Well, if we assume Apple gives the MBA at least one more spec bump (and not put it into update limbo like the non-retina MBP), it should get 15W U class chips with Iris 540 iGPUs.
I don't think Apple will sacrifice potential performance for extra thinness. The current Macbook Pro design is pretty thin and light already and I'm sure Apple will find a way to cut weight and slim it down further for the redesign but at the end of the day if people are really worried about slimness they should buy the Macbook Air or the new Macbook.
Currently, Apple has 3 levels of laptops (Air, Macbook, and Pro). The Macbook Pro line has the best performance, best graphics and biggest screens while still keeping good battery life. Apple shouldn't change this. IMO part of the new redesign should be making the 13" more capable in both CPU and GPU.
Consider this, Apple may keep the design of the laptop the same, use a lower wattage CPU and BOOM! Battery life is over 13 hours.
This could apply to only the 13" rMBP and the 15" will have the 45W CPU for real processing power. Most of the people buying 13" will be fine with the 15W CPU.
Totally agree. The difference between quad core 45W HQ chips and dual core 28W U chips is substantial, as is the difference between Iris Pro 580 and Iris 550 (72 execution units and 64-128MB eDRAM vs. 48 EUs and 64MB eDRAM). It's highly unlikely Apple would change the 15" processors.
The difference between 28W and 15W U class chips is much smaller, as is the difference between Iris 550 and Iris 540 (both have 48 EUs and 64MB eDRAM). There's a reason Apple has been pretty much the only major laptop manufacturer that uses the 28W chips in significant quantities. Other manufacturers stick with 15W chips because the performance is similar.
In order to maintain a chip difference between the MBA and 13" rMBP, Apple may keep using 28W chips in its 13" rMBP as long as the MBA sticks around. However, once the MBA is either retired or put into suspended animation like the cMBP, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Apple move the 13" rMBP to 15W chips.
Or they just scale the 13" from the 15W for the two low end models and a 28W in the high end model.
I am 99% sure that the 15 inch Mbp will keep the 45w CPU and I would be equally surprised if they downgraded the the 28w CPU to 15w in the 13 inch aswell.
Like somebody else mentioned above the only way a downgrade from 28w to 15w in the 13 inch mbp would be a possibility is the removal of the macbook air. The 15 inch however will certainly stay the same.
But the removal of the Air seams very immanent to me (yes I know the old MBR is still around). The lineup is very much in a transition stage right now, as are the iMacs. It is clear everything will be retina, the only question is when. I think the only reason the Air is still around is the price (same for the non retina iMac). One way to stretch the rMBP down would be to use a cheaper processor with less TDP, so there is less need for expensive cooling etc.
From the other end the MacBook might scale up and get a 14" brother. However I have no idea how the prices would work out since the current model is $1200 while the MacBook air starts at $899. I would assume that Apple would like to have at least one laptop under $1000…
Frankly, I think the MBA line was getting too 'cheap' at $899 and $999.
By introducing Retina across all their laptops, Apple can re-establish higher price points.
Once MBA's are discontinued, I could see it being replaced by the MacBook line with the 12" eventually coming down to $1099 and a newer 14" at $1299.
Ideally, the new MBP's will come in at 14" and 16" sizes but with more beefier processors.
The removal of the MBA may indeed be imminent, but I would agree with the poster above that the MB would probably need to hit a price point of $1099 or less before Apple is willing to do so.
And one problem with your idea for the 13" rMBP to have both 15W and 28W processors is that your assumption of 15W chips being cheaper is not true. The 13" rMBP uses 28W i5-5257U/5287U chips that cost $315; the step up i7-5557U chip costs $426. The MBA uses 15W i5-5250U or step up i7-5650U chips; they cost $315 and $426 respectively. So there's no cost savings to use a 15W chip.
Second, to my knowledge Apple has never used chips of different wattages in the same model, so there's no precedent for this. If/once the MBA is put out to pasture, then I could see Apple having 15W chips in the 13" rMBPs. But if so, the step up chip will almost certainly be a 15W i7 chip, not a 28W chip.
Maybe they discontinue the Air and release a 12" rMB with only 4GB RAM and a 128GB SSD? Along with a price reduction of the current model, maybe this low-end one could come in at $999.
Man, those heading fonts on Macworld are out of control. The curves of the letters are disappearing.
My thoughts exactly. Not only is the MBA price point attractive, it comes with a host of ports as well. However, if they include USB-C dongle for free, I guess that solves the second problem.
Tell that to students and parents...
Tell that to students and parents...
All the more reason Apple would want to price it higher.
For me it would seem logical to keep the Air around, but just stop updating it. For Average Joe's it makes no difference if it has Skylake or Broadwell, etc. A Broadwell Macbook Air will be a fine machine for many many years (except the monitor, but that's what you gotta give to get the cheaper price.)
Okay, I need some advice from you awesome people. I'm in need of an upgrade very soon and I am unsure about what to do. I don't follow rumors or updated information as often as many of you do. My first choice would be a Skylake Pro, but ONLY if it comes with a redesign with a tiny bezel. I'm sorry, but I am so tired of seeing the current outdated looking design. I'm also very interested in the Skylake XPS 15, everything I have read about it is fantastic. I'm not a big fan of PC's, that is the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on one right now.
Will the new Skylake Pro be available in the next 2-3 months? Chances that it will be fully redesigned?
Will the new Skylake Pro be available in the next 2-3 months? Chances that it will be fully redesigned?
Impossible to answer, except from some inside Apple or someone who has information directly from Apple. Also if you are ok with switching to Windows and are in need for an upgrade why not go for the XPS? For me, and I assume for a lot of other Mac users, switching to Windows is to much trouble, without any good reason and I will probably miss a lot of things (like a good unix shell etc.).
mmm. Traditionally this does not sound like something Apple would do, however lately this is pretty much what Apple does a lot of the time. Keeping around old iPhones, iMacs and MacBook Pros… so maybe you are right.
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