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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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To be fair though, I think that that actually is the whole issue with Tim, that he's too much of a SCM finance guy. I now understand that Apple never found a good replacement for Tim because new product launches have all been hit with pretty bad waiting periods following their releases. Secondly, he's doing Apple great and there's no doubt about that, most people will be content if not extatic at how tims been doing since taking over Apple. Financially everything is great.
But problem is, Innovation doesn't really come from profit driven business decisions. It's true that Apple is less likely to try something radical or different (apart from the rMB, I still don't know how that thing sells) and instead are more likely to play it safe. If you look st the big picture Apple is losing its firm grip on almost every product line. Android phones have been challenging the iPhone for the last 3 years now, iPad is being challenged by the surface, and laptops are now pretty much on par and it's a question of preference.
Sometimes you need to be foolish and adventurous to make something truly great, for me Apple for the time being will only make just good, but not great.
Haha, right? Nothing big has ever shared the stage with the iPhone.
Still an iOS device. Not saying its NEVER happened, but they're not likely to share stage time for a significant refresh of their number one Mac line. Look for a dedicated event.
It's all a toss up. If anything deserves a "dedicated" event, it's a new product category, like the Apple Watch, which shared the stage with the iPhone 6 and Apple Pay and which took up a solid hour.
We could see a repeat of 2014 where there was enough for a September and October event. All depends on what they're doing with the other products.
iPhone-Definite (100%)
Apple Watch-Probable (65%)
MacBook Pro-Probable
Service Category Updates-Probable
New Service Category-Possible (30%)
iPad-Possible
Apple TV-Possible
iMac-Unlikely (5%)
MacBook-Unlikely
Mac Pro-Unlikely
Mac Mini-Unlikely
New Product Category-Unlikely
I just don't see enough here for a second event. Is there something I'm missing?
They could always run a "Back to the Mac" in October. It's happened before.
For what? I'm not seeing even glimmers of rumors about MacBook, MacBook Air, Mac Pro, Mac Mini, iMac etc. At least the MacBook Pro has rumors about OLED, chassis, hinges and software calls in Sierra. Am I missing something that makes people think the entire lineup is about to get a refresh?
Yeah, I'm not too confident about a second event. Either we see them in September or get ready to wait until 2017...
But maybe they are refreshing the iMac/Mac Mini too--no rumors because they're even less of a priority than the MBP, and that's already low priority (yay!)
The major attention from leaks to press come from the iPhone so I don't imagine there is much of an incentive for people to put their jobs on the line to leak images of the Mac Mini. Just my .02
haha I'm in the same boat.
I don't quite have enough for a fully spec'd model with accessories when I do a full upgrade so its not too bad waiting at the moment but my 2011 is dying
I am at the point I need to replace the battery in it as its swelling a little.Anyone know of a place to get the batteries from in the UK mail order?
That's what I was thinking as well. Did everyone forget they had an event for BANDS, I don't see how they'd share an event for the iPhone/Watch/Mac. Or how about WWDC which was all about EMOJIS! Apple knows these events are free advertising/publicity. They'll have another one in Oct for macOS and the devices that run on it. We'll eventually get one dedicated to watchOS and the next Apple Watch. Sept is iOS and those devices that run it.
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I would be very surprised if iPhone and Macbook Pro would be introduced in one single event. These two would likely eat each other's sales and while all the money would be flowing to the same direction, it's better to split their launches. Unless they offer an insane back-to-school bundle discount for iPhone + Skylake MBP (chance of this = 0%) it won't happen. I'm sorry I am going in circles with this but don't keep your hopes up for a simultaneous launch.
I hope I am wrong with this but seriously Apple knows how to milk money and this is not the way to do it with best profit.
I hope I am wrong with this but seriously Apple knows how to milk money and this is not the way to do it with best profit.
How does a phone and an upper level laptop eat into each others sales?
They're two different categories of products. They won't eat into each others sales. Though Apple is a marketing company first and seeing how they won't be doing any redesign this year with the iPhone I find it hard to believe they'll release a Mac that'll take away whatever short lived coverage the iPhone will be getting (short lived compared to a redesign).
