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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Why would they do that, risking an even more dramatic decrease in sales of the existing MBP stock?
AFAIK, the only product now selling with 4core skylake and HD580 chips, equivalent of what is to be expected in apple's upcoming 15" mbp, is the intel skullcandy NUC, which is not even a laptop.
i may have missed something, though.
Hi everyone - newbie here.
I joined the Apple Family just one year ago with a used iPhone 6 and I have become addicted to concept behind the brand. I love the Premium feel to an Apple product. It really reminds me of the Feeling you have when getting a brand new Mercedes.
Reading through this thread, I have realized that my aforementioned Story should not be that harmful. All of you are bored anyway.
Now then. I Need a new Laptop for the upcoming Semester - already passed 4 of those with an old MSI with i3 processor... It was actually even able to run my CAD-Program (PTC creo) - but not in a helpful way. Lastly, it failed to even open MatLab.
Therefore: I want a beast & a beauty, all in one. Ready do drop about 3000€+, I don't really care. My parents will pay half and I could also afford more. Germany wins, we don't have insane & useless college fees ;-) I have waited long enough anyway.
But I have some constraints: it should have a Premium look and feel to it. I want it to be able to run any CAD application, MatLab and any ressource-intensiv program.
I joined the Apple Family just one year ago with a used iPhone 6 and I have become addicted to concept behind the brand. I love the Premium feel to an Apple product. It really reminds me of the Feeling you have when getting a brand new Mercedes.
Reading through this thread, I have realized that my aforementioned Story should not be that harmful. All of you are bored anyway.
Now then. I Need a new Laptop for the upcoming Semester - already passed 4 of those with an old MSI with i3 processor... It was actually even able to run my CAD-Program (PTC creo) - but not in a helpful way. Lastly, it failed to even open MatLab.
Therefore: I want a beast & a beauty, all in one. Ready do drop about 3000€+, I don't really care. My parents will pay half and I could also afford more. Germany wins, we don't have insane & useless college fees ;-) I have waited long enough anyway.
But I have some constraints: it should have a Premium look and feel to it. I want it to be able to run any CAD application, MatLab and any ressource-intensiv program.
- So the Point behind all of this - do I even have an other Option than These two: wait for upcoming rMBP 15" or get the old rMBP 15" with max specs?
- How fast is the latest 15" with max Performance specs (2,8GHz)? Is it the best PREMIUM Laptop out there??
- Does anyone have experience with CAD applications other than AutoCAD on Mac?
- Is there even a comparable Win10 PC out there that could out-perform the latest 15" but still have a Premium and Slim look? I DON'T want a Workstation.
- Is it actually sure that the upcoming rMBP will come in colorways similar to the rMB? I Kind of took it for granted, but has it been confirmed by your Apple-Gurus? I saw the Rendering in rose-Gold, wow, that one in Gold would be worth the Money...
Nope, not if you want a Mac. The rMB is not powerfull enough and the air will not provide you with enough screen real-estate.
It is the best laptop out there with OS X. You can find other laptops with more power and windows.
i do not... BUT, if you get a beefed up mac, you will have the space to dualboot into windows
Out performe, easy... looks, in my opinion you will not find anything like it. some of other producers have however made some better looking premium laptops then they used to.
No rumors on this yet. personally i think it is likely as we have seen apple become more and more experienced with coloring, and people buys them so i think it would be a great addition to the rumored update.
I am running Revit in parallels and is doing fine although not doing huge models [2015 model I7]. In boot camp it was as good or better as the HP workstation with Xeon chips at work [except when working with images and renders]. Boot camp wound me up though and much happier in parallels despite the speed reduction.
Autocad for the Mac runs fine natively.
I hope this quoting Thing functioned, sorry if I did it wrong.
First of all, thank you for the quick Response!
How well does that function on a "beefed up" rMBP 15" 2015? Is a Win-application perfectly fluid or "just fluid enough" to be usable? As aforementioned, I would like to buy the best Thing once and for all - but at the same time enjoy the Premium Quality. No risk of eye cancer. Please excluse pricing from the Topic, I really don't mind paying double, but I mind about having the best possible. Which is way a Zenbook or some other cheaper product is not to be considered for me. I want to be able Keep that for at least 4 to 5 years!
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Thank you, that was the Software Feedback I was hoping for! What are your specs? That will be my first mac so no experience on my side...
I've not looked at it, but there are some very good interest free balance transfer cards available with Barclays and other banks in the UK. If you want the freedom to be a bit more flexible than the 18 Month deal, you can spread it out over around 3 years if you wanted to. From what I've seen, you can get better deals privately than the Apple finance, check out money supermarket, they have a great comparison tool. Balance transfers can be a life saver, as I found out when someone crashed into my car last year. YMMV though.
