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This is what I've been saying for a while now. Apple's competitors have leap frogged apple. The fact that Apple has sat on the older chips only exacerbates the situation

“MacBooks are some of the best designed products [but] they are no longer…the most interesting products,” IDC analyst Linn Huang told me in an email.

and this little gem
But that’s hardly the only reason. Apple has made a deliberate decision to shift most of its focus to its iOS-based products,
 
Let's take a more positive spin for this post:

When the new Pros are eventually released, given the rumoured graphics improvement that put even the base 13" with IGPU at being nearly on par with the dedicated option in the current 15", and then new 15" iGPU being better still, what games are people looking forward to being able to play on the move?

For me it's Cities:Skylines

I sold my gaming PC back in February, because rumors suggested I would be able to play GTA V and BO3 on my brand new MacBook Pro in March.. :(

Anyone playing GTA V on the low end 2015 15"? Is the Intel Iris Pro powerful enough?
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25 posts per page, 192 pages to go if we want to hit 1000 by the September announcement. Announcement tentatively expected on September 6, which is 37 days away...

We'd need 130 posts per day to make it, which is one post every 11 minutes...

Guys, we're not gonna make it!

I've got an idea! When writing your comment, instead of pressing enter and starting on a new line, just start a new post!

Or, you know, Apple could just delay the MacBook Pro to November..
 
I sold my gaming PC back in February, because rumors suggested I would be able to play GTA V and BO3 on my brand new MacBook Pro in March.. :(

Anyone playing GTA V on the low end 2015 15"? Is the Intel Iris Pro powerful enough?
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After going from a MacBook w/ Intel Iris graphics to a dell xps w/ a GeForce 960M...I will never trust an intel video card solution for gaming again....windows or mac.
 
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That is not an option:mad:

LOL unfortunately apple doesn't care what you think...But I think it all depends on when they release MacOS Sierra.

If they release the new MacOS in October, then new macs will probably be in October (which I'm expecting personally). However, if they decide to do a bit more polish on MacOS, November is a possibility.
 
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After going from a MacBook w/ Intel Iris graphics to a dell xps w/ a GeForce 960M...I will never trust an intel video card solution for gaming again....windows or mac.
Yeah, I went for a Dell XPS 9550 myself recently, got fed up waiting for Apple, and now I'm probably looking to migrate over to Android within the next year.

Love Apple products, but man they boring now... I'll definitely keep my iPad Pro since on the tablet front Apple is still best, but phone / laptop... I'm not so sure.. Of course, they could very well pull a surprise in September, but I doubt it.
 
if i were apple i wouldn't mix an iphone event + presentations needed for ios10 and watchOS3, with a full new lineup of macs (let's not forget that they onlypresented them at wwdc for developers, as usual they redo mostly the same presentation at the official launch).
i'd rather have a separate event in october for the new redesigned m'books and imacs (will they rename them to simply: mac?) and mac pro and. alas macmini (i can dream right?)

don't hate me though...
 
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If they release the new MacOS in October, then new macs will probably be in October (which I'm expecting personally). However, if they decide to do a bit more polish on MacOS, November is a possibility.

El capitan was released on september 30 of last year, and the public betas were released later than this year, so I'm expecting it to be released sooner than last year.
 
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LOL unfortunately apple doesn't care what you think...But I think it all depends on when they release MacOS Sierra.

If they release the new macOS in October, then new macs will probably be in October (which I'm expecting personally). However, if they decide to do a bit more polish on MacOS, November is a possibility.

I think we may be overlooking something here, and that is the fact that Apple has never held 4 events in one year.

So far there have been 2 scenarios of event-holding if you wish: 1.) Year starts at WWDC, next is September event and after that the October event.
2.) Year starts at the March event, next is WWDC, and after that September and the year ends there for Apple.

Now, with that being said there are quite a few products that need to be refreshed (MBPs, Mac Pro, Mac Mini, iMacs, MBA and all iPads apart from Pro models and the Watch). iPhone is set.

So if Apple were to hold both September and October events and present all or most refreshes of the mentioned products, it would not only be a logistical nightmare (with renting spaces, moving people and **** for the 4th time this year, teaching Tim, Phill and Craig some new awkward speeches...) but a marketing one too IMO. Why is that? Imagine Apple having to advertise all of the products above at the same time, hype them up equally (to be fair there are dedicated customers for every product but the hype factor is what grows the cash stack) and be sure they work properly. I don't think there are enough engineers at Apple to get all that done that fast.