Well iPhone has almost an infinite user range and many people refresh every year. MBP however has of course much more narrow target audience but its very popular with college students and demanding people. Since iPhone is overpriced $1000 device can people really afford to buy both? Of course Apple might be forced to launch these two at the same time since their Mac sales are down but still: do they really want to share the spotlight with iPhone?
Apple is known to stick with their habits and historically iPhones are launched alone because they know that's how they get the most attention with maximum profit. Slide a new MBP in the mix and the MBP would fly a bit under the radar because every September the eyes are all on iPhone. This is exactly why iPads and Macs are launched in later October–December. Only in 2013 iMacs were launched four days after the iPhones. So let's hope we get something similar this time around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Apple_Inc._products
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I feel like looking at historical release trends in this particular situation is kind of pointless as we've never encountered a time where so many Mac products are completely out-of-date. Anything goes at this point...
macOS or OS X, call it what you want, has been released earlier each year.
OS X 10.9 "Mavericks" was released on October 22, 2013.
OS X 10.10 "Yosemite" was released on October 16, 2014.
OS X 10.11 "El Capitan" was released on September 30, 2015.
If this trend continues, we may have an early September launch occurring at the same time as the iPhone launch. The iPhone will revolve around improvements in the camera, while the exterior will have a little shining up. Releasing a redesigned MacBook Pro will make the event more noticeable and generate more PR.
OS X 10.9 "Mavericks" was released on October 22, 2013.
OS X 10.10 "Yosemite" was released on October 16, 2014.
OS X 10.11 "El Capitan" was released on September 30, 2015.
If this trend continues, we may have an early September launch occurring at the same time as the iPhone launch. The iPhone will revolve around improvements in the camera, while the exterior will have a little shining up. Releasing a redesigned MacBook Pro will make the event more noticeable and generate more PR.
Yup it's true many Macs scream for refresh but putting them all into one event with iPhones? That keynote would last hours
<-- edit: not that I would mind. Separate Mac event for later in September and we'd be pissing honey tho!
As I've said before, Steve Ballmer had years of record setting profits (even into the Win 7 years) before his bad decisions destroyed the company from within.
Now Cook isn't anywhere near as incompetent as Ballmer, but he's still doing the same thing, coasting to retirement and putting up 'me two' products instead of innovating.
Someday someone like Steve Jobs is going to create something truly innovative and Tim Cooks decisions will come back to haunt Apple. All that needs to happen to make them come crashing down is sales of the iphone and ipad dying..
Yup it's true many Macs scream for refresh but putting them all into one event with iPhones? That keynote would last hours
Separate Mac event for later in September and we'd be pissing honey tho!
Rumors have it that the iPhone 7 won't have very many new features to spotlight. Same design (save for the relocated antenna bands), removal of headphone jack, possibly dual-lens camera for the 7 Plus, 3 GB of RAM...that's about it. Many are predicting it's going to be a disappointment because it won't offer many improvements or innovations when compared to the 6s. Maybe that's a reason to have the Mac event held at the same time as the iPhone event? To absorb attention away from the disappointing phone offering and towards the (hopefully) stellar laptop offering? Just a theory..
Tim just takes ideas from other companys. Microsoft tried the computer tablet thing first and failed with windows 8, but the surface survived. Now there copying with the ipad pro's.
This will be the next mac phone. Instead of creating a new macbook pro they will create a new mac phone that feels like a laptop but its really a phone and take the idea from t-mobile.
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Well do you think they would admit it: "sorry folks this is all we've come up with iPhone but hey here's a myriad of new Macs!"
More likely they are just going to babble how cool it is to be the pioneer of inventing a headphone jack-less smartphone, or to have 3 GB of ram with the top tier iPhone model. They will just allocate more time to the stuff they have this year. And one more thing: a dual-lense camera with iPhone Pro! I hope I'm wrong and 'one more thing' is the new MBP.
I read that a lot of people switch from Mac to Windows... If Mac line is not updated very soon the situation will be critical...
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