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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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If Apple were to give the non-retina 13" cMBP an i5-6267U, 8GB of RAM, IPS display, and a 128GB or 256GB SATA SSD as standard they would have a winner. I personally wouldn't mind the cMBP being kept around if they'd just update it. Clearly there are allot of people that still want it.
Impossible - we have at least 50 people claiming that these CPU's have been out for at least half a year, if not 1 year already. Some even jumped ship and created the successor thread - waiting for Kaby Lake since the vast amount of benchmarks of this CPU/GPU combo didn't impress them enough to wait 1-2 more months.
Please be more thorough in your investigation and report back asap!
Not sure about the HD580 part, but if you want a list of laptops with Skylake, here you go:
http://www.ultrabookreview.com/8162-skylake-ultrabooks/
I would also add the Razer Blade but only if you don't mind being forced to create an account in order to get access to their configuration tools known as Synapse.
As far as your needs are concerned, the Surfacebook 2 might be an alternative but be aware a full speced version of this thing will cost you over 3.000 $ and personally at that pricetag I'd rather have the MBP 15' or the XPS 15' both full specced. The 16 gig MBP with 4 cores will still blast through almost everything you are going to throw at it...exceptions might be 4k rendering and advanced 3d applications because of cpu constraints but such specific stuff is done by professionals on real workstations with dedicated rendering graphic cards.
To sum it up your options are:
Windows based:
Razer Blade (personally I don't like the design and font layout the r looks gimmicky)
Dell XPS 15 (would be my choice if their customer service would be top notch)
Surfacebook 2 (you would have to wait and I wouldn't recommend buying the first edition because it's still full of bugs and that's unacceptable at such a pricerange).
Macs:
rMBP 15 Inch fully specced...but I highly doubt Apple would be crazy enough to raise the prices of the 2016 rMBP 15 inch even further so the worst thing that can happen if you wait is a reduced price for the "old" version. Also I'm not a fan of the rumored OLED bar
First Click: Apple should stop selling four-year-old computers
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/4/12373776/2012-macbook-pro-still-alive-not-dead-why
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/4/12373776/2012-macbook-pro-still-alive-not-dead-why
The cMBP has its purpose. Since Samsung came out with very reasonably priced 4TB SSDs, it's the only portable Mac that can give you 8 (freaking) TB internal storage if one is inclined.
And now we have video footage of the new iPhone 6SS on the home-page and still nothing new about the MBP If it's coming out in September, this isn't looking good...
If it's coming out in September, this isn't looking good...So? None of those use the CPU Apple uses? I'm sick and tired of people that think Skylake is Skylake. You read it on the internet somewhere that Skylake is the latest CPU, you dont care if its a 15W ULV or a Core m3, as long as its from the Skylake generation. Apple only uses the top notch H class 45W CPU with Intel HD 580 (which the igpu is called this generation) and none other than the SkullCanyon is shipping yet. So the CPUs might still be a problem to get shipping in large quantities.
Apple isn't selling four year old computers. The current rMBP 15 have been improved where advancements in technology has occured, in dGPU and especially SSD. I feel stupid for returning my rMBP 15 last October/November, since it's the most powerful tool provided by Apple for the last 400 days. CPUs from Intel haven't really offered anything new since Haswell, except for the low power offerings you find in the new MacBook, and bumping specifications for the sake of new names instead of actual performance is backward thinking. With pixels so small, performance so good and form factor so defined, I can't see a real need for an upgrade except by making it thinner and lighter along with better battery life.
If you want power and screen estate, buy a desktop.
If you want power and screen estate, buy a desktop.
The four-year-old computer in question is the non-retina MacBook Pro 13". Running an HDD, 4GB RAM and a 3rd generation i5 processor. Literally has not had a change made to it in 4 years since release in 2012. In the UK the price is only £100 cheaper than the base 13" Retina MBP.
