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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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iPhone, iPads and MacBooks are all computers, the problem with legacy computers like the desktops and laptops, is that they are not widely used anymore. 20% of all americans use their cellular data as the single source of Internet access. Data usage is rising rapidly each year and has been more important than voice for the last five years. The freedom of not having cables or wifi access points is the primary reason to get one of these devices. Not having to have multiple subscriptions, receivers and devices is probably the greatest drive behind the rich and populous Internet that we have today.
As much as I want another MacBook Pro to be released, the future is not looking bright. We already have a very competent MacBook Pro from 2015 that will do 99% of the tasks required of it, but I guess we want new toys with new names more than what is adequate. Still the numbers from content consumption tells us that we are moving away from from laptops and desktops as our primary computers. Most of the content is served to mobile devices. I can buy an iPad with cellular sim slot and get a subscription from a tele company within minutes. On the other hand, if I want access to the Internet on a legacy computer, I am dependent on routers and ISPs, which can take up to 30 days to install.
Computers with a mouse/trackpad and keyboard may be the best overall tool for creating and managing content, but may be too much for those of you that exclusively consume content. Even though you can upload pictures, draw and write moderate amounts of text on a mobile device, there is a limit to how much you can do on devices with less ways to input as well as limited connectivity. As content and it's management becomes more complex, there is certainly a need for a proper computer like a MacBook Pro or Mac Pro. It seems right now that the current offerings are sufficient as far as Apple sees it, and the profits lie in the 99% of the population who consume rather than create.
I guess they are no longer making products for the crazy ones.
Ugh, when will people realize that the iPad is a CONSUMPTION device. It's taken more time away from my TV then it does from my laptop! I can't open up a terminal window on my iPad to send a simple command to a remote server. I can't open up more then two apps and have them run concurrently. Sure, the 2015 MBP will suffice, but I'm not paying 2016 money for a 2015 laptop! People can buy new 2015 cars today, but they're sure as hell not paying the same price as when they first came out!
Guess we're all getting iPad's shoved down our throats wether we want it or not.
It also depresses me the implication that journalists and the like do their research on an iPad.
Not sure if anyone linked to this article yet, but:
http://www.macworld.com/article/310...s-actually-phasing-out-the-pro-level-mac.html
http://www.macworld.com/article/310...s-actually-phasing-out-the-pro-level-mac.html
Not sure if anyone linked to this article yet, but:
http://www.macworld.com/article/310...s-actually-phasing-out-the-pro-level-mac.html
Sad, but a good summary of the current situation. That said, I don't think the future for Apple PC's is quite as bleak as they make it out to be.
If they use the same sources, who cares?
Look, whether we like it or not, many people CAN use an iPad as their primary computing device. Writers especially (hello) don't need the raw computing power of a MacBook Pro (though many prefer the form factor, especially the screen size and keyboard, like me). The photo editing capabilities of iPad Pros are quite robust, too, though not nearly as good as on a full PC.
People here need to get over the iPad vs Mac dichotomy. What works for others doesn't need to work for you. Yes, Apple skipped a processor, they refuse to lower the price on outdated MacBook Pros, and the new MacBook Pros are about 4 months later than they should be. Get over it. It's not the end of the world, and there's nothing you can't do on your current machines that you will be able to do on a 2016 version.
And while I'm on a rant here, stop asking Apple to "wow" you with features you can't describe or even imagine. I read that on the redesign thread and it made me want to throw my phone across the office. Just like phones, there are few to no features technically feasible in 2016 that would be genuinely useful and not just a gimmick. Iris scanning and facial recognition unlocking come to mind when I think gimmicks, cool sounding but ultimately fairly useless especially as currently implemented.
I think I'm going to have to quit this thread for a while. It's just too whiny in here. Between that and the constant misspellings makes me think most people posting here are teenagers and not professionals at all.
Not sure if anyone linked to this article yet, but:
http://www.macworld.com/article/310...s-actually-phasing-out-the-pro-level-mac.html
I know it's only a rumor but if that's truly the direction Apple wants to go then they should:
1. Release Windows / Linux versions of some of their Mac exclusive apps (Xcode, Garageband, iMovie, etc.)
2. Legally allow OSX to be installed and supported on non Apple hardware.
3. Allow other manufacturers to ship hardware with OSX or perhaps the ability to dual boot OSX.
Realistically, Apple will most likely not be willing to do any of the above actions so they really need to produce some new hardware that will appeal to the professional users.