Getting bought a new mercedes and a USED iPhone? As well as parents buying you a 3000$ computer but why a USED iPhone?
Geez you should really tell your parents that is just uncalled for. You deserve NEW...
Impossible - we have at least 50 people claiming that these CPU's have been out for at least half a year, if not 1 year already. Some even jumped ship and created the successor thread - waiting for Kaby Lake since the vast amount of benchmarks of this CPU/GPU combo didn't impress them enough to wait 1-2 more months.
Please be more thorough in your investigation and report back asap!
Please be more thorough in your investigation and report back asap!
You're technically correct in that these specific CPUs rMBPs 15" always use are in fact only seen in Intel Skull Canyon NUC. And even to further your technical correctness - only the lowest one has been seen so far.
However, looking at the situation more broadly you'd notice there are quite a few vendors who use Xeons with Iris Pro chips in their mobile workstations, Xeons which are practically identical to two highest i7 CPUs with Iris Pro chips + ECC, and the third one is the most expensive Iris Pro mobile chip (i7 just don't have a counterpart). This is the first Intel generation to have mobile Xeons, so we don't know if Apple is going to use them as well, it might happen actually - bigger profit margin is more justifiable with Xeons than with i7 considering all this "Pro" part in "MacBook Pro".
So practically you're incorrect, Lenovo, Dell and HP, all the major vendors, already have such CPUs. And smaller ones, like VAIO, already have rMBP 13" CPU.
However, looking at the situation more broadly you'd notice there are quite a few vendors who use Xeons with Iris Pro chips in their mobile workstations, Xeons which are practically identical to two highest i7 CPUs with Iris Pro chips + ECC, and the third one is the most expensive Iris Pro mobile chip (i7 just don't have a counterpart). This is the first Intel generation to have mobile Xeons, so we don't know if Apple is going to use them as well, it might happen actually - bigger profit margin is more justifiable with Xeons than with i7 considering all this "Pro" part in "MacBook Pro".
So practically you're incorrect, Lenovo, Dell and HP, all the major vendors, already have such CPUs. And smaller ones, like VAIO, already have rMBP 13" CPU.
I actually imagine something more along the lines of:Yup it's true many Macs scream for refresh but putting them all into one event with iPhones? That keynote would last hours
Separate Mac event for later in September and we'd be pissing honey tho!
"...and the new bands are available starting TOMORROW.
We also updated all our Macs. Which is a good moment to introduce Apple Pay in new macOS Sierra..."
I'm starting to feel a bit sick of this. I was wishfully thinking that if they're doing something for the September event, we'd see some spy shots or solid rumor mill rolling by August. I'm hopeful though, because hinges were delivered late Q2, so Apple must be up to something.
Yup it's true many Macs scream for refresh but putting them all into one event with iPhones? That keynote would last hours
Separate Mac event for later in September and we'd be pissing honey tho!
It wouldn't be case of them all sharing the iPhone keynote though.
Realistically how many of the Mac line are going to get a significant redesign to the point of them being given stage time? The Mini will get a minor spec bump at best, I doubt they are going to bother redesigning the Mac Pro, that will probably get a silent spec bump. The Macbook is already using the latest Skylake Core M, iMacs will likely be a spec bump at best.
yes, chips for the 13" are out already, both the 15w with hd540 and the 28w with hd550, we still can't say for sure what apple will use, but i strongly lean for the lower power version (giving credit to all rumors saying the new mpb will be the legendary so called retina-air!).
personally, after years (6) with the 15", my use of the laptop changed and now i'd like to go back to something lighter and more portable. the sweet spot would be a 14" with the same footprint and hardware as the current air. when i borrowed my sis's -air for some months i was amazed how quiet and cool it runs! the 45w cpu in my 15" feels like from generations behind.
i would approve a lineup like this one:
12" macbook starting 1099
14" macbook starting 1499
16" macbook PRO with 4core xeon and all the very best, starting.. ah they won't ever have it for less than 2499!
but as a no-compromise machine, i imagine people buying it with no second thoughts.
Guys, I'm done. I'm getting the MacBook Air. The back to school offer lured me in.
To be honest, I don't need the power of the Pro. I need a machine for browsing the Internet, watching movies, word processing, and some basic school stuff. I just wanted the Pro for its retina display and I think the OLED touch bar is gonna be awesome.
However, due to the back to school offer, I can get the 13-inch Air for around $800 (or $900 if I ramp up the processor), when I can sell the Beats for $150-200, and I think that is a fair price isn't it?
