If they change the screen size, I bet the CPU differential will be the same dual core for the 14" (or the smaller model) and quad core for the 16" (or bigger model).
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If they change the screen size, I bet the CPU differential will be the same dual core for the 14" (or the smaller model) and quad core for the 16" (or bigger model).
Folks,
I'm starting to think that Apple's going solidly toward a 3-product matrix across all product lines:
Desktops:
Mac mini, iMac, Mac Pro
Notebooks:
MacBook, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro
Tablets:
iPad mini, iPad Air, iPad Pro
Phones:
4-inch model (coming soon), iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus
Watches:
They may do this here, too.
So I'm expecting the differentiator between the MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro to be chipsets. The 12-inch MacBook will utilize the Skylake m3 processor, the 13- or 14-inch MacBook Air will gain retina along with new keyboard and trackpad and use the Core i5/i7 ultra low voltage model, and finally the MacBook Pro will use the Skylake quad-core i7s. Now they'll all have Thunderbolt 3/USB C ports.
As you'll note with the desktop, each type of desktop uses a different chipset (Mac mini with dual-Core i5 processors found in 13-inch MacBook Pros, iMac with desktop quad-core i5s, Mac Pros with Xeons). And starting with the iPads, they're differentiating size by processor (A8 for the mini, A8X for the Air, A9X for the Pro).
The extent of any re-design could range from minor to major. The MacBook Air has the most to gain in the re-design department. When Apple added Thunderbolt to the MacBook Pro they didn't re-design the computer. However, with Apple's new battery terracing design, and the new butterfly keyboard and force touch trackpad, they will probably re-design the computer to accommodate the MacBook's new wider, larger trackpad style. They probably didn't do it with the last revisions because of the logic board and battery designs that were already in place.
I'm wondering if Apple will ditch the 13-inch MacBook Pro with optical next go around, and surprisingly, also kill off the 13-inch MacBook Pro with retina. My rationale for this is the difference between a 13- or 14-inch retina style MacBook Air will be blurred compared to a 13-inch MacBook Pro. The only way I think Apple keeps the 13-inch MacBook Pro with retina around is if it adds quad core processors to it.
I'm thinking Apple's aiming for clean, concise product lines and 2016 and Skylake will finally let them accomplish that.
I'm starting to think that Apple's going solidly toward a 3-product matrix across all product lines:
Desktops:
Mac mini, iMac, Mac Pro
Notebooks:
MacBook, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro
Tablets:
iPad mini, iPad Air, iPad Pro
Phones:
4-inch model (coming soon), iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus
Watches:
They may do this here, too.
So I'm expecting the differentiator between the MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro to be chipsets. The 12-inch MacBook will utilize the Skylake m3 processor, the 13- or 14-inch MacBook Air will gain retina along with new keyboard and trackpad and use the Core i5/i7 ultra low voltage model, and finally the MacBook Pro will use the Skylake quad-core i7s. Now they'll all have Thunderbolt 3/USB C ports.
As you'll note with the desktop, each type of desktop uses a different chipset (Mac mini with dual-Core i5 processors found in 13-inch MacBook Pros, iMac with desktop quad-core i5s, Mac Pros with Xeons). And starting with the iPads, they're differentiating size by processor (A8 for the mini, A8X for the Air, A9X for the Pro).
The extent of any re-design could range from minor to major. The MacBook Air has the most to gain in the re-design department. When Apple added Thunderbolt to the MacBook Pro they didn't re-design the computer. However, with Apple's new battery terracing design, and the new butterfly keyboard and force touch trackpad, they will probably re-design the computer to accommodate the MacBook's new wider, larger trackpad style. They probably didn't do it with the last revisions because of the logic board and battery designs that were already in place.
I'm wondering if Apple will ditch the 13-inch MacBook Pro with optical next go around, and surprisingly, also kill off the 13-inch MacBook Pro with retina. My rationale for this is the difference between a 13- or 14-inch retina style MacBook Air will be blurred compared to a 13-inch MacBook Pro. The only way I think Apple keeps the 13-inch MacBook Pro with retina around is if it adds quad core processors to it.
I'm thinking Apple's aiming for clean, concise product lines and 2016 and Skylake will finally let them accomplish that.
I think you're right, though I believe they will go with 14" and 16" for the MBP.