Don't even waste your time. This has been stated and explained to death on here. Frankly I simply cannot understand why it is that difficult to grasp. It baffles me. Because when users post on here about the iPad not being a PC replacement for most people just doesn't go in hand with what I see on a daily basis. I get it. The iPad Pro still can't handle some *specialized* (emphasis on specialized) task.
I know I'm going to get flamed but here it goes. I'm 20 years old, all my college friends (myself included) don't carry a laptop anymore. We have notebooks of course, but the majority of the work is handled by the iPad/Tablet/Surface and then finished (although not necessarily) on a PC. Even more so now because of the Apple Pencil (that thing is a wonderful for note taking). My notebook is just an overprice second monitor for my iPad or vice versa depending on where I am. Literally. This setup is very common for most of the people that I know of. Now. "Why are you here some may ask?" Clearly I don't need a 2016 redesigned rMBP. Any notebook in Apple's lineup would be enough for me. Even the "underpowered" rMB. Well, you are right. I don't need one...I want one, and a top of the line 15" with dGPU while we are at it. I'm not paying for it, my parents are. It will surely complement my iPad as second monitor (or vice versa) very nicely or for when I might need to do work on it. My current notebook is just too old, its successor must be nothing short of amazing (hell, it even struggles playing 720p60 videos). ;D
I can't lie. Part of me is excited that Apple can still keep a secret. I just hope the release lives up to my expectations at this point (which aren't outlandish).
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I'm a marketer so I probably don't have any right to criticize Michael Simon's article but SHEESH. That is a load of clickbate garbage. The Mac is still a $20B/year business. It would be absurd to think Apple is going to abandon the pro segment of that market. Even if it makes up less than half the sales, pro units have better margins and thus impacts total profit significantly.
And as for all the smack talking on Tim Cook... I have to tell you it's way more complicated than 'Tim isn't Steve.' Aside from that fact that Tim handled growing and running the supply chain during the peak Steve comeback years, the dude thoroughly understands the financial side of the business. What I'm trying to say is... He knows what he is doing. There will be a MAJOR revamp of the Mac lineup this year and it will dramatically increase sales for Apple Q1 (Holiday). Holding off on the Mac updates until Q1 could be because the next gen iPhone is a shift in how Apple releases refreshes of phones... As it's more of an update than the revamp you'd assume in this cycle. They also diversified the iPhone offerings with the SE and presumably cannibalized some of the Q1 sales of the 7. So if the iPhone 7 isn't anticipated to do insane sales numbers, the Mac can help make up for it with total revenue in Q1.
I'd put money on Apple refreshing the lineup and adding a few new SKUs of products surrounding the Mac in Sept/Oct. Because of all these updates hitting in one quarter, it could push Apple to pull in over 10B in Mac sales during Q1/Holiday.
Just my thoughts...
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Not sure if anyone linked to this article yet, but:
http://www.macworld.com/article/310...s-actually-phasing-out-the-pro-level-mac.html
I'm a marketer so I probably don't have any right to criticize Michael Simon's article but SHEESH. That is a load of clickbate garbage. The Mac is still a $20B/year business. It would be absurd to think Apple is going to abandon the pro segment of that market. Even if it makes up less than half the sales, pro units have better margins and thus impacts total profit significantly.
And as for all the smack talking on Tim Cook... I have to tell you it's way more complicated than 'Tim isn't Steve.' Aside from that fact that Tim handled growing and running the supply chain during the peak Steve comeback years, the dude thoroughly understands the financial side of the business. What I'm trying to say is... He knows what he is doing. There will be a MAJOR revamp of the Mac lineup this year and it will dramatically increase sales for Apple Q1 (Holiday). Holding off on the Mac updates until Q1 could be because the next gen iPhone is a shift in how Apple releases refreshes of phones... As it's more of an update than the revamp you'd assume in this cycle. They also diversified the iPhone offerings with the SE and presumably cannibalized some of the Q1 sales of the 7. So if the iPhone 7 isn't anticipated to do insane sales numbers, the Mac can help make up for it with total revenue in Q1.
I'd put money on Apple refreshing the lineup and adding a few new SKUs of products surrounding the Mac in Sept/Oct. Because of all these updates hitting in one quarter, it could push Apple to pull in over 10B in Mac sales during Q1/Holiday.
Just my thoughts...
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Apple is right, there is no need for the Mac anymore.
I got sick of waiting and went to Windows 10. I don't really miss my Mac.
At the same time, I replaced my iPhone with Android and it's really very good.
I got sick of waiting and went to Windows 10. I don't really miss my Mac.
At the same time, I replaced my iPhone with Android and it's really very good.