So, I just think there is no reason for me to hold out for the new Pro, which is going to cost me at least $400 more, when the Air is just doing alright for me. And the rMB is not an option, because of its insane price and the smaller screen.
One quick question: I'm planning to keep the Air for three to four years. Would you guys recommend paying the extra $100 for the i7 processor or is the i5 just good enough to keep the machine running smoothly for a couple years, especially under upcoming OS's?
I know the question is kinda off topic but I've been following this thread for months and I'm certain you guys know the answer and I've always appreciated the help around here.
To be honest, I don't need the power of the Pro. I need a machine for browsing the Internet, watching movies, word processing, and some basic school stuff. I just wanted the Pro for its retina display and I think the OLED touch bar is gonna be awesome.
However, due to the back to school offer, I can get the 13-inch Air for around $800 (or $900 if I ramp up the processor), when I can sell the Beats for $150-200, and I think that is a fair price isn't it?
So, I just think there is no reason for me to hold out for the new Pro, which is going to cost me at least $400 more, when the Air is just doing alright for me. And the rMB is not an option, because of its insane price and the smaller screen.
One quick question: I'm planning to keep the Air for three to four years. Would you guys recommend paying the extra $100 for the i7 processor or is the i5 just good enough to keep the machine running smoothly for a couple years, especially under upcoming OS's?
I know the question is kinda off topic but I've been following this thread for months and I'm certain you guys know the answer and I've always appreciated the help around here.
The beefed up 15" rMBP will run everything perfectly fine! CPU performance hasn't really improved since Haswell, they are more efficient though. GPU performance has gotten better, but I don't think that a 1 year old maxed out rMBP is going to struggle at all in the next 4-5 years! If you can afford wait, then wait. If you need one right now, then buy one, it's going to be great!
I really hope I didn't offend you with --- well that something that apparently offended you
So apart from the leaked Chassis in May/June as far as I can recall, we haven't had any updates on the production? Any leaks? Depressing.
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Thank you for the reply!! It makes the decision tougher, but I technically can't afford to wait... I will be starting the Semester in September with MatLab being one a the most important things - then again, if they release it in September
How about connectivity? How do you guys see the rise of USB-C in the coming ... 5 years? Worst case there should be Adapters from USB-C to USB 3.0 right?
Good on you. Now, to answer your question:
the i7 represent best and brightest within the 'class' of the cpu. To keep the answer short, the i7 may become a worthwhile investment, especially if you end up tinkering with more performance intense stuff down the road. But be warned, the i7 on macbook air comes with the cost of not just money, but also chillness and battery life.
Just another thing about performance - unlike the MBP, the i7 you get on the airs will still be dual-core. However, with its insane turbo boost, you can get some mighty single core performance out of it. Still, don't expect anything ground breaking. It is still pretty low key stuff.
They had an event practically dedicated to bands and another for emojis. They'll find something to talk about. When the iPhone event is over, every tech site/blog starts spitting out articles dedicated to a button or specific band color. That's how the sites get their clicks, and thats how Apple gets its free marketing. Why dilute free iPhone advertising with Mac advertising. They'll wait a month for the (over)hype to die down and then release the Macs to repeat the process with the Macs.
Max it. In 1 or 2 years you won't remember spending those 100 bucks but you will be very pleased you got a maxed out mba. I maxed out a 2012 mba and it still BEATING the current baseline i5.
just DO IT
AFAIC it gives the computer higher resell value and increased longivety, you'll probably be fine with it an extra year or two while the i5 needs replacement the i7 will not
Congratulations to being from germany and having parents pay half of your stuff. Also congratulations to your chancellor. Top dog there.
Anyways, to your request:
If you really need/want that kind of performance AND premium feel and look I figure you're really only able to choose between the Dell XPS's and the Macbook Pro 15". I understand your need for power but it is usually really hard to satisfy the need for power AND portability AND good looks AND (god beware) power efficiency. Dell XPS 15" with 1080p screen and Macbook Pro 15" (current or next gen) really are your only choices.
Powerwise you can also look to the gaming laptops of Asus for example. But they are not as premium built, look "gamey" and are so NOT power efficient.
I've come to the point, personally, where I need to evaluate my true need of processing and graphics power and buy accordingly. I'm not in the market for a true workstation (mainly doing brochures, leaflets, posters in creative suite) but also need lots of screen estate and some adequate 4-core CPU to render out print-PDFs in a timely manner. Still rocking my 2012 mac mini (fully specced) everyday and love it. Sadly it's a relic of the "old Apple".
I tell you this because even though it's not fully your money youre spending, consider if you're happy having the best possible or if you're happier if you have EXACTLY what you need. Not more. Not less. But if you stick by what you think you need, those I told you about, are the only options I fear.
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