I don't know how this brainstorm sounds to you, but in my head it makes pretty good sense xD

Now, what I think WILL happen in September:

iPhone
MacBook Pro
Watch 2
Maybe iPad Air 3 or nextgen iPad Mini
(this is more because they'd want to show off iOS 10 on an iPad together with an iPhone. Btw, does it make sense if I say that the iPad Air may be discontinued in favour of the smaller iPad Pro?)

So what with the other products?

Mac Pro will get a silent upgrade bumping the specs and possibly swapping some ports in favour of USB-C+TB3; I think that design is still radical enough to get away with, thermal core is mind blowing, it's very customisable and ultimately works.
Mac Mini will get a silent upgrade bumping the specs and swapping ports, just like the Mac Pro sometime this/early next year
MacBook Air will get aired in favour of the MacBook
iMacs will get a spec bump and possibly an upgrade in Spring.

Call me a wishful thinker
 
There were 4 (5) events in 2012:

Invite: October 16, 2012 — “We’ve got a little more to show you.”
Event: October 23, 2012 13″ MacBook Pro with Retina, 8th gen iMacs, iBooks 3, 4th gen iPad and iPad mini,

Invite: September 4, 2012 — “It’s almost here.”
Event: September 12, 2012 — iPhone 5, iOS 6, 5th gen iPod touch and 7th gen iPod nano

Invite: February 28, 2012 — “We have something you really have to see. And touch.”
Event: March 7, 2012 — new iPad, 3rd gen TV, iOS 5.1, iPhoto for iPad and iPhone, Jam Session

Invite: January 12, 2012 — “Join us for an education announcement in the Big Apple.”
Event: January 19, 2012 — iBooks Author for Mac, iBooks 2, iTunes U app for iPad

One could argue that the education event wasn't an "event" because they didn't introduce new hardware (you know, just like WWDC in recent years). Which, btw, I didn't list WWDC 12 (where the retina Macbook Pro was introduced) above. That would be a staggering 5 EVENTS in 2012 alone. The "3 events per year" assumption is BS. Though who knows, one thing Apple has taught me recently is to discard historical precedent /evidence, they do whatever the **** they want. They may (or not) have only 3 events this year.
 
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Well we haven't seen rumors on the new surface lineup, so that's a good point right, maybe they've kept the MBP secret as well (like Surface Book).
 
I think we may be overlooking something here, and that is the fact that Apple has never held 4 events in one year.

So far there have been 2 scenarios of event-holding if you wish: 1.) Year starts at WWDC, next is September event and after that the October event.
2.) Year starts at the March event, next is WWDC, and after that September and the year ends there for Apple.

Now, with that being said there are quite a few products that need to be refreshed (MBPs, Mac Pro, Mac Mini, iMacs, MBA and all iPads apart from Pro models and the Watch). iPhone is set.

So if Apple were to hold both September and October events and present all or most refreshes of the mentioned products, it would not only be a logistical nightmare (with renting spaces, moving people and **** for the 4th time this year, teaching Tim, Phill and Craig some new awkward speeches...) but a marketing one too IMO. Why is that? Imagine Apple having to advertise all of the products above at the same time, hype them up equally (to be fair there are dedicated customers for every product but the hype factor is what grows the cash stack) and be sure they work properly. I don't think there are enough engineers at Apple to get all that done that fast.

I don't know how this brainstorm sounds to you, but in my head it makes pretty good sense xD

Now, what I think WILL happen in September:

iPhone
MacBook Pro
Watch 2
Maybe iPad Air 3 or nextgen iPad Mini
(this is more because they'd want to show off iOS 10 on an iPad together with an iPhone. Btw, does it make sense if I say that the iPad Air may be discontinued in favour of the smaller iPad Pro?)

So what with the other products?

Mac Pro will get a silent upgrade bumping the specs and possibly swapping some ports in favour of USB-C+TB3; I think that design is still radical enough to get away with, thermal core is mind blowing, it's very customisable and ultimately works.
Mac Mini will get a silent upgrade bumping the specs and swapping ports, just like the Mac Pro sometime this/early next year
MacBook Air will get aired in favour of the MacBook
iMacs will get a spec bump and possibly an upgrade in Spring.

Call me a wishful thinker
The iPad Air is dead. We'll probably see another iPad mini. I think any other Mac update besides the Macbook Pro will be a silent, or almost silent update. iMac just needs new ports and updated chips, Mac Pro needs the same. I don't think their design will change all that much.

That article is terrible.
 
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