Its been 3 years since a mac pro update. I doubt the macbook pro is getting an update this year, either apple is waiting or they have other plans for the laptop lineup. If apple is really changing there ways and they are turning into a software giant like this year has turned out to be so far then ts more probable that steve jobs was referring to the OSX operating system. Apple sells everything at a premium, if they sold OSX for $299 people would buy it. They could make alot of money with more profit margins by doing it this way.
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I'm actually considering selling my phone 6s and my wifes for two samsungs s7's or wait for the s8's next year. I wanted the iphone 7, but it doesn't have oled and i've waited long enough for them to adopt it and they refused to when other phones have had them for over a year almost 2.
I decided to vote with my wallet. Apple isn't the only game in town anymore.
The cheapest Chinese PC clone manages to use current Intel processors. I'm not paying a premium for old tech anymore.
i don't know how that's done on the ipad, but the most annoying thing on an iphone/touch screen device is to select/cut/copy/paste pieces of text.
i'm on the iphone now and i simply avoid to reply and cut out long posts because it's dreadful, a task that would take me 3 seconds with a mouse and 2 clicks.
i don't know how writers can supposedly go through it, but again, is the sotuation better with an ipad, or is it as clumsy as in the iphone?
have they implemented a faster 3d touch for selecting text, like force press drag and release?
bit OT sorry, but we have to reach page 1k somehow right?
i'm on the iphone now and i simply avoid to reply and cut out long posts because it's dreadful, a task that would take me 3 seconds with a mouse and 2 clicks.
i don't know how writers can supposedly go through it, but again, is the sotuation better with an ipad, or is it as clumsy as in the iphone?
have they implemented a faster 3d touch for selecting text, like force press drag and release?
bit OT sorry, but we have to reach page 1k somehow right?
The best way to do it on current hardware is to use your iPad to order a PC running Windows 10 and replace your iPhone with Android at the same time.
It's time to pressure Apple with our wallets. Too arrogant.
I'm leaning the same way. I sold my mbp 15 a few months ago and have been using a Dell Precision laptop since then. I'm also thinking of trying out a Nexus 5x as a replacement for my 6s...the 6s is a pain to use when your primary OS is linux
I think people are finally catching on since there sales have dropped. I was originally planning to grab two 15in macbook pros in the summer, but they didnt refresh them so i got two windows 10 laptops for half the price. So far apple has lost out on two sales and there going for more with no mac pro refreshes and the refusal to add an oled to the iphone 7 instead of selling old tech yet again.
No offense but I threw up a little in my mouth.
The iPad for education is a joke. My university did the mistake 3 years ago and gave an iPad to every student.. Soon to realise no one could submit assignments, do online quizzes, open certain links, files, no desktop applications etc. They are useless. Now my University hands out a Surface 3 for every student, having a legitimate file system and desktop OS while not sacrificing any "tablet" portability. Sure the iPad might be nicer for playing Candy Crush from the App store - But even then I could download any game from the internet on the Surface, since its not limited to JUST the app store.
The iPad will never replace the laptop, its hardware isn't the issue.. Its the software. It's a giant iPhone that can't even make calls, nothing else. Also, not everyone is privileged enough to have mummy and daddy buy a top of the line 15" MBPr for someone who doesn't even need it, laptops are cheap... Chromebooks, Windows notebooks, they start at extremely budget friendly college prices - Meaning not everyone can afford to buy a tablet (iPad) with an extremely over-priced uncomfortable terribly designed Apple keyboard to go along with it as well as have a secondary PC ,Bleh; I bet you are one of those edgy 20 year olds at the back of the lecture room laughing since mummy & daddy paying for college funds.
Ok. My 2011 laptop now only works while plugged in. Otherwise it shuts off every 10mins (with new aftermarket battery from owc).
Anyway I'm debating whether to buy the 2.5 rMBP 15inch or a w10 alternative. I was looking at dell xps and they are using the i7 6700-hq which according to CPU boss are somewhat inferior to 4870-hq.
Is there any better alternative to rMbP or it is still the top laptop even after 14 months from its release?
Anyway I'm debating whether to buy the 2.5 rMBP 15inch or a w10 alternative. I was looking at dell xps and they are using the i7 6700-hq which according to CPU boss are somewhat inferior to 4870-hq.
Is there any better alternative to rMbP or it is still the top laptop even after 14 months from its release?
2016 Razer Blade 14 or Dell XPS 15"; Both are superior to the 15" MBPr and still cost less. It's still a good laptop, but its just asking for too much $$$...
Have you got any input on anything Mac related?
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