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It's going to be tough... but I'm going to try and restrain from pre-ordering/purchasing on day 1. I definitely want to visit the Apple store a couple of times and wait for some reviews to come out. Hopefully there's ample supply and I can pick one up a couple of weeks later.
 
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It's going to be tough... but I'm going to try and restrain from pre-ordering/purchasing on day 1. I definitely want to visit the Apple store a couple of times and wait for some reviews to come out. Hopefully there's ample supply and I can pick one up a couple of weeks later.
I'm all in on day 1. It's either that or switch to Windows, and that's not going to happen.
 
Yep, probably Polaris 10 mobile will be RX 490M, but from what I've read so far (still not so much, honestly), I won't bet on it...
More probably, the RX 480M will be the 15" GPU, even if I still have doubts about its TDP :confused:

It'll be a RX 480M. That Polaris 11 GPU — and only that one — is codenamed "Baffin" and that name is also explicitly mentioned in the drivers in Sierra.
 
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It'll be a RX 480M. That Polaris 11 GPU — and only that one — is codenamed "Baffin" and that name is also explicitly mentioned in the drivers in Sierra.

Wow, didn't know this. Thanks!
I was worried Apple could go with the RX 460M, which is slightly worse than the 480M, but this fact about drivers codenames give me hope again.
:)
 
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It'll be a RX 480M. That Polaris 11 GPU — and only that one — is codenamed "Baffin" and that name is also explicitly mentioned in the drivers in Sierra.

Polaris 11 is RX 480M ? Are you sure about that ? Have a look here: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-470-460-official-performance/ and on the bottom. It does say Polaris 11 = AMD Radeon RX 460.
 
Go back and read Serban's posts. He never said anything concrete that hadn't already been reported elsewhere. And even then he couched things, saying he'd seen three versions and didn't know which was going to be released. He was no more "right" than you and me.

He was a an out and out bluffer. He never mentioned any of the features until they had been reported elsewhere, after Ming Chi Quo reported the OLED function keys he suddenly became an expert on them. He even tried to say that Mark Gurman was using his information :D
 
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Wow, didn't know this. Thanks!
I was worried Apple could go with the RX 460M, which is slightly worse than the 480M, but this fact about drivers codenames give me hope again.
:)

Here is the source in case you're interested

http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,11578.0.html

In a nutshell he had to change the device ID inside one of the official Apple kext drivers to (wrongly) detect his desktop RX 480 as a "Baffin" GPU and then it (sort of) worked out of the box with Sierra DP2.

Baffin is Polaris 11, Ellesmere is Polaris 10.
The main difference is memory bus width (11 = 128bit, 10 = 256 bit).
My understanding is that 11 will be used for mobile and low end desktop cards, 10 for desktop or perhaps "desktop replacement" (i.e. large gaming laptops or iMacs) only.

For details read the last paragraph of this:
http://videocardz.com/58634/amd-confirms-polaris-10-is-ellesmere-and-polaris-11-is-baffin

A hypothetical RX 460M would also be called "Baffin" but since the RX 480M will be well within the power envelope of a redesigned, slimmer 15" rMBP (35W TDP) I doubt they'll use anything but that. As far as I know the old GTX 650/750m had 50W TDP.
 
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They did say they were upgrading the GPU for professional users and gamers.. so the RX 480M (Polaris 11) GPU chip is very likely. It will be a YUUUUUUGE upgrade.
 
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They did say they were upgrading the GPU for professional users and gamers.. so the RX 480M (Polaris 11) GPU chip is very likely. It will be a YUUUUUUGE upgrade.

I've been burned with AMD before (bad video cards, performance not as advertised, etc) and I don't trust the performance of their laptop processors.
 
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I've been burned with AMD before (bad video cards, performance not as advertised, etc) and I don't trust the performance of their laptop processors.
Dude. They are totally delaying the MBP because they are putting AMD Zen CPU's in it instead of Intel :p
 
I'm convinced that all this talk about "gamers" is about VR. That comment from Oculus "We'll put Oculus on the Mac when Apple releases a good computer" must have stung a lot. At this point I won't be surprised if Oculus is invited on stage to demo a new partnership.
 
If the new high end graphic card is polaris RX 480M. Will the mac be able to run Oculus Rift? And how good? I know oclus hasnt made the app, but still. If they did. how would the new macbook pro do?
 
I'm convinced that all this talk about "gamers" is about VR. That comment from Oculus "We'll put Oculus on the Mac when Apple releases a good computer" must have stung a lot. At this point I won't be surprised if Oculus is invited on stage to demo a new partnership.

Palmer Luckey made those comments in February or March this year, i'd imagine the spec to the new MBP would've been decided by then.

If the new high end graphic card is polaris RX 480M. Will the mac be able to run Oculus Rift? And how good? I know oclus hasnt made the app, but still. If they did. how would the new macbook pro do?

Probably not. They would have to include a HDMI port to support Oculus which seems unlikely especially if the leaked chasis was real.
 
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