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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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rezwits said:
No we do know, and we know, 99.0% of operations should work without crashing for 99.0% of us.

Go use Windows, for god sakes please go use Windows, or Linux. I want my OS tested for 6 months on Skylake with a computer designed by the people who created all of the hardware, (or most of it). And I want things synergistic and integrated together. Not just 10 pieces slapped together real quick and shot out of a cannon. I want an additional 3 hours battery life, and Safari with it speed and power saving features that you can't get on any other OS... and further more... (I could go on for freaking weeks, WEEKS :D).

But by all mean freaking use Windows. And I am jerk about this now days, because to me it's a simple victory over any FOOL who wants to use Windows or even Linux. While you suffer senselessly for the next 2-3 or even 5 years, but I doubt any Windows usage could go that long. I will be in heaven with my Superb Laptop, that will end up having 1 or 2 things wrong with it or flaws that will drive me crazy. But I will be able to live with those 1-2 things, while you save $500 and freaking SUFFER IN TORTURE AND AGONY in Windows with 10 things wrong, then when backing up becomes such a bitch, and then you have to re-install and sit for hours re-installing for days! I can just slap an external drive on or a new SSD and Carbon Copy for 8 hours and I am right where I left off.

Stop and go use windows while I sip the Apple Koolaid...till the day I die. There isn't a choice anymore silly, it's like we're on a spaceship... damn!

Laters...
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Lol... I'm sold on Apple but you have a seriously unrealistic view of Windows. I've got a Windows 10 desktop I've been running since 2008 or so with barely a problem, and a few upgrades along the way to keep it running like a modern machine. I've also got a 2012 laptop which also runs perfectly well despite having some pretty old tech in it. Never had major issues with either. I even used the dreaded Windows 8 for a majority of those years (it's not at all different from Windows 10 save for some UI differences).

My major issues with Windows are actually future-oriented, not based on how Windows works today. I'm worried about Microsoft's attitude regarding data privacy, forced software updates, the assumption that every PC has an unlimited data connection and their incessant UI optimization toward mobile/PC hybridization which just doesn't work for the form factor of a laptop or desktop.

That's why I'm still waiting for a new MacBook Pro. Technically I'd be fine with a 2015 MBP but I'm willing and able to keep waiting for the new iteration. Heck, for my professional needs I could even get by with a MacBook or even (gasp) an iPad Pro since I'm an author who occasionally uses Photoshop professionally (book covers!). But for hobbies I like to edit 4K video (GoPro and soon a Phantom 4 drone), as well as personal photos. I could do all these things well enough on a Windows PC but I'd prefer a Mac. But it anyone's thinking of switching it's not the end of the world for them.
 
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rezwits said:
No we do know, and we know, 99.0% of operations should work without crashing for 99.0% of us.

Go use Windows, for god sakes please go use Windows, or Linux. I want my OS tested for 6 months on Skylake with a computer designed by the people who created all of the hardware, (or most of it). And I want things synergistic and integrated together. Not just 10 pieces slapped together real quick and shot out of a cannon. I want an additional 3 hours battery life, and Safari with it speed and power saving features that you can't get on any other OS... and further more... (I could go on for freaking weeks, WEEKS :D).

But by all mean freaking use Windows. And I am jerk about this now days, because to me it's a simple victory over any FOOL who wants to use Windows or even Linux. While you suffer senselessly for the next 2-3 or even 5 years, but I doubt any Windows usage could go that long. I will be in heaven with my Superb Laptop, that will end up having 1 or 2 things wrong with it or flaws that will drive me crazy. But I will be able to live with those 1-2 things, while you save $500 and freaking SUFFER IN TORTURE AND AGONY in Windows with 10 things wrong, then when backing up becomes such a bitch, and then you have to re-install and sit for hours re-installing for days! I can just slap an external drive on or a new SSD and Carbon Copy for 8 hours and I am right where I left off.

Stop and go use windows while I sip the Apple Koolaid...till the day I die. There isn't a choice anymore silly, it's like we're on a spaceship... damn!

Laters...
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Stop, you don't know anything about me and you didn't undenstand what i wrote in my previous post. I am a Mac users from the beginning and i always prefer a Mac but i just wrote my opinion about the situation of Apple MacBook. I use Mac OS and Windows 10 but it is not your business. Nobody said "go to Windows" or "switch to Windows", here we are for sure Apple users, but for sure Apple in this period is not so great... I am happy with my MBP and like other users we are waiting a new generation of MacBook, hope before the end of our life. :)
 
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Sugarbear33 said:
What did he say and what did they respond with?
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From the mr call transcript :

2:32 pm Q: What can you tell us about the timing of the new iPhone model? Where is the strength coming from in the September quarter?

2:33 pm Cook: We are not going to get into products or product transitions. We did see encouraging signs from last quarter, with double-digit growth in markets like Japan, Brazil, Russia, and Canada. We're also very happy with our switcher rate -- the highest ever we've ever recorded. Highest absolute number of switchers ever over the past 9 months. We think services will continue to grow very briskly.

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The second part of his question, Is assume is inclusive of all platforms.
 
terminator-jq said:
(Kabylake is almost ready at this point) and they have nothing current to compete with the Windows laptops in the same class.

Apple is making it very hard to not give my money to the competition.
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OMG ****
Kaby Lake is not almost ready, and Apple is not late to the SkyLake party, the SkyLakes was shipping two-three months ago, and they are yet just some of them out in the wild.
I get so ****ing tired from reading this everyday from ppl who thinks there are one processor named SkyLake, just ****
 
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rezwits said:
No we do know, and we know, 99.0% of operations should work without crashing for 99.0% of us.