And that's perfectly fine. I actually think that device does have a place in the Mac line-up. However, I don't think it has a place at that price. Even if they just gave it 8GB RAM and dropped the price £100 I think that would be more reasonable. But having used a friends 2012 MBP recently with stock 4GB RAM I can honestly say it's a terrible experience. If you didn't know about Apple's product line in detail and spent £900 on a computer, you wouldn't want it to lag when opening iTunes, mail, Pages and more than 3 tabs in Safari.
Regarding the non retina macbook. Most people i know don't understand that apple computers are different on the inside. They're looking the same arent they, silvery macbooks.
The ads when people sell them reflect this too: Macbook from 2013, works fine [no specs whatsoever mentioned].
Apple knows this.
Makes me triggered.
The ads when people sell them reflect this too: Macbook from 2013, works fine [no specs whatsoever mentioned].
Apple knows this.
Makes me triggered.
Like I keep saying: If they would give the non-retina MBP an i5-6267U w/ Iris 550, 8GB of RAM, IPS display, and a 128GB or 256GB SATA SSD as standard they would have a winner. It would really make the cMBP a nice option in the MacBook line.
I don't think you're wrong, but I can also see how it makes sense to release them together.
1) It would be a stretch to only talk about the new iPhone feature for an entire keynote. They could do it for sure, but it would be a boring stretch...
2) Apple's direction is clearly to move away from "computers" and go towards iPad Pros. They'd be contradicting themselves to dedicate an entire event to say "we don't think you need a computer but WOW, look at how great these new computers are!"
3) They have brand new versions of iOS and macOS to release...looks like they're trying to integrate both to work together. What better way to show how they work together than to show them off at the same time, running them both on brand new hardware platforms (e.g. showing how the new iPhone can unlock your new Macbook Pro, on stage)?
We'll see what happens, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they talked about both in one keynote.
Seems to me it's better to delay a sale rather than risk losing a customer entirely, but what do I know.
If you're going to be watching a lot of video content and keeping this thing for 3-4 years I would strongly advise you to take the extra $300 hit (if you can) and buy the lowest end retina MacBook Pro.
The MacBook Air's screen isn't even 1080p so you won't even be able to watch that content natively. The retina's screen is like butter. Also, the Air is going to struggle with 60fps video on youtube and other sites (this means stutter during playback).
Go to an apple store and watch a video/movie (1080p or higher) on the Air. Then watch the same video/movie on the Pro. See the difference in quality.
And if you can sell the Beats for $200 like you said then it will only be $100 more than the regular price of a 13 inch Air.
Idk, if I could pay a few extra hundred for a better overall experience (especially the screen) spanning a 3-4 year time frame, I'd absolutely do it. Just my opinion.
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Uh, Skylake is Skylake. Apple, like other companies, uses different variants of chips all across their product lines. Please show me where Apple is using the 45W CPU with the HD 580 so I can buy one.
It's the answer this thread deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll wait for it. Because we can take it.
It boggles my mind they are actually still selling computers with 128 gb internal storage at this price point. You can buy a samsung evo 850 256gb ssd for like $80
Yes, it is. The article is referring to non-retina MBP.
No, they haven't.
Well, every new generation of Intel processors brings iterative improvements, they are not groundbreaking but they are improvements.
Haswell processors which are to be found in the present MBP are now 2 generations old. There was Broadwell right after Haswell and now it's Skylake. And yes, there are high perfoming chips available, such as i7 6820HQ or even i7 6700HQ which can be found in today's laptops made by other OEMs.
Or you can take a look at previously mentioned XPS 15, Razer Blade or ZenBook Pro. All of them look awesome, have 4k displays, newest processors, 512gb ssd, pretty good discrete GPU and cost the same or less than the entry level MBP 15.
I really really really hope you're right. That would be the best case scenario at this point. And it makes complete sense.
At the same time, we've had two events this year without MBPs, the pessimistic side of me says "what's one more?"
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