Regarding the watches they kinda already have a 3 tier model program: Sport, Watch and Edition. Although a more visual based design. I do however believe that they will continue to differentiate these three models for their each purposes.
Ok ,thanks,i'm just waiting to see what will be with Air and Pro , i mean, a quad core for 13 ,a retina screen for Airs and the Thunderbolt 3,i think we won't see Tb3 on Air but the retina screen could ,isn'it?..,then the 13 Pro could gain a quad to differentiate ( i know they're already different beasts but..) and finally the thunderbolt 3 landing on the highend's pro..or maybe the less powerful Tb3 for Airs too.I'm almost sure i'ill have to wait somewhere in 2016 to see them knocking my wallet (WWDC?) .
Or 12 Macbook, 14 Air and a single pro line at 16?I'm really curious about what will be with the Air.
I think the Air will go a away. It pioneerd the modern Apple laptop design and now that its predecessor is here - the (retina) MacBook - it will phase out.
I see no good reason for it to stay, the rMB is even smaller and lighter, while the rMBP is almost the same size and weight. There is a space between the current rMBP and rMB. The question is if there is a whole other line of laptops needed to fill it. For the iPad the differentiation would be very easy even without the name. For the laptops it is not even with the names.
I see no good reason for it to stay, the rMB is even smaller and lighter, while the rMBP is almost the same size and weight. There is a space between the current rMBP and rMB. The question is if there is a whole other line of laptops needed to fill it. For the iPad the differentiation would be very easy even without the name. For the laptops it is not even with the names.
I see what you mean..basically the 13 Pro is going to take the Air's place .Could be.I only hope a quad core within it .This with a "macbook" redesign for all ( and Usbc-Tb3 ) .We can just only wait and see ; ) .
Not necessarily. Could also be they introduce a larger rMB, maybe this one with two USB 3 ports ;-)
You could argue they might as well call this one Air again… but whatever.
Like I said I'm thinking the 14-inch laptop will be an Air, not a Pro. It will utilize the ultra low voltage Core i5 (optional Core i7 ULV). I think the Air will become the mid-range of Apple's product lines (iPads/MacBooks).
Too many and too close,perhaps Macbook 12" ,Air 14" and Pro 16 or Air will fade away leaving just Macbook 12 and Macbook Pro 14 -16
I'm really leaning towards a discontinuation of MBA, why even have it? Pros still need 13/14 inch for on-the-go but no one needs an MBA with MB, especially if we see a Skylake spec after new years.
Second this. I see no reason for the MBA line to continue at all. If anything takes a similar place to it currently, it will be the next phase of the 13" rMBP, whether that be another 13" or a 14" screen. The 12" rMB will be the old MBA portability computer, the successor to the 13" rMBP will be the medium laptop with power, and the 15/16" rMBP will be the powerhouse.
Keep in mind the 13/14" could shrink both in bezel and overall size, bringing it down in thickness and weight a bit, and same with the 15/16"
But i still see Apple saving the Air label,don't ask me why...just a feeling, so Macbook 12" ,Air 14" (basically the 13" pro with dual still " ) and the Pro at 16 " .
I don't agree with your feeling haha. When the Air launched it was unique and deserved its name, now it's not so unique anymore. I think we'll see Macbook (consumer) and Macbook Pro (Pro obviously). I also think they'll move away from the Air moniker in the iPad line. Instead it will be iPad mini, iPad and iPad Pro.
Nothing, besides the fact that it lacks Retina. The problem is not that something's wrong with the Air, it's that the other offerings are so much better. Sure, the MB is a bit expensive but so was the MBA when it first came out.
I think there are some nuances left in the "Air" name as well, seeing as they have called the 5th gen the iPad Air and successively now, the iPad Pro in addition to that; which line up with the previous Mac names. However, I don't see the current MBA (from a hardware standput) continuing, so maybe they will introduce a new 14" laptop that is more powerful than the current MBA (and rMB) and will then discontinue the 13" rMBP; leaving only the 15" rMBP as the "Pro" label computer.*
Another point worth mentioning is that they dropped the Macbook Pro title stamped on the device itself with the rMBP. Maybe irrelevant...but maybe not.
*Basically what you said
Regardless of the price when it first came out, it'd be disappointing for Apple to eliminate new laptops at $900 and $1000 price points.
Could be
i just want a pro with the thunderbolt 3 and i will wait for it.- Status