Go use Windows, for god sakes please go use Windows, or Linux. I want my OS tested for 6 months on Skylake with a computer designed by the people who created all of the hardware, (or most of it). And I want things synergistic and integrated together. Not just 10 pieces slapped together real quick and shot out of a cannon. I want an additional 3 hours battery life, and Safari with it speed and power saving features that you can't get on any other OS... and further more... (I could go on for freaking weeks, WEEKS :D).

But by all mean freaking use Windows. And I am jerk about this now days, because to me it's a simple victory over any FOOL who wants to use Windows or even Linux. While you suffer senselessly for the next 2-3 or even 5 years, but I doubt any Windows usage could go that long. I will be in heaven with my Superb Laptop, that will end up having 1 or 2 things wrong with it or flaws that will drive me crazy. But I will be able to live with those 1-2 things, while you save $500 and freaking SUFFER IN TORTURE AND AGONY in Windows with 10 things wrong, then when backing up becomes such a bitch, and then you have to re-install and sit for hours re-installing for days! I can just slap an external drive on or a new SSD and Carbon Copy for 8 hours and I am right where I left off.

Stop and go use windows while I sip the Apple Koolaid...till the day I die. There isn't a choice anymore silly, it's like we're on a spaceship... damn!

Laters...
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^^^

This is why Apple is not in any hurry to update the Mac line up. Wow...
 
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Meldalinn said:
OMG ****
Kaby Lake is not almost ready, and Apple is not late to the SkyLake party, the SkyLakes was shipping two-three months ago, and they are yet just some of them out in the wild.
I get so ****ing tired from reading this everyday from ppl who thinks there are one processor named SkyLake, just ****
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shareef777 said:
And if the Vaio dies, will she continue to live off the iPad only? Chances are she'd still look to purchase a new PC. As wishful as it maybe for Cook and Co, the iPad is NOT a PC replacement. It's no more a PC replacement as a bicycle is a car replacement.
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I am 100% positive that she's more likely to buy a newer iPad than another PC. And the iPad she replaces it with would likely be just as powerful if not more so than a similarly priced PC.
 
idark77 said:
Stop, you don't know anything about me and you didn't undenstand what i wrote in my previous post. I am a Mac users from the beginning and i always prefer a Mac but i just wrote my opinion about the situation of Apple MacBook. I use Mac OS and Windows 10 but it is not your business. Nobody said "go to Windows" or "switch to Windows", here we are for sure Apple users, but for sure Apple in this period is not so great... I am happy with my MBP and like other users we are waiting a new generation of MacBook, hope before the end of our life. :)
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So true I wasn't really bagging on you, just the next jump shipper comment, sometimes these little outbursts from the old window vs mac days come out, I try and hold them in for years now, knowing how over this stuff is, but it's just like ARRG and I drop one!! HEHE I hope no harm...

This is why Apple is not in any hurry to update the Mac line up. Wow...
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Yes but true but out of all of us only 25% REALLY NEED the update desperately. Our Macs are working fine, and they just want to get it right. But you're right too it was a little over the top. :D

I think most of in here just want a NEW ONE for 50% fun. But that's one thing that's great about mac "They are FUN"
 
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It seems like we frequently see the argument:

"Macs are only 12% of Apple's business, so it's not surprising they don't invest more on that small market."

To me, that seems like less of a justification for leaning back on their heels and more like a big opportunity. Especially with the current climate surrounding Windows 10 (not statistically relevant, of course, but I don't know a single person in my circle of power-user friends that do not loate MS' new[er] attitude toward privacy/control), this seems like the best time in the world to release a killer new MBP to take a huge bite out of the remaining PC market and make that 12% more like 25% (and eventually higher). Make Macs something that people don't switch to because the alternative sucks, but because they're wickedly awesome.

Oh well, I guess that's why Tim Cook et. al. get the big bucks and I sit here balancing my budget so I can afford a new MBP...whenever they feel like releasing it.
 
terminator-jq said:
"We faced a very difficult quarter with Macs compared to the year-ago quarter, when we launched a new MacBook Pro and iMac."

If you don't launch new products, you won't get more sales. Simple as that.
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So much this.
Also, add the price to the problem:
"We are still selling old hardware computers for top dollars, and sales are growing slowly"
Oh wow! No-one could ever expect that!! o_O

Meldalinn said:
OMG ****
Kaby Lake is not almost ready, and Apple is not late to the SkyLake party, the SkyLakes was shipping two-three months ago, and they are yet just some of them out in the wild.
I get so ****ing tired from reading this everyday from ppl who thinks there are one processor named SkyLake, just ****
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I get your point, but honestly, Apple is a little bit late with Skylake.
The only Mac supporting it is the iMac, which by the way doesn't support TB3, and the MacBook.
If and when all the Mac will upgrade to Skylake, the processor will be already 4/5 months old.
Not so much, of course, and it will also age well, confronted to Kaby Lake.
Still, Apple is late.

Cloudane said:
Adding further complication to the endless wait, Xiaomi have created a very interesting machine
https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/27/xiaomi-mi-notebook-air-laptop-china/

It's hilariously shameless in being an Apple copy!
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You beat me to the punch!
That notebook looks interesting.
Apple should really wake up.
Too many alternative products to their product line...